The relation between the wrong-doing and misguidance

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This is my way: I call to God alone, with insight derived from the Quran and its interpretation; so according to God's guidance I will never say my own words unless they coincide and agree with the interpreter's word, and will not contradict him even a little bit.

Quran 9: 32, which means:
{They [: Jews, Christians and pagan Arabs] desire to put out the light [: the Quran] of God, with [the falsehood words of] their mouths a, but God insists to perfect His light [to Muslims, by means of Mohammed] though the unbelievers are averse.}
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a i.e. By saying their lies and by hindering people from God's religion: the religion of the Islam. The 'light' here means: the Quran.
You call the Quran the "light"? The Quran is a book written by a pack of goat herders looking to have a better job. Here's a verse you may like, " and the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not ". That's you selfschlong. You represent the darkness. Because you don't comprehend a damn thing.
 

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That is why you disobeyed your prophet Moses. You did not will to comply with him, but you rebelled against him and against God's commands.
Their Rebellion against Their Prophet
The Disagreement of the

While to me: I comply and obey God's command and believe in His Quran and its interpretation.
You know I disobeyed how? Isn't lying and bearing false witness - especially to yourself - a crime in your hooliganism?
 

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Thankfully Muslims exist, because weapon merchants need someone to kill to keep making money. And Muslims are perfect, because they keep trying to fight back, no matter how impossible the odds are stacked against them.

Thank you for keeping our military industrial complex profitable.

Without a enemy it would simply collapse.

And our dominance over the world with it.

Your wickedness is known to all humanity; but your wickedness will make you perish with your own weapons.

Quran 5: 64, which means:
{We cast enmity and hatred among them h till Doomsday;
every time [Jews] kindle [with sedition] the fire of war [against Muslims], God does extinguish it.
They strive to make mischief in the earth
i, but God loves not mischief-makers j.}
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h i.e. among Jews and Christians, which will continue till Doomsday.

i By stirring the sedition, transgressing on the honor and misleading the common people.

j Therefore, God does not guide them to the Islam because they are hypocrites and mischief doers.
 

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Your wickedness is known to all humanity; but your wickedness will make you perish with your own weapons.

Quran 5: 64, which means:
{We cast enmity and hatred among them h till Doomsday;
every time [Jews] kindle [with sedition] the fire of war [against Muslims], God does extinguish it.
They strive to make mischief in the earth
i, but God loves not mischief-makers j.}
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h i.e. among Jews and Christians, which will continue till Doomsday.

i By stirring the sedition, transgressing on the honor and misleading the common people.

j Therefore, God does not guide them to the Islam because they are hypocrites and mischief doers.

My wickedness is the same as yours. Remember when God got mad at the Muslims for the same wickedness?

Do you think God will love you more by fighting our wickedness by using your wickedness against it?

See how your lack of critical thinking due to heavy indoctrination is really apparent?

It's why I feel like I'm talking to a primitive monkey when conversing with you at times.
 

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Your wickedness is known to all humanity; but your wickedness will make you perish with your own weapons.

Quran 5: 64, which means:
{We cast enmity and hatred among them h till Doomsday;
every time [Jews] kindle [with sedition] the fire of war [against Muslims], God does extinguish it.
They strive to make mischief in the earth
i, but God loves not mischief-makers j.}
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h i.e. among Jews and Christians, which will continue till Doomsday.

i By stirring the sedition, transgressing on the honor and misleading the common people.

j Therefore, God does not guide them to the Islam because they are hypocrites and mischief doers.
Your Quran is a book written by goat herders wanting to be more than what they were. That's what you worship. Writings of wannabes.
 

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This is my way: I call to God alone, with insight derived from the Quran and its interpretation; so according to God's guidance I will never say my own words unless they coincide and agree with the interpreter's word, and will not contradict him even a little bit.

Quran 9: 32, which means:
{They [: Jews, Christians and pagan Arabs] desire to put out the light [: the Quran] of God, with [the falsehood words of] their mouths a, but God insists to perfect His light [to Muslims, by means of Mohammed] though the unbelievers are averse.}
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a i.e. By saying their lies and by hindering people from God's religion: the religion of the Islam. The 'light' here means: the Quran.

Really? That's kind of.....sad. You won't say your own words unless
they are the same as this other characters, and will not contradict
him even a little bit? In the world of 'what if's'....what if this guy is
wrong? What if his interpretation is wrong at times, and thus not
the the word of of your God, but this guy's interpretation of the
interpretation of the guy who actually listened to Muhammad who
was interpreting your God's word as he whispered in Muhammad's
ear?

Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly is just an other man like you or I,
and the guy who listened to Muhammad was just another man like
you or I, and none of us are infallible. Maybe this Muhammad the
Prophet was more of a man in your world view than you or I, but
wasn't he also illiterate....so that he couldn't write down your Gods
word directly? He'd have to rely on others to hopefully record what
he claimed he was told by your God correctly....

It's like the game of telephone. One kid whispers in the ear of another,
who leans over to repeat that in the ear of another, and it goes around
the circle. The last one states out loud what he was told, and it's
usually nothing even close to what the original world was. That's one
hell of a hill to live and die on. To each their own though.

The reason for the decline of Muslims, and their future glory:
"The religion of the Islam prevailed and became high for seven centuries; and believers took possession of countries and overcame the nations of disbelievers, when Muslims followed the straight path and the true religion.

But when they changed and increased in luxury and in the rapture with music and the alike, and they drank the wine, committed fornication; then God gave the Tatar a power over them; so they killed, lowered and humiliated them, tore their books and destroyed their mosques; and that was in the time of the last of the kings of Abbasid Caliphs.

Since then, Muslims started to decline and lower down, till they became enslaved to Christians and others for seven centuries also. [so the total will be 1400 years: 14 centuries]

But after suffering the pain of enslavement and the bitterness of life, they begged God and complained to Him about their humiliation and their difficulties; so God answered their prayer and started to free them from the hand of imperialists.

And Muslims will also have happiness [dignity and prosperity], by the hand of the Mahdi [i.e. the Paraclete], and they will have the high hand [also for the next seven centuries]; and the Islam religion will prevail over all religions."

http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#The_reason_for_the_decline_of_Muslims

Which Islam are you wanting to prevail over all religions? The religion
of Islam in Afghanistan in the '60's & '70's.....or the religion of Islam in
Afghanistan in the last decade or so?



Angstrom is no more Jewish than you are Selfsame.
 
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But after suffering the pain of enslavement and the bitterness of life, they begged God and complained to Him about their humiliation and their difficulties; so God answered their prayer and started to free them from the hand of imperialists.
And Muslims will also have happiness [dignity and prosperity], by the hand of the Mahdi [i.e. the Paraclete], and they will have the high hand [also for the next seven centuries]; and the Islam religion will prevail over all religions."


...and then they met themselves and came to realize that it wasn't the Christians and Jews who really opressed them but other Muslims. It was Shiite to Sunni, Sunni to Shiite that ultimately destroyed them.
 

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Really? That's kind of.....sad. You won't say your own words unless
they are the same as this other characters, and will not contradict
him even a little bit?

God sent His messengers or apostles, then some people followed the messengers so as to comply to God's commands: so these were the believers: the followers of the messengers or apostles.
While other people disbelieved, denied and rebelled.

So in summary: you are a disbeliever. You belong to the camp of disbelievers who deny the words of the apostles and want to have their own words rather than God's words.

In the Psalms of David (the Psalm 11: 5) about the dispraise of Jews:
"5-Who have said: We will magnify our tongue: our lips are our own. Who is Lord over us?
The Disagreement of the

Quran 39: 33, which means:
{And [Mohammed] who has brought the truth [: the Quran],
and the [believers] who has believed therein;
such [truly] are the god-fearing.
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If you give your kid an AK, are you going to be happy if the kid leaves it hung on the wall and never squeezes off a round? It's the same thing with the gift of independent thought and the ability to stand freely on your own hind legs. Honour your maker. Think.....
 

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God sent His messengers or apostles, then some people followed the messengers so as to comply to God's commands: so these were the believers: the followers of the messengers or apostles.
While other people disbelieved, denied and rebelled.

So in summary: you are a disbeliever. You belong to the camp of disbelievers who deny the words of the apostles and want to have their own words rather than God's words.

Quran 39: 33, which means:
{And [Mohammed] who has brought the truth [: the Quran],
and the [believers] who has believed therein;
such [truly] are the god-fearing.
}
If you don't convert we will have to bring God's wrath down on you. You should be expecting us.
 

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If you don't convert we will have to bring God's wrath down on you. You should be expecting us.

Quran 5: 60, which means:
{Say [Mohammedd]: "Shall I tell you [Jews] about something worse than that [you mock at, of our religion]e – concerning a reward from God [that will be for us?f]
They are those [your ancestors and you] whom God cursed g, and His wrath was kindled against them h,
and He made out of their [dead bodies] the apes and swines
i [in Palestine, after the coming of Nabuchodonosor],
and [those who] served the Taghoot: the tyrant [: Nabuchodonosor, and Pharaoh before him.]
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Those [who served Baal and Astaroth] are [today] worst in abode and farthest [than others] astray from the right way."}
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e Because we believe in God alone and we do not associate anything with Him.

f And we will not have evil as do you claim, but the evil will be for you and your ancestors who associated with God, and worshipped the calf, Baal, and Astaroth.

g i.e. God shifted him away from His mercy, and humiliated him.

h Because of their disbelieving and worshipping the idols.

i i.e. He created the apes and swines, in the country of Palestine, out of their dead corpses, and that was after the event of Nabuchodonosor.

j i.e. God caused them to be slaves of Nabuchodonosor who enslaved them for seventy years, as had Pharaoh enslaved them for two hundred years. This is in the in the life of the World; while in the Next Life, the spirits of the associaters and idolaters among them serve the devils in the Barzakh world (or the spirit world or the afterlife world.)

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
 

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Quran 5: 60, which means:
{Say [Mohammedd]: "Shall I tell you [Jews] about something worse than that [you mock at, of our religion]e – concerning a reward from God [that will be for us?f]
They are those [your ancestors and you] whom God cursed g, and His wrath was kindled against them h,
and He made out of their [dead bodies] the apes and swines
i [in Palestine, after the coming of Nabuchodonosor],
and [those who] served the Taghoot: the tyrant [: Nabuchodonosor, and Pharaoh before him.]
j
Those [who served Baal and Astaroth] are [today] worst in abode and farthest [than others] astray from the right way."}
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e Because we believe in God alone and we do not associate anything with Him.

f And we will not have evil as do you claim, but the evil will be for you and your ancestors who associated with God, and worshipped the calf, Baal, and Astaroth.

g i.e. God shifted him away from His mercy, and humiliated him.

h Because of their disbelieving and worshipping the idols.

i i.e. He created the apes and swines, in the country of Palestine, out of their dead corpses, and that was after the event of Nabuchodonosor.

j i.e. God caused them to be slaves of Nabuchodonosor who enslaved them for seventy years, as had Pharaoh enslaved them for two hundred years. This is in the in the life of the World; while in the Next Life, the spirits of the associaters and idolaters among them serve the devils in the Barzakh world (or the spirit world or the afterlife world.)

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

God no longer loves Islam, Christianity, or Jew's. He has sent a new prophet, and your ignorance of him has condemned you, the same way he has condemned the others before you. His wrath is on you as we speak.

Convert, or face eternal damnation.
 

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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post
God is a myth so one cannot be against god.

Your cult is all wrong doers. Unless of course you believe that mutilating little girls and blowing up schools full of kids the right thing to do.

And lets not forget stoning women to death because they got raped by a believer.
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selfsame:-

Such words are clear examples of the assertions of the atheist.

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So, according to how you apparently think, stoning women, cutting off heads of unbelievers, and mutilating young women is approved of by your faith and is okay. Anyone disagreeing with such behavior is an atheist??? My word what a nasty God you have.!!

By the way, I am beginning to understand how so many young disaffected persons being bombarded with such ideas are falling into terrorism. Have you considered, with just a smidgen more indoctrination, you too could have become a fanatical terrorist??
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post
God is a myth so one cannot be against god.

Your cult is all wrong doers. Unless of course you believe that mutilating little girls and blowing up schools full of kids the right thing to do.

And lets not forget stoning women to death because they got raped by a believer.
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selfsame:-

Such words are clear examples of the assertions of the atheist.

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So, according to how you apparently think, stoning women, cutting off heads of unbelievers, and mutilating young women is approved of by your faith and is okay. Anyone disagreeing with such behavior is an atheist??? My word what a nasty God you have.!!

By the way, I am beginning to understand how so many young disaffected persons being bombarded with such ideas are falling into terrorism. Have you considered, with just a smidgen more indoctrination, you too could have become a fanatical terrorist??

He is a fanatic, Islamic parents beat their children until they learn the whole Quran by hart.



When Catholics used to do that, we used to burn people alive.
People are executed publicly if you don't follow the Quran by the letter.
 

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He is a fanatic, Islamic parents beat their children until they learn the whole Quran by hart.



When Catholics used to do that, we used to burn people alive.
People are executed publicly if you don't follow the Quran by the letter.
Oh dear, I hope he/she does not have children!!! selfsame, be aware that in Canada, there is a law against beating children in order to convert them to your beliefs. I do hope you know this. There is no tolerance to violence to enforce beliefs on anyone, even one's children.