Why didn’t Trudeau want to link the Fort Mac fire to climate change?

[JLM]

I sure hope you find the Kool-Aid tasty.

Does this have something to do with the state of my thirst?

Ski provided an excellent example of climate change in action... So again, how do you define and measure human induced climate change... Moreover, without having that definition and understanding, exactly what is the point of instituting all kinds of taxes to combat something that you can't even define?

Hell, in your province, there are a myriad of carbon/fuel and ecotaxes ~ do you really need more?... Have these taxes altered climate change for the better?

I would guess if you are being taxed for creating pollution you would curtail the pollution where and if possible.................I know I do! It can be something as simple as flicking the lights off when you leave the room for more than 10 minutes. Another little thing I try to do (doesn't always work) if I'm driving to town, I try to ensure I do everything I have to do in town that day so I'm only making one trip. The round trip is only two miles but that adds up to 730 miles a year...........@ 50 cents a mile that's over $350 a year just in cost savings let alone f**king up the environment.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I would guess if you are being taxed for creating pollution you would curtail the pollution where and if possible.................I know I do! It can be something as simple as flicking the lights off when you leave the room for more than 10 minutes. Another little thing I try to do (doesn't always work) if I'm driving to town, I try to ensure I do everything I have to do in town that day so I'm only making one trip. The round trip is only two miles but that adds up to 730 miles a year...........@ 50 cents a mile that's over $350 a year just in cost savings let alone f**king up the environment.

I don't think anybody deliberately wastes resources. Do you think adding a tax to it will change the amount you use? Has that been your driving factor? Since BC has all those carbon taxes, are you going to have a fire free season? Or perhaps 99.9% of the carbon coming from sources outside Canada may be a factor (if you believe that CO2 is a factor)?

 

[captain morgan]

I would guess if you are being taxed for creating pollution you would curtail the pollution where and if possible.................I know I do! It can be something as simple as flicking the lights off when you leave the room for more than 10 minutes. Another little thing I try to do (doesn't always work) if I'm driving to town, I try to ensure I do everything I have to do in town that day so I'm only making one trip. The round trip is only two miles but that adds up to 730 miles a year...........@ 50 cents a mile that's over $350 a year just in cost savings let alone f**king up the environment.

Pollution and climate change/global warming are not the same thing, although I fully expect the greentards to lay claim to that as the new culprit as everything else they have claimed is entirely unproveable

 

[JLM]

Pollution and climate change/global warming are not the same thing, although I fully expect the greentards to lay claim to that as the new culprit as everything else they have claimed is entirely unproveable

Right on.......................Pollution is just one factor of climate change.

 

[captain morgan]

Right on.......................Pollution is just one factor of climate change.

Ok, then which one do you want to talk about?

As far as this discussion is concerned, it is one or the other

 

[petros]

Hell, in your province, there are a myriad of carbon/fuel and ecotaxes ~ do you really need more?... Have these taxes altered climate change for the better?

The 1¢ eco fee on a can of beer has forced me to take in my cans or use the blue bin.

Prior to that I made the binners work for their $1.20 a week recycling for me by tearing open the bag and sorting it for me.

 

[mentalfloss]

B.C. premier says climate change is sparking need for national forest fire plan

OTTAWA – B.C. Premier Christy Clark says climate change is leading to more wildfires and the country needs a national forest firefighting strategy.

Clark tells The Canadian Press her province has a lot of experience in the labour-intensive job of clearing flammable debris on the forest floor, but that more intensive predictive work is needed at a national level to pinpoint where fires are likely to occur.

About 80 wildfires are currently burning in B.C., many of them east of the Rocky Mountains and essentially part of the same fire system that has consumed hundreds of thousands of hectares around Fort McMurray, Alta.

Clark says a national plan is needed to pool firefighting resources — work that is already underway.

But the premier says what’s really needed is a common national effort against climate change.

B.C. premier says climate change is sparking need for national forest fire plan | Vancouver Sun

 

[mentalfloss]

Naomi Klein says Alberta wildfires linked to climate change in Calgary address - Calgary - CBC News

 

[Locutus]

Lol...well naomi would know.

 

[mentalfloss]

She would.

She's an advocate for science and reason.

 

[captain morgan]

Naomi Klein says Alberta wildfires linked to climate change in Calgary address - Calgary - CBC News

Naomi Klein says... How cute.

Being a self-designated authority in everything, perhaps she has solutions for peace in the Middle East and child poverty as well.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Naomi Klein says... How cute.

Being a self-designated authority in everything, perhaps she has solutions for peace in the Middle East and child poverty as well.

Piece of cake. Nuke the Middle East. Give kids money.

 

[captain morgan]

Shush you!

Ms. Klein prefers to provide these nuggets of wisdom all on her own

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Shush you!

Ms. Klein prefers to provide these nuggets of wisdom all on her own

Oh, right, sorry. Wouldn't want to put the experts out of work.

 

[Jinentonix]

Naomi Klein says Alberta wildfires linked to climate change in Calgary address - Calgary - CBC News

Naomi Klein is a moron, and so are you. Wildfires are linked to one of two things; lightning or stupid humans with flammables. The forest didn't just spontaneously combust because of "global warming".
The problem also stems from the refusal to clean up dead fall because it's 'part of the ecosystem'. Well, guess what happens when you have a bunch of dead, dry timber laying around in a forest and there's a spark. Go ahead, take a guess.

 

[mentalfloss]

I don't believe anyone said it spontaneously started because of climate change.

Because, well... That would be a pretty stupid thing to say.

Perhaps you just don't understand the word 'link'.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Naomi Klein is a moron, and so are you. Wildfires are linked to one of two things; lightning or stupid humans with flammables. The forest didn't just spontaneously combust because of "global warming".
The problem also stems from the refusal to clean up dead fall because it's 'part of the ecosystem'. Well, guess what happens when you have a bunch of dead, dry timber laying around in a forest and there's a spark. Go ahead, take a guess.

Wrong! They can also be started by them UFO aliens being careless tossing their cigarettes.

 

[mentalfloss]

How do we live in a fire-prone environment | Edmonton Journal

 

[JLM]

Naomi Klein is a moron, and so are you.

Probably although that might be a little severe. Fort McMurray had virtually no precipitation from Sept. to May. Is this a result of Climate change? Regardless of how the fire was caused, I'm guessing that in a year of normal rainfall, the fire may not have been so severe.

 

[captain morgan]

Why don't you look up the stats for Ft Mac in terms of rainfall, or snow, as that is more likely from Sept to May.

Save you the guessing on what is 'normal'