On the Brexit Front

Blackleaf

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Mair (born in Scotland, I think) attended mental health services and has been receiving psychotherapy and medication. According to the Huddersfield Daily Examiner, he attended Pathways Day Centre for adults with mental health problems in Mirfield, West Yorkshire. Staff there said he was kind and helpful and never discussed Europe or politics. It is being reported that he killed Mrs Cox because she didn't prevent the closing of one of the mental health problems he was enrolled on.

If this turns out to be true, I want all those guilty ones in the media and in politics and in the Remain camp to make televised apologies for their disgusting attempts at labelling Mair as an angry Brexiter and that all Brexiters are murderous thugs.

Thankfully, though, this attempt at a vile smear campaign by a bunch of Remainiac losers who are heading for defeat in the referendum won't wash with most British voters, who are far more sophisticated than the Remainiac losers would have us believe. I expect this stunt to not only not work but to backfire spectacularly on the Bremainiacs.

Oh, yes. To quote you, "It has been reported." If that verifies your claims, it verifies mine.

He didn't shout "Britain First." It's been refuted by eyewitnesses.

Even if he did, the man is mentally ill.
 

Machjo

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I think the Leave campaign has the right strategy: whine, whine, and whine some more.

That way, even if Britain votes to remain, the incessant whining of the leave campaign might motivate other EU states to beg the UK to recount the ballots and hold a second referendum in which the EU itself will join the Leave campaign just to put an end to the incessant whining.
 

HarperCons

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Yes Sonny, while you got your "true facts" from....(lemme guess)...Global Research?

Now listen Dumbass, I was a Marxist years before you were even a gleam in your Daddy's eye. I read the Communist Manifesto when I was 16, and adopted it wholesale. The only reason I wasn't throwing up barricades was because nobody else I knew was crazy enough to go along.

Then I got older, and my brain stem became fully attached.

Here's some advice:

Don't assume things when you know nothing about the person you are dealing with.

Move out of Mommy's basement and experience some reality.

(I assume you're a kid.....God forbid you are actually an adult)
Trash post. Give me substance to stomp, not fairy tales like you used to be a Marxist, as if at any point you ever had the intellectual capacity. And reading a sentence of the Communist Manifesto, does not make one a Marxist. The Communist Manifesto doesn't even concern the main Marxist ideals.
 

Machjo

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Trash post. Give me substance to stomp, not fairy tales like you used to be a Marxist, as if at any point you ever had the intellectual capacity. And reading a sentence of the Communist Manifesto, does not make one a Marxist. The Communist Manifesto doesn't even concern the main Marxist ideals.

I'd given you substance above which you ignored. How is socialism not one group just wanting another group to subsidize it?

I bet that if an ethnic poll were taken, supporters of the CBC would be overwhelmingly English and French. Again, socialism is just one group trying to get all others to subsidize it.
 

HarperCons

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I'd given you substance above which you ignored. How is socialism not one group just wanting another group to subsidize it?

I bet that if an ethnic poll were taken, supporters of the CBC would be overwhelmingly English and French. Again, socialism is just one group trying to get all others to subsidize it.
There are different factions of Socialism but the main thing is that workers control the means of production, otherwise it's not socialism. CBC has nothing to do with socialism, public funding has nothing to do with socialism.

and subsidization certainly doesn't have anything to do with socialism.
 

Machjo

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There are different factions of Socialism but the main thing is that workers control the means of production, otherwise it's not socialism. CBC has nothing to do with socialism, public funding has nothing to do with socialism.

and subsidization certainly doesn't have anything to do with socialism.

Okay, let's call the case of the CBC statism then.
 

Machjo

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That's a problem, you believe communism/socialism is tied with the state, and it isn't. Anarcho-communist societies such as Rojava show this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava

And how do workers' rights relate to consumers' rights?

As an example, let's say the Government allowed my taxes to go to Chinese media or a Chinese language schools, would that not hurt hurt teachers in English and French schools and journalists at the CBC/SRC? Would granting me more freedom as a consumer not hurt some workers?
 

Colpy

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Thugs get excited, they get violent. Usually against women and minorities. This is completely unsurprising from a Farage disciple.

Oh gimme a ****ing break.

There are different factions of Socialism but the main thing is that workers control the means of production, otherwise it's not socialism. CBC has nothing to do with socialism, public funding has nothing to do with socialism.

and subsidization certainly doesn't have anything to do with socialism.

The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples' money. Margaret Thatcher
 

HarperCons

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Oh gimme a ****ing break.



The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples' money. Margaret Thatcher
Margaret Thatcher was a garbage human being that stomped on workers rights.
 

Walter

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That was not to the benefit of consumers, it was to benefit her corporate pig buddies.
The economy of the UK was in the doldrums for decades till Maggie showed up and flipped the bird to the unions. God bless her soul.
 

HarperCons

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Walter shows the cancer capitalism causes in one's beliefs, when a worker actively rejects his own interests.
 

HarperCons

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socialism isn't about people being paid the same. it's about earning what you produce, without the surplus profits being pocketed by some unnecessary nitwit factory owner, or other useless higher ups. it's about being compensated fairly, it's about everyone being able to live without the anxieties of having to find a job for survival. it's about abolishing excessive unsustainable luxury among the few and annihilating arbitrary hierarchies.

CEOs are some of the most useless people alive, yet the most wealthy. **** capitalism and any apologists supporting it against your own interests, you need some class consciousness.