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And God spoke all these words:
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
You shall have no other gods before me.
You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” (Exodus 20:1-17 NIV)
Shall we discuss how America has broken all of those commandments? Shall we discuss how most Christians have broken most of those commandments? Shall we discuss why your god is a psychopath? We, and that includes you, are all going to hell because not one of us is innocent, not one of us has lived by all of those commandments.
Cliffy Christianity teaches that no one can keep the law. Ya got ole Saul bringin back the legalism of Judaism.
Very astute observations, Cliffy. You have embraced the bad news. Now lay hold of the good news (gospel)!
Kind of hard to think something is good news when everything is based on guilt and fear.
The gospel of God's grace to us in Christ does not impart guilt or fear, LL.
"Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus ..." (Romans 8:1 NIV)
"For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline." (2 Timothy 1:7 NIV)
I could pull up some verses from the same person which contradict those that you posted but what's the point.
Seeing as how the Epistles of Saul pre date the gospels you have to wonder how much influence they had on the writers of those books beginning with the Gospel of Mark which is the oldest.No, the guilt, fear and threats are directed at those who do not accept this clap trap.
I would suggest that the point is to provide evidence that supports your beliefs concerning the authority and validity of the Bible, LL.
When I was a Christian I believed the bible was the authority. The final word. Now, I do not.
What made you a Christian? What caused you to cease being a Christian? What are you now?
Why did you believe the Bible? Why do you not believe the Bible? What do you believe now?
Sadly the Bible is full of contradictions.
If you want to get in a war about them then just say so.
The internet is a bottomless pit of the ridiculous hypocrisy and
double standards of "religion".
Yes there are numerous examples of cognitive dissonance.Sadly the Bible is full of contradictions.
If you want to get in a war about them then just say so.
The internet is a bottomless pit of the ridiculous hypocrisy and
double standards of "religion".
Really?? The only 'proof' is some obscure historical document that may or may not be accurate. I doubt modern Christians even have the authors right. They certainly don't when it comes to the Gospel of John. The other 3 would be written by Peter (Matthew) James for Mark and the later book bearing his name and his brother John wrote Luke.
The Disciples that came to take away Paul's blindness were gathered after the cross, the cross was the only thing that stood in the way of the Scribes writing the books as that was to be done with some assistance from the Holy Spirit.
What Peter talked about to the Gentiles after Acts:10 is the same message he would have talked to the Jews about during the 30 years it took for Luke:21:12-24 to be fulfilled. That is the same message Saul was delivering to the Gentiles in his visits.
I suppose the Luke:21:12-24 prophecy was written in hindsight as it was referencing 70AD in it's last verse. I think not. James starts out mentioning the scattering and that did not take place until 70AD so that book was not written before then and it references a prophecy from De:4:30. The point of the Gospels is they were written by Jewish people but the writing was in Greek, perfect Greek and that should not have been possible as the Jews never had any contact with any Gentiles until more than 3 1/2 years after the cross.
If you can mistake the concept of these verses then the rest of your doctrine will be even more flawed.
Joh:21:24:
This is the disciple which testifieth of these things,
and wrote these things:
and we know that his testimony is true.
1Jo:1:1-3:
That which was from the beginning,
which we have heard,
which we have seen with our eyes,
which we have looked upon,
and our hands have handled,
of the Word of life;
(For the life was manifested,
and we have seen it,
and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life,
which was with the Father,
and was manifested unto us
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you,
that ye also may have fellowship with us:
and truly our fellowship is with the Father,
and with his Son Jesus Christ.
If you don't want the book to be viewed as being 'divine' then you have to muddy such things. 3 Apostles see 3 events and today the 3 books that cover those events is attributed to anybody but those same 3 Apostles. That is equal to putting in overtime.