67% of Canadians favour screening newcomers for 'anti-Canadian values

Walter

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Don't worry.

The Walters and Locs of the world are facing their annihilation and the rest of us will get to dance on their graves.

This is just the final, bitter outcry before they are snuffed out forever.
Typical lefty wishing other people dead.
 

Machjo

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Libs already poo-pooing Leitch's immigration proposal cuz they know it's a winner.


What is bigoted about asking people if they come to Canada they will obey its laws and assimilate into Canadian society. You Libs are nuts.

She is not proposing that they just obey the law. She is proposing to test them on their beliefs concerning 'Canadian values.'

Since we're talking here about an official test, it would necessarily test official 'values.' So what are those official 'values.' The most obvious ones would be those of the constitution. To obey the constitution is one thing. To agree with it takes it a whole leap further into controllinb people's beliefs. Heck, even I don't agree with many parts of the constitution and so even I don't uphold official Canadian values. And now we're going to ask foreign nationals to be more Canadian than Canadians?

Even I would fail that test unless I was willing to lie.

Sucha test would not even meet the standards of its own constitutional values. I do agree with parts of the Constitution none-the-less including freedom of belief. To be required to not only obey the law but to also agree with the law would be the grossest violation of a person's freedom of belief.
 

Queb

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That's what I find sad. Most English Canadians support official bilingualism because they believe most French Canadians do.

Probably. But this legend is maintained by the elite of ROC and politicians. First of all. the Quebec's federalists need this to argue that french is considered as "desirable" all over federation and, second reason, is to give a kind of "proof" that the ROC make "effort" for french peoples and it's a justification for the huge privileges that anglophones have in Quebec. Privilege that is not effectively existing in ROC for francophones.
 

Locutus

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Typical lefty wishing other people dead.

he's mad because the young bright alt-right is on to his generations horsesh!t now and they're beginning to take action, shutting them down. his existence is tenuous.he thought he and his ilk were on to something but alas, temba, his eyes open.

anyway, it's lonely not being in the 67% of Canadians with common sense.

nervous and mad him is.
 

Machjo

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And I bet that 67% will be fighting among one another over what exactly those 'Canadian values' are. I bet many of them are thinking Quebec's values charter and how women are allowed to dress at citizenship ceremonies.
 

petros

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he's mad because the young bright alt-right is on to his generations horsesh!t now and they're beginning to take action, shutting them down. his existence is tenuous.he thought he and his ilk were on to something but alas, temba, his eyes open.

anyway, it's lonely not being in the 67% of Canadians with common sense.

nervous and mad him is.

He is Gen X.

And I bet that 67% will be fighting among one another over what exactly those 'Canadian values' are. I bet many of them are thinking Quebec's values charter and how women are allowed to dress at citizenship ceremonies.

Nah. It's the blue collar brown people that are getting tired of Arabs and susti lefties.

Hockey Night In Canada is aired in three languages. English, French and Punjabi.
 

DaSleeper

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Probably. But this legend is maintained by the elite of ROC and politicians. First of all. the Quebec's federalists need this to argue that french is considered as "desirable" all over federation and, second reason, is to give a kind of "proof" that the ROC make "effort" for french peoples and it's a justification for the huge privileges that anglophones have in Quebec. Privilege that is not effectively existing in ROC for francophones.
Why are so many Quebecers leaving the province?

More Quebecers moving to other provinces, report says | Montreal Gazette
 

JamesBondo

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She is not proposing that they just obey the law. She is proposing to test them on their beliefs concerning 'Canadian values.'

Since we're talking here about an official test, it would necessarily test official 'values.' So what are those official 'values.' The most obvious ones would be those of the constitution. To obey the constitution is one thing. To agree with it takes it a whole leap further into controllinb people's beliefs. Heck, even I don't agree with many parts of the constitution and so even I don't uphold official Canadian values. And now we're going to ask foreign nationals to be more Canadian than Canadians?

Even I would fail that test unless I was willing to lie.

Sucha test would not even meet the standards of its own constitutional values. I do agree with parts of the Constitution none-the-less including freedom of belief. To be required to not only obey the law but to also agree with the law would be the grossest violation of a person's freedom of belief.

Canadian values and Canadian law and Canadian constitution rights are not/may not/should not be identical.

educating imigrants on our laws seems more pragmatic than giving them a personality test if you know what I mean.
 

Machjo

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Canadian values and Canadian law and Canadian constitution rights are not/may not/should not be identical.

educating imigrants on our laws seems more pragmatic than giving them a personality test if you know what I mean.


I agree. I'm just saying that Leitch seems to want to take it leaps further towards imposing beliefs on people that even Canadians like myself might not believe.
 

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For all the horrific acts Catholics have unleashed on Canadians I hope this refusal can be retroactive.

She has made her 'values test' a central issue in her leadership campaign, and Evan asked a logical question about her politics of division and exclusion.

However, as we see, Leitch clearly lacks even the scintilla of integrity it would take to answer his question honestly.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...e-to-be-a-conservative-value/article31750423/

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vmUidBxr2Y
 

Queb

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Canadians are locked in their multicultural conception of relations with foreign cultures. They raised to the rank of untouchable dogma that Trudeauist policy.

Any questioning of this dogma is considered anti-Canadian and equated with racism. The discussion becomes impossible. This is not so much to find a better way for living together in society, but one that will find the way to crush the political enemy.

Immigration is a major challenge for all Western societies. Although there are obvious successes, it is clear that the current model causes problems. Close our eyes will not help anything.
 

tay

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Canadians are locked in their multicultural conception of relations with foreign cultures. They raised to the rank of untouchable dogma that Trudeauist policy.

Any questioning of this dogma is considered anti-Canadian and equated with racism. The discussion becomes impossible. This is not so much to find a better way for living together in society, but one that will find the way to crush the political enemy.

Immigration is a major challenge for all Western societies. Although there are obvious successes, it is clear that the current model causes problems. Close our eyes will not help anything.


I don't see the discussion becoming impossible. She has to specify what the 'screening' process will consist of so we can judge who would be eligible.

And the Trudeauist policy has seeped into strange quarters although on the bright side.....

Tony Clement and Kevin O’Leary have added their names to the list of high-profile Conservatives criticizing candidate Kellie Leitch’s plan to screen immigrants for anti-Canadian values.

O’Leary told The Canadian Press Monday that Leitch’s proposal is “totally un-Canadian.”

“I wouldn't be here if that kind of mandate existed," said the TV star and businessman, whose mother immigrated to Canada from Lebanon.

Former cabinet minister Peter MacKay says he wants to focus on his family | National Newswatch
 

mentalfloss

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For all the horrific acts Catholics have unleashed on Canadians I hope this refusal can be retroactive.

She has made her 'values test' a central issue in her leadership campaign, and Evan asked a logical question about her politics of division and exclusion.

However, as we see, Leitch clearly lacks even the scintilla of integrity it would take to answer his question honestly.


Kellie Leitch: Xenophobia doesn’t have to be a conservative value - The Globe and Mail

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vmUidBxr2Y

Leitch's platform:

 

Queb

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I don't see the discussion becoming impossible. She has to specify what the 'screening' process will consist of so we can judge who would be eligible.
You'll see. Multiculturalism is a religion. The battle has just begun. Followers of the religion will play on the subjectivity of words to end up by make believe that all the supporters of any new "avenue" are intolerant. They will not win on the merits but on the fear and propaganda.