CONS Pressure Libs on Saudi Deal CONS Negotiated

tay

Hall of Fame Member
May 20, 2012
11,548
1
36
Gotta love it, Trudeau breaks yet another promise, and the only explanation left for the usual suspects is to blame Harper.

... Gonna be 4 years of disappointment and bitter tears for the leftie crowd

What promise is he breaking regarding this sale?

But I do find it amusing Clement is throwing Harper under the bus........

G&M Aug. 26 2015 : Harper assured details of Saudi arms deal would stay under wraps
"Ottawa is contractually obliged to keep secret the details of a controversial $15-billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia – a transaction that Stephen Harper personally assured the country’s monarch will be guaranteed by the Canadian government, documents say."
G&M Jan.11, 2016 : Tories press Liberal government to justify Saudi arms deal
"The Liberal government is facing increasing pressure to make public the most important deliberations on Canada’s $15-billion sale of combat vehicles to Saudi Arabia: precisely how the transaction is justified under this country’s strict weapons export control regime.
Mr. [Tony] Clement acknowledges that the Conservatives are asking for information they refused to release while in office under Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
But he says the new leadership of the Conservative Party feels differently."

Dear Tony;

Congratulations on "feeling differently". We eagerly look forward to the new management pressing for details of other secrets withheld by the former management.

Here's a partial list to get you started : Stephen Harper, Serial Abuser of Power



 

captain morgan

Hall of Fame Member
Mar 28, 2009
28,429
148
63
A Mouse Once Bit My Sister
Blaming Harper for Trudeau's misgivings is disingenuous at this point.... Breaking his promises this soon after taking office and blaming Harper is ridiculous considering that he hasn't had enough time to even try keeping his word on these things.
 

tay

Hall of Fame Member
May 20, 2012
11,548
1
36
Blaming Harper for Trudeau's misgivings is disingenuous at this point.... Breaking his promises this soon after taking office and blaming Harper is ridiculous considering that he hasn't had enough time to even try keeping his word on these things.
Please explain how this thread subject is blaming Harper and for what?
 

tay

Hall of Fame Member
May 20, 2012
11,548
1
36
A popular Liberal Party apologist suggests that the Trudeau government's decision to finalize the paperwork necessary to conclude the contract to deliver Canadian-made armoured fighting vehicles to Saudi Arabia is essential to help our Saudi allies fend off the evil designs of ISIS!

Nice, if it was remotely true. It's not. ISIS isn't Shiite Muslim. It's Sunni, an extremist fundamentalist variation of the Salafist/Wahhabist Sunni Islam cultivated by the Saudis themselves. It would be akin to infanticide for the Saudis to use their Canadian-made armoured fighting vehicles against their own hellspawn.

The Saudis do use vehicles like these for security, however. They do use them to suppress Shiite minority groups. They do use them to crush pro-democracy movements not just within Saudi Arabia but in the other Gulf States. There is, however, no record of Saudi Arabia deploying light armoured fighting vehicles in battle against ISIS.

What perplexes me most about this Liberal apologist's concerns for the security of Saudi Arabia arises out of his sexual orientation.

He's gay and proudly so. That's terrific - in Canada. In Saudi Arabia, as in most of the Gulf States, homosexuality is punishable by stoning. Gays get their heads pulped by rocks. Gays get stoned. ....

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...ancelled-armoured-vehicle-sale-to-saudis.html
 

Colpy

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 5, 2005
21,887
848
113
71
Saint John, N.B.
Shameless sleazebags........

Mr. Clement acknowledges that the Conservatives are asking for information they refused to release while in office under Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Tories press Liberal government to justify Saudi arms deal - The Globe and Mail




A popular Liberal Party apologist suggests that the Trudeau government's decision to finalize the paperwork necessary to conclude the contract to deliver Canadian-made armoured fighting vehicles to Saudi Arabia is essential to help our Saudi allies fend off the evil designs of ISIS!

Nice, if it was remotely true. It's not. ISIS isn't Shiite Muslim. It's Sunni, an extremist fundamentalist variation of the Salafist/Wahhabist Sunni Islam cultivated by the Saudis themselves. It would be akin to infanticide for the Saudis to use their Canadian-made armoured fighting vehicles against their own hellspawn.

The Saudis do use vehicles like these for security, however. They do use them to suppress Shiite minority groups. They do use them to crush pro-democracy movements not just within Saudi Arabia but in the other Gulf States. There is, however, no record of Saudi Arabia deploying light armoured fighting vehicles in battle against ISIS.

What perplexes me most about this Liberal apologist's concerns for the security of Saudi Arabia arises out of his sexual orientation.

He's gay and proudly so. That's terrific - in Canada. In Saudi Arabia, as in most of the Gulf States, homosexuality is punishable by stoning. Gays get their heads pulped by rocks. Gays get stoned. ....

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...ancelled-armoured-vehicle-sale-to-saudis.html

Absolutely correct on both counts.
 

tay

Hall of Fame Member
May 20, 2012
11,548
1
36
The Liberal government is facing harsh criticism over a closed-door meeting between the foreign affairs minister and the president of Saudi Arabia’s human rights commission -- a group that has signed off on executions in the Middle Eastern kingdom.

Journalists were not allowed to attend the meeting between Stephane Dion and Bandar Bin Mohammed Al-Aiban at Global Affairs headquarters in Ottawa, so little is known about the content of the discussions. However, Dion said he would pressure Saudi Arabia to release a blogger jailed over insults to Islam.

On Thursday, Conservative MP Peter Kent blasted the Liberals over the meeting.

“It's time for Canada to speak truth to the world's worst human rights abusers publicly -- not timidly, not in private,” Kent said.

Saudi Arabia often ranks among the worst countries in the world by human rights watchdogs. Independent watchdog Freedom House ranked the country dead last in 2016 for its positions on political rights and civil liberties.

The Saudi government executed 47 people in a single day in January – a decision that was approved by the country’s human rights commissioner. Torture, beheadings and floggings are widely reported, and women aren’t allowed to drive cars or swim in public pools, among other restrictions.

Prior to the meeting, Dion said he planned to ask Al-Aiban for Saudi Arabia to release blogger Raif Badawi, who was sentenced to 10 years in jail following a 2014 conviction for criticising Saudi clerics. Badawi is not Canadian, but his wife and three children live in Sherbrooke, Que.

“We ask for the King to show clemency for someone who only expressed his views,” Dion said Thursday.

Saudi Arabia won another term as head of the UN Human Rights Council earlier this year, giving it the power to block outside investigations into its own human rights abuses.

The Liberals have faced strong opposition over their decision to uphold a $15-billion sale of light-armoured vehicles to Saudi Arabia, which was brokered under the previous Conservative government.

“We're seeking to sign the arms export treaty and we're seeking to be bound by certain principles, which means you don't sell arms to countries engaged in a consistent pattern of human right violations,” said Irwin Cotler, founder of the Raoul Wallenberg Centre for Human Rights.

Dion's closed-door meeting with Saudi human rights chief rankles Conservatives | CTV News