Donald Trump team 'discussing plans for Muslim registration system'

[Hoof Hearted]

911 was a mistake...

The terrorists decoded the covert message from Bin Laden incorrectly..

Instead of "Fly planes dead into twin towers on 911", it actually read...

"Buy more plain bread, sugar twin and flour for the Seven Eleven"

(Thank you! I'm here all week! Try the fish!!)

 

[davesmom]

The integration of Muslim immigrants into Western society is a complex situation. It cannot be put in a nutshell and viewed as black and white.
Islam is unique from all other religious groups.


I don't believe there is any opposition to Muslim immigration from anyone IF those Muslims are moderate in their religious practices, if they are seeking way of life different from what they come from or if they are willing to embrace the laws and culture of their adopted country.


Opposition comes from recognition that Muslims coming from countries where Islam, with all of its regulations, male dominance, repression of basic freedoms, etc. is the law. There is a distinct possibility that what they have been raised with and have always known will remain their dogma and will conflict with Western law and culture. This has been seen to be the case in certain instances of so-called honor killings and terrorist acts. It has been seen in instances of Muslim individuals asking for (and too often getting) excused from rules that apply to other citizens.


In the interest of national security surely most people would agree that it is important for immigrants to embrace the laws of their adopted land. With that in mind common sense would dictate that extreme care should be taken to screen prospective immigrants, with special attention to their preferred lifestyle.


It is almost impossible to know whether a family's or individual's intention is to assimilate into its new society. There are many ways to 'dodge the bullet' during screening.
So what is the answer? How can the homeland protect its own interests and still be fair and welcoming?


Are newcomers to America entitled to the same rights as American citizens BEFORE they become legal citizens? I don't know. Perhaps if that is the case there should be a lengthy probation period for the immigrant(s) coming from a country where human rights are not recognized by law? Say a time limit to be looked at after a number of years regarding how well the immigrant(s) have settled in satisfactorily?


Thoughts?

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Not saying the Muslims are taking over our Country or nothin...

But at a Tim Horton's in Toronto recently, they just had a "Blow Up the Rim to Win" contest.

 

[PoliticalNick]

The integration of Muslim immigrants into Western society is a complex situation. It cannot be put in a nutshell and viewed as black and white.
Islam is unique from all other religious groups.


I don't believe there is any opposition to Muslim immigration from anyone IF those Muslims are moderate in their religious practices, if they are seeking way of life different from what they come from or if they are willing to embrace the laws and culture of their adopted country.


Opposition comes from recognition that Muslims coming from countries where Islam, with all of its regulations, male dominance, repression of basic freedoms, etc. is the law. There is a distinct possibility that what they have been raised with and have always known will remain their dogma and will conflict with Western law and culture. This has been seen to be the case in certain instances of so-called honor killings and terrorist acts. It has been seen in instances of Muslim individuals asking for (and too often getting) excused from rules that apply to other citizens.


In the interest of national security surely most people would agree that it is important for immigrants to embrace the laws of their adopted land. With that in mind common sense would dictate that extreme care should be taken to screen prospective immigrants, with special attention to their preferred lifestyle.


It is almost impossible to know whether a family's or individual's intention is to assimilate into its new society. There are many ways to 'dodge the bullet' during screening.
So what is the answer? How can the homeland protect its own interests and still be fair and welcoming?


Are newcomers to America entitled to the same rights as American citizens BEFORE they become legal citizens? I don't know. Perhaps if that is the case there should be a lengthy probation period for the immigrant(s) coming from a country where human rights are not recognized by law? Say a time limit to be looked at after a number of years regarding how well the immigrant(s) have settled in satisfactorily?


Thoughts?

Not sure about the US but Canada requires 'Landed Immigrant' status for 5 years before you are eligible for citizenship.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Is it too late to register the Caflicks? Everybody knows they ain't like us and take their orders from Rome.

 

[MHz]

I would suggest tattooing them with the registration number.

How last century is that?? How about choice based on multiple choice where OBL Inc is at the top of the list. Move them away from populated areas.

 

[selfsame]

The existence of Muslims among the Americans may be like a safety valve: so that God's chastisement may not afflict America.

I read this in the interpretation and was reminded of an incident which I may tell you later on.

Quran 56: 75-76, which mean:
[Then God – be glorified – started to threaten the associaters and disbelievers with a chastisement that will occur in the end of time (and this is its time), so God – be glorified – swore and said:]

{75. But, no! I swear by the falling [sites] of comets [in the future.]

76. And it is surely an awesome a oath, did you but know [that.]}
...............................................................................

76 a Because of its impact and because people will be concerned about it, according to the destruction, ruining and perishing that it will cause.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/56.htm#a56_75
quran-ayat(dot)com/pret/56(dot)htm#a56_75

 

[MHz]

It might be noble if the reason for the flight is to cover the escape of the (hired guns) rebel leaders. There have been Syrian refugees for 5 years so why the big push when they are actually taking the country back to it being peaceful again? That means it should come with a 'right to return' option that doesn't require a major crime be committed.

The screening process is supposed to take 2 years so there should be no way somebody could be an undocumented one unless it is by intention of the host nation. Germany seems to have been up to her neck in it if her refugees are as bad as the press makes out.

Hitler was not an exaggeration, folks.

Neither was Saddam but he still had a moment where he knew he had been stabbed in the back. The Banksters for Hitler and the US for Saddam. The only difference is the CIA got a bunch of Nazi SS officers as their field operatives.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Hey selfsame...

No offense, but your Prophet wrote all of that nonsense during a time of War and strife..

It's like he was trying to pen Huckleberry Finn, but his wife kept vacuuming and demanding he do the dishes during the last minute of a tied Super Bowl game.

Naturally his well-intentioned shpiel became angry and hateful.

Just be thankful that your Canadian freedom allows you to post your drivel on this website.

 

[davesmom]

Not sure about the US but Canada requires 'Landed Immigrant' status for 5 years before you are eligible for citizenship.

Thank you for your reply.


I would like some research on this. It seems to me that Immigrants get the same rights as legal citizens as soon as they land on Canadian soil. Whether they are legally entitled or not I just don't know.
There are other discrepancies too that need refining.
Will look into that when (if) I get time.


I thought that I presented some valid concern about Muslim immigrants in my post and some pressing questions. It doesn't seem like there are many poster here who want to be serious about the issue. Just want to and smartass about it! Very brainy!

 

[selfsame]

The existence of believers (concealing their belief and keeping it secret) in Mecca, after God’s messenger emigrated from it to Medina city ... so the presence of such believers (some of them were old men and women and others who could not emigrate together with Prophet Mohammed... so the presence of such believers prevented the punishment from coming on Mecca in the absence of the messenger.

Quran 48: 25, which means:
{Had these [believers among the Meccans] gradually departed n [from Mecca], then We would have chastised those who disbelieve among the [people of Mecca] with a painful chastisement.}
...............................................................................

25 n Their departing from Mecca should be gradual and in different directions and different dates, lest the people of Mecca might know about them and pursue after them so as to return them back to it with beating and hurting.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/48.htm#a48_25
quran-ayat(dot)com/pret/48(dot)htm#a48_25

 

[Murphy]

You ruin every thread you are a part of. You do not even address the subject. That is because you are a pox upon the earth. Your lying goes unchecked.

 

[selfsame]

Here I remember an incident in the time of the First Zionist: Busch the father (The Second Zionist was Busch the Junior);
When Busch the father came to attack Iraq, Abu abd-Allah said that he might have prayed for the termination of the host of disbelievers, had there been among them Muslims: Egypt and the other Muslim countries participating with Busch.

And he wrote a letter in Arabic, which I translated into English.

It included some of such words: The Apostle of the Christ threatens America with falling of comets out of the sky, unless they become just in dealing with the Arab and Palestinians.
That is because USA is biased to Zionists and is against the Arab and Palestinians.

That was to happen 40 days after the publication of such warning in the newspapers.
So we took the warning letter to the local newspapers, but they did not publish it.

It included the warning of the falling of comets from the sky on America in addition to other ways of God's punishment, with pointing out to the aya just mentioned in the previous post #27, which is in the Quran 56: 75-76.

You ruin every thread you are a part of. You do not even address the subject. That is because you are a pox upon the earth. Your lying goes unchecked.

I am so happy and glad to ruin all your evil.
And this is for you, ugly Zionist :violent1:

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Thank you for your reply.


I would like some research on this. It seems to me that Immigrants get the same rights as legal citizens as soon as they land on Canadian soil. Whether they are legally entitled or not I just don't know.
There are other discrepancies too that need refining.
Will look into that when (if) I get time.


I thought that I presented some valid concern about Muslim immigrants in my post and some pressing questions. It doesn't seem like there are many poster here who want to be serious about the issue. Just want to and smartass about it! Very brainy!

Can't speak for nobody else, but I don't often pass the time of day conversing with fenceposts.

 

[Murphy]

Thank you selfsame, for once again for demonstrating your evil and ignorance.

 

[MHz]

Can't speak for nobody else, but I don't often pass the time of day conversing with fenceposts.

Especially the ones with a sharp top end.

Thank you selfsame, for once again for demonstrating your evil and ignorance.

New World Order sign for 'speaking with forked-tongue??

Lot's daughters after the fire??

 

[selfsame]

Abu abd-Allah gave testimony:

>> Testimony of Mohammed that he is truthful.
>> Testimony of Jesus that he is the son of man, not the son of God.
>> Testimony of Lot and that he did not commit adultery with his daughters
The Conflict between the Torah and the Quran

>> Testimony of Abraham that he did not give his wife to Pharaoh and did not say she was his sister.
>> Testimony of Solomon that he did not marry one thousand women as wives and concubins.
>> Testimony of Prophet Aaron that he did not make the calf statue, but it was the Samaritan who made it.

 

[Murphy]

Quran (3:54) "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them), and Allah is the best of schemers."

The Arabic word used for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.

Sahih Bukhari (49:857) "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Sahih Bukhari (84:64-65) Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy."
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selfsame, you are a liar. You demonstrate the precise reason why Muslims need to be screened. President Elect Trump is being careful and protective.

 

[DaSleeper]

The Camel humper trolling a Floosie thread....
Couldn't happen to a better guy...ROFLMAO

 

[Mowich]