Do you want Alberta to increase spending on health research?

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Shale oil is all over the world and its market share is expected to keep climbing. You can find support for this claim anywhere on the internet.


Electric vehicles, solar energy, wind energy, etc. are also expected to increase in market share.


Face it; oil days are ending.





If half of a whole decreases, then the whole decreases too. But that's not what I want to discuss.


We have the opportunity to move on from a resourced-based economy to a service and knowledge based economy. Many countries now can get shale oil and can manufacture anything for costs that we won't get ahead with.


We need to move onto more advanced services and technologies such as medicine because not any country can.
Looking at all the traffic every morning , and it is easy to see cars are not going anywhere soon .
 

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Cuz ya can't git on down the road with a tank fulla health research.



We can use the oil we have, but we can shift our focus from trading oil to trading health research products and services.


We get one benefit with exporting oil, money. With health research we get two benefits, money and better medicine.
 

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We can use the oil we have, but we can shift our focus from trading oil to trading health research products and services.


We get one benefit with exporting oil, money. With health research we get two benefits, money and better medicine.
Or we can export oil to pay for the better medical research. Let's put the horse before the cart m'kay.
 

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Or we can export oil to pay for the better medical research. Let's put the horse before the cart m'kay.
No doubt oil is a major reason why we have much of what exists today directly and indirectly supporting health research. But if we want to put ourselves apart from the others in a way that most countries can't, then innovation naturally a good place to start.


When I think about the most valuable industries, the ones that help us live longer and healthier have no match. People have more crap than they know what to do with. We are practically a post-scarcity society. But we don't have better treatments than what exists today.


And don't think health research isn't economically beneficial. Here's a quote about what it did for the U.S., from an assessment report done by the Canadian Academy of Health Services ( http://www.cahs-acss.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ROI_FullReport.pdf ),


"Cutler and Kadiyala (1999) suggested that at least one-third , and perhaps as much as onehalf, of the gains in quality of life and life expectancy since 1970 in the U.S.A. could be attributed to health research. Shiel and Di Ruggerio then noted that, based on the models and assumptions of the values of life and attribution used, the conclusion that health research paid huge dividends was reached. They summarized the key finding that 'if onethird of the improvement ($1.5 trillion per year) was due to health research, then the social value of this improvement in health ($500 billion per year) would cover the costs of research 20 times over." .
 

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Others can't innovate?



No, many either can't or won't. It takes decades for universities and corporations to establish success in science. But we have a head start. Here's just an idea of where we were at from 2005 to 2009, Forbes Welcome .


Many countries can't afford or don't have the opportunity to invest into innovation because of the time lag of success, the amount of money required to have many "moonshots" to spread the risk and millions of other internal factors. Dubai has good weather which may have helped them to chose to spend their money on tourism. Canada doesn't really have a plan "after oil"; this could at least be part of the plan.

The point is that we have the opportunity, and I am ready to go door to door if I have to.
 

MHz

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Why not let you cash in leaving your body to science option? Enough to support your 'bad habits' until you opt out on the pill or nature takes you., . . . . . where do I sign up and where is the bad habit list where I can develop one if I don't already have enough?

Canada doesn't really have a plan "after oil"; this could at least be part of the plan.
We have apparently decided to sit this one out so we will go back to where there were more cattle and combines than people. Create a false boom somewhere else and that will remove the people as that is what brought them here. Canada now has enough NG to last to 2120 so it wasn't all bad.

There is about to be good money in old rubbish as soon as somebody designs some robots to mine the old sites and spit out sorted and useful items. The old sites were usually turned into public soccer or baseball fields.
 

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Why would you choose oil over health research? Oil prices are falling due to emerging energy markets and environmental concerns. Meanwhile cancers, heart diseases, Alzheimer's, etc are still a major problem and thus money maker.



Many students don't get to do research because of the limited funding and facilities, so that's where the provincial spending comes in.

And most health research is happening in Ontario and B.C.

That is why it is pointless to start in Alberta. All you wind up doing is diluting the money. Good students can go to where the best research is happening and everyone i way ahead of any cashless startup.

I see you're an ideologue. This should be fun

An ideologue that can't wait to spend bundles of OPM.

No, many either can't or won't. It takes decades for universities and corporations to establish success in science. But we have a head start. Here's just an idea of where we were at from 2005 to 2009, Forbes Welcome .


Many countries can't afford or don't have the opportunity to invest into innovation because of the time lag of success, the amount of money required to have many "moonshots" to spread the risk and millions of other internal factors. Dubai has good weather which may have helped them to chose to spend their money on tourism. Canada doesn't really have a plan "after oil"; this could at least be part of the plan.

The point is that we have the opportunity, and I am ready to go door to door if I have to.

You should just move to a province that has a heavy investment in health research already if that is what interests you. Due to dipper mismanagement Alberta is not in a position to reinvent the wheel.

What are you going to service with knowledge of what?

Those are buzz words for people that really don't have a clue.