The Official Contempt for Alberta Thread

petros

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

Thanks for the laugh. There isn't enough copper and lead kicking around.
 
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mentalfloss

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

Yes we know you about Alberta losing jobs.
 

Nick Danger

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

It would be naive to think that the writing isn't on the wall for the burning of fossil fuels, we are seeing it now with the opposition to expansion in the industry here in Canada.
 

petros

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

What does construction workers mainly from the east who were layed off have to do with there not being enough copper and lead for you electric car pipe dream?

It would be naive to think that the writing isn't on the wall for the burning of fossil fuels, we are seeing it now with the opposition to expansion in the industry here in Canada.

You won't see established areas on the grid going with whirlygigs or solar those will be gas or hydro. It it will only be used on growing areas to fill in the gaps as supplements.
 

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

Electric cars are the new joke prediction -- like the flying cars were in the last century. Too many issues with them for them to be viable in the near future. Also extremely bad for the environment.
 

Nick Danger

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

You won't see established areas on the grid going with whirlygigs or solar those will be gas or hydro. It it will only be used on growing areas to fill in the gaps as supplements.

I agree, wind and solar technologies haven't reached the point where they can be the "one and only" source for energy. We will see the dirtier fuels phased out though, coal will be the first to go, followed by heavy oil. It's only logical that any program of change start with the worst offenders. Gasoline will get caught up in the wave to a lesser extent, the bad press fossil fuels are getting will have those who are financially able make a move to alternative transportation. It won't come as a surprise to me to see gasoline taxes rise as electric cars become more available.
 

petros

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

Heavy oil is no different than any other, it has a higher sulphur content and that is stripped by an upgrader and the removed sulphur is pure high dollar gravy.
 

Nick Danger

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

Heavy oil is no different than any other, it has a higher sulphur content and that is stripped by an upgrader and the removed sulphur is pure high dollar gravy.

True, but it is still widely used in non-upgraded form. A good example would be marine transportation or "bunker fuel". It is estimated that through the course of a year a single large container ship can emit pollutants equivalent to that of 50 million cars, and the global shipping fleet today numbers in the 90,000 range. It still sees onshore use in some industrial and commercial applications but that is going away fast primarily because of the pollutants it produces.

My point was more to the fact that there is a "clean/dirty" scale with fossil fuels, and we will likely see a concentration on phasing out either the worst polluters first, or the most widely used.
 

bill barilko

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

Heavy oil is no different than any other, it has a higher sulphur content and that is stripped by an upgrader and the removed sulphur is pure high dollar gravy.
Well not quite the high dollars it once brought there's something of a glut but it's still a solid part of international commerce & industry.

Here's a pic of Canada's Most Famous Sulphur pile right in Vancouver harbour

 

Nick Danger

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Re: Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery

Well not quite the high dollars it once brought there's something of a glut but it's still a solid part of international commerce & industry.

There are similar stockpiles at upgrader sites in the oilsands, but not all the operations there upgrade their product before selling. Much of it leaves the country as diluted bitumen which is why proposed pipeline expansions and new construction are seen as bad guys in the global pollution picture.
 

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Well not quite the high dollars it once brought there's something of a glut but it's still a solid part of international commerce & industry.

Here's a pic of Canada's Most Famous Sulphur pile right in Vancouver harbour

I'll bet that place smells like a big giant fart.
 

mentalfloss

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Alberta economy a recipe for fraud

Fraudulent Albertans?

This is not possible.

They're as clean as Texans.


Economic woes in Alberta are a recipe for fraud

Greg Draper has never been busier. A former RCMP investigator turned forensic accountant in Calgary, he started noticing more fraud cases landing on his desk last fall. Disgruntled employees – motivated perhaps by heavier workloads as companies get lean or financial troubles at home – are padding expense claims and overtime pay, invoicing for personal meals and trips, and even forming fictitious vendors under shadow companies to give themselves bonuses.

“We’ve seen this in past recessions,” says Draper, a vice-president with national accounting firm MNP. “Businesses that are reducing their headcount have to consider the impact on their fraud risk.” The toll of layoffs on employees left behind can lead them to defraud their bosses, he says, and fewer staff also means less oversight. “It’s a recipe for trouble,” Draper warns.

The realization that an employee can’t be trusted – especially if it is one for whom others were sacrificed – can be conflicting for small-business owners. They may have a personal relationship with their workers and their families. Employers may take pity on them, while also feeling betrayed.

However, Edmonton forensic accountant Justin Thoman suspects most schemes he’s now investigating took root at the height of the Alberta boom. “When everyone’s rolling in the cash no one’s paying attention,” he says, “but then it gets detected when times are bad again. [Companies] are tightening their belts and wondering, how come we don’t have more money from the good times?”

Economic woes in Alberta are a recipe for fraud - The Globe and Mail
 

Locutus

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Stifling speech again?

Mark Steyn would be so proud lol

No stupid; you know very well that your whiny little narrative troll threads will be condensed into the appropriate greasy section. Anyone that wants to, can certainly read over your grimy submissions in all their splendiferous tearitude.
 

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Anyone that wants to, can certainly read over your grimy submissions in all their splendiferous tearitude.

I would recommend that anyone that wishes to review Flossy's wholly objective, balanced and insightful submissions do so whilst wearing a hockey helmet.... Surely, donning the appropriate tard regalia while reading the like-minded submissions will offer the full flavor of the mindset of the author