Khadr to Harper: Sorry to disappoint you
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Innocent until proven guilty is the cornerstone of our justice system. When you raise the issue about not housing him in my house, you are just highlighting your crass ignorance for the whole world to see. There no more room in my house to house anybody, there's no more beds, there's no more room at the table and with several females living here there is no more bathroom facilities. Are you capable of savvying this are you just too f**king thick? If you have nothing constructive to add to the posts - JUST KINDLY F**K OFF!
You are correct. Innocent until proven/found guilty. Mr. Kadhr has been found guilty. He pleaded it and has served about 5 years of his 8 year sentence. I honestly don't see why you are so worked up about this guy who IS/was a terrorist. Whether he remains one is really the only open question. And with the ruling of the justice system, it is one which will likely be answered with the blood of the general public.
"He pleaded it and has served about 5 years of his 8 year sentence" If you had been following this from the start you would know he pleaded guilty to get out of Gitmo, not because he was necessarily guilty. Can you think of one other case where a Canadian 15 years old got an 8 year sentence? That's just for starters.
Plenty of 15 year olds have been sentenced as adults. 8 years is pretty light sentence for murder.
Some people have alleged that he pleaded guilty just to get out. But that would assume you take the word of a terrorist who has pleaded guilty. Kind of circular logic. And as you say, one should not rush to judgement on these types of things.
And none of them have served more than 7 years in custody.
P.S. I misspoke - Derek Lord is still in jail after 20 odd years but only because he refused to acknowledge his crime or express remorse. His partner in the crime served a very few years before being released. The instigator who was an adult will do 25 minimum.
You are the one rushing to judgment- you've decided he's guilty, I've decided he's innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. An admission to guilt isn't proof!
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I think your google may be broken. When they try somebody as an adult it is usually for murder type charges and that would get 25 without parole for 1st degree, 10 years without parole for 2nd degree (both of those life sentences).
I haven't rushed to any judgement. I have assessed available facts including his conviction in the justice system. But as to my assessment, I don't have to give reasonable doubt. I am not a court of law.
You never know! I'm not always right- to generalize a little I'm pretty sure when ever a juvenile serves more than 7 years, it's his own doing - if he takes responsibility and looks like he won't reoffend he's generally out by 7 years. Having said that there are exceptions to every rule.
Do I detect Ezra is starting to back peddle a bit? It seems he's now on the verge of admitting Omar won't be doing anything physically dangerous. Maybe he will be treading in Ezra's foot steps..................planting ideas!
UPDATE
Studying, skiing, going to the mall: Omar Khadr settles into his new life
Nine months ago, Khadr, 29, walked out of an Edmonton courtroom into the spring sunshine, ending 14 years in prison, four years in Canada and 10 in the U.S. military prison in Guantánamo. Since then, he has been working hard on his new life, getting to know the city, mapping out a career, adapting.
Khadr has known years of controversy. The Harper government called him an unrepentant terrorist. His legal battles are not over. The federal government is preparing to appeal the bail decision of the Alberta Court of Appeal.
Khadr is occasionally reminded of his conditional freedom. He wanted to go to New Year’s celebrations downtown, but also knew that was beyond his midnight curfew. The police, indeed, showed up at the Edney front door that night to make sure he was at home.
“They’ve only come twice since I got the (electronic tracking) bracelet off my ankle and one time was New Year’s Eve. I was at home with Molly the dog.”
the rest........
Studying, skiing, going to the mall: Omar Khadr settles into his new life | Edmonton Journal
Studying, skiing, going to the mall: Omar Khadr settles into his new life
Nine months ago, Khadr, 29, walked out of an Edmonton courtroom into the spring sunshine, ending 14 years in prison, four years in Canada and 10 in the U.S. military prison in Guantánamo. Since then, he has been working hard on his new life, getting to know the city, mapping out a career, adapting.
Khadr has known years of controversy. The Harper government called him an unrepentant terrorist. His legal battles are not over. The federal government is preparing to appeal the bail decision of the Alberta Court of Appeal.
Khadr is occasionally reminded of his conditional freedom. He wanted to go to New Year’s celebrations downtown, but also knew that was beyond his midnight curfew. The police, indeed, showed up at the Edney front door that night to make sure he was at home.
“They’ve only come twice since I got the (electronic tracking) bracelet off my ankle and one time was New Year’s Eve. I was at home with Molly the dog.”
the rest........
Studying, skiing, going to the mall: Omar Khadr settles into his new life | Edmonton Journal
The Liberal government of Jean Chretien was happy to have Khadr go to Gitmo.
Go bug Justin, Omar. Steven did a lot more for you than two Liberal predecessors did.
Go bug Justin, Omar. Steven did a lot more for you than two Liberal predecessors did.
Don't you remember this case?
The father and son both were fighting in Afghanistan. The father was killed. The son lobbed bombs at U.S. soldiers. That's why he was sent to Gitmo.
As a Canadian citizen he was sent back here. His family still lives in Toronto, but 'hates Canada' as the mother has blatantly stated.
I think he and his whole famned damily should have been deported back to where ever they came from in the first place!
Now thanks to our ***** laws, he's free and he's a millionaire too at taxpayers expense.
Jeez! We should all go somewhere in the Mid-east and lob a few bombs and get to be millionaires!