2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

mentalfloss

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You guys still can't defend the indefensible unfortunately.

He's already admitted to sexual assault multiple times.


Also, this new email reveal made Hillary look like the victim and Trump took the bait.
 
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Locutus

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toasty toast. Lol.

Carlos Danger may have opened Pandora’s Box for Huma and Hillary


The criminal investigation underway over Anthony Weiner’s alleged child sex infraction has a couple of characteristics that make it especially awkward for Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin, the estranged wife of Weiner and close companion of Hillary.

Ed Timperlake points out to me that in an underage sex investigation, all electronic communications of the investigative target are pursued. This probably led to the grand jury that was announced 11 days ago issuing a subpoena for all of the devices in the possession of Weiner and his family, including Huma. As Lucianne Goldberg quipped, they even seize the Speak & Spell toys in these cases. This grand jury is in New York, possibly less poltiically supervised than the first Hillary email investigation.

Evidently, some of these devices were not turned over in the first investigation and contained “pertinent” emails. We do not know with certainty, but some reports indicate the pertinent emails may have been found on Weiner’s laptop. Recall that the initial investigation did not convene a grand jury and did not therefore have subpoena power. It is possible that Huma Abedin misled the FBI over the existence of pertinent emails on her then-husband’s computing devices.

So what could have been on the laptop Carlos Danger used for sexting?

A friend with a background in information technology consulting for affluent and powerful people emails:
…Clinton [was] using e-mails seemingly like most people use IMs or text messaging. Her holding onto Blackberries (and seven switching back to older models when the software was upgraded) [demonstrates this]. It might even explain at least SOME of the motivation for the e-mail server itself. I’ve seen plenty of cases where a powerful person says basically, “I want my e-mails on this thing” and, regardless of whether it’s a good solution, people respond, “ready-aye-ready.”

So, what could they have found on Weiner’s computers that would have caused such alarm?

I’d think one of two things:

1) Either that Huma signed in her e-mail account at one point and, presumably, it being Exchange or IMAP, dumped the whole account onto the computer and that account has plenty of e-mails between her and Clinton that were deleted.

Or -

2) There’s mention of Huma having a Yahoo account to which she would forward things for printing purposes. This struck me right away because, of course, printers are often difficult to configure as are e-mail accounts. It struck me as strange, yet very believable, that she mentioned that she’d forward stuff to that Yahoo account to print them. I mean, printing in theory should be platform agnostic, but - if you’re technically unsophisticated - you might have serious problems trying to setup an e-mail account or a printer on a device. Thus I imagine a scenario where she has a portable machine that either she can’t (or can’t be, for some reason) configured to use her home printer and a desktop machine (I imagine an slightly-older iMac here) that’s physically connected to the printer that serves as a shared “family computer” or whatever. She either can’t setup the e-mail account on that computer (perhaps it requires a VPN or something like that) or doesn’t want to, so she forwards everything that she wants to print to the Yahoo account that she does have setup on that computer. The FBI takes this computer as part of the Weiner investigation and, bam, they find thousands of e-mail messages - again, evidence of what was destroyed earlier.

Now, consider for a moment Anthony Weiner’s future. His wife dumped him, and he is of no use to the Clintons anymore. Penalties for online sex crimes tend to be severe, and child sex offenders are reported to do extremely unpleasant time in prison. Ed Timperlake thinks:
It has been said and also demonstrated by his actions that Anthony Weiner is a real self-centered narcissist. If he remains true to his character, there is a possibility that he will consider cutting a deal for a lesser sentence in return for evidence and testimony against Clinton Inc.

I bet he knows a lot.
Aside from his genitals, I don’t think Weiner has a reputation as a stand-up guy.


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mentalfloss

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Just to reiterate, every time you guys bring up emails or wikileaks, it turns out to be nothing and Trump continues to go down in the polls.

So why is this time any different?
 

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Just to reiterate, every time you guys bring up emails or wikileaks, it turns out to be nothing and Trump continues to go down in the polls.

So why is this time any different?
Why are all the polls tightening ?
 

coldstream

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British odds makers have shortened the odds on a Trump victory from 4 to 1, to, 7 to 2.. in order to even out the betting. But this is the same group that had the Brexit defeat at 2 to 9, and, Leicester 5000 to 1 to take the EPL title. They are having a bad run.
 

Remington1

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Concentration of wealth has to remain stable and on-going, so the top of the food chain is making sure that the candidates have the money needed to get there and remember who got them there. Doesn't matter who gets in, they're not there to make our lives better, they are there for the banks and corporations; will one of their goal be to bridge the humongous inequality gap we live in? NO. How can self-afflicted catastrophic failures such as the big banks starting in the 70's be given billions by the tax payers for bailout; when the average couple loosing their home asking for a few months grace were being declined!! We the people want more democracy, but the 1% want to keep their dominance. The 60's was the real last time that the poor (and I include the so called middle class in here), said no, we want more. Like King said, "Ask yourself, why are there so many poor people?, why is the distribution of wealth not done in a more fairer way"? The 60's brought a lot of fear at the top, they panicked, and we can read what their solution was; "The need to veer peoples head the other way, how? Convince them that they need.... they need fashion, better cars, better houses, assure they always want more than the neighbour, and it worked well. Television is still playing that game quite well. When any government knows that people are working for $14 / month, and working 70 hours a week, and are turning their heads, something is wrong. The banks for obvious reason wanted to kill unions, and they are almost there. They also redesigned our tax system, shifting taxing to the people, banks pressuring the politicians they'd funded!!. Reason given; corporation paying less tax will create jobs, really?? Money cares for money only. The next big crash is coming.. banks have people now calculating the gov. bailouts they might need! I never worked for a Union, but I can see the graphs, the lower the union registrars line goes the higher the inequalities line goes up. Read "Society in it's place" Walter Lippmann or watch Chomsky's latest documentary. "Someone gives orders, and someone takes them"