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Nope, they became worm food like you, me and everyone else will when we die. Theistic religion is merely the codification of cultural mores at the time of its advent. There is no divinity to it except that which is falsely attributed to it.

And if you find the next spiritual life is real, and it is only the body that becomes the worm food, then what will be your outcome?
 

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I believe that Hawking said that's a real no Bueno senorita.

And if you find the next spiritual life is real, and it is only the body that becomes the worm food, then what will be your outcome?
Then more than likely his creator will welcome him with loving arms as any parent who loves their child would do.
 

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No friendship between disbelievers on Doomsday:

Quran 43: 67, which means:
{Intimate friends on that day b will be enemies of one another, except the God-fearing c [: they will not be enemies of one another.]}
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b i.e. Doomsday.
c Who ward off God’s disobedience.
 

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Then more than likely his creator will welcome him with loving arms as any parent who loves their child would do.
Nice response. See, I don't utterly reject the notion of a god or something. I utterly reject the notion that he/she/it is so concerned with shoving their moralistic duplicity on us mere mortals. I utterly reject the notion of a god that is so insecure it demands constant attention, appreciation, and worship.
 

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I believe that Hawking said that's a real no Bueno senorita.


Then more than likely his creator will welcome him with loving arms as any parent who loves their child would do.

Of course .. of course :lol:

Quran 5: 18, which means
{Jews and Christians say: "We are the sons of God and His beloved ones." a
Say [Mohammed, to them]: "Why then does He punish you b according to your sins?
Not so, you are only mortals: [some] of those whom He has created
c:
He forgives to whom
d He pleases and chastises whom e He pleases.
God's is the ownership of the heavens and the earth f and all g that is between them, and the final resorting will be to Him [following your death.] h}
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a i.e. they are so close to God as is the son to his father, because God loves them according to their claim.
b In the life of the World by the hand of your enemies, and in the Next Life by Fire to anyone of you disbelieves, as is it in your Book … if God truly loves you apart from other people.
c With no difference between you and them.
d i.e. who repents and who deserves the forgiveness.
e i.e. who deserves the punishment.
f i.e. the ownership of the planets including the earth.
g The moons, meteorites, meteors, comets and thunderbolts... by which He destroys, in one minute, whomever He wants to destroy.
h It means: your souls will go to him and then He will deal with you according to your acts.}

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
 
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No friendship between disbelievers on Doomsday:

Quran 43: 67, which means:
{Intimate friends on that day b will be enemies of one another, except the God-fearing c [: they will not be enemies of one another.]}
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b i.e. Doomsday.
c Who ward off God’s disobedience.

Should a doomsday actually happen every religious nutjob is going to claw, stab, shoot their way forward that nobody friends aren't going to matter. You're all busy trying to kill each other and everyone else now I can only imagine how desperate you'd all be should such a day really exist.

Some dumbazz will likely accidentally detonate it's suicide vest and blow all the "believers" to smithereens.
 

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While the pious who ward off God's punishment by avoiding His disobedience and by avoiding the sins, so such God-fearing men will prosper in Paradise and will be friends of each other.

Quran 19: 96, which means:
{Surely, those who believe and work righteous [deeds]; the Most Gracious will make for them friendliness. k}
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k It means: In the Next Life, He will make them, love each other like brothers; none of them feel rancorous to others, as in the life of the World.

This is confirmed by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 15: 47, which means:
(And We shall remove what rancor may be in their breasts [in order to love each other as] brothers; [and they will sit] face to face [and recline] on the couches [at the time of their chatting.])

Written in Arabic by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

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I see that atheists here speak about religious! What religious?
It is not the religious that will prosper in Paradise, but the believer in God devoting exclusively his worship to Him alone without associate or son or equal or patron, and who is not enthusiastic about the Christ, saints, Jewish rabbis and sages, and Muslim imams and sheikhs.
And he should work the righteous work and avoid the disobedience.
And such admission into paradise or heaven will not happen unless by God's mercy and forgiveness.
 

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I see that atheists here speak about religious! What religious?
It is not the religious that will prosper in Paradise, but the believer in God devoting exclusively his worship to Him alone without associate or son or equal or patron, and who is not enthusiastic about the Christ, saints, Jewish rabbis and sages, and Muslim imams and sheikhs.
And he should work the righteous work and avoid the disobedience.
And such admission into paradise or heaven will not happen unless by God's mercy and forgiveness.
See? God has a major insecurity problem. And he's jealous. I see no reason to worship a petty, jealous being who demands sh*t from me while offering nothing in return except for some vague promise of an afterlife.
 

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And if you find the next spiritual life is real, and it is only the body that becomes the worm food, then what will be your outcome?

I will dominate it, in the same way I've dominated this life. I just don't have time like you to be wasting on thinking about the next life. I got this life to win first. Your getting ahead of yourself.
 

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I will dominate it, in the same way I've dominated this life.

Certainly disbelievers have the self-conceit.
This illusion comes to many rich people that: there is no other spiritual life starting after death, and if there is any, then the rich will also be in good condition, as he is in this life of the World.
So this is about a rich man who was an associater: he associated others with God; so he said as in the Quran 18: 35-36, which mean:
{35. And the [associater] went into his garden, having wronged himself b; said he:
">> I do not think that this [garden] will ever perish."


>> 36. "Nor do I think that the Hour [of Doomsday and Judgment] will ever occur c;

>> and if I am indeed returned to my Lord [in the Next Life], I shall surely find a better estate than this [garden, when I shall die and go to the Next Life.]
d "}
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b With his association and withholding the rights of the poor, due of his two gardens.
c And people will be requited and rewarded for their deeds, so they say: “Expend on the poor, and God will give you in Paradise.”
d “No, such words are not correct in fact.”
 

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Certainly disbelievers have the self-conceit.
This illusion comes to many rich people that: there is no other spiritual life starting after death, and if there is any, then the rich will also be in good condition, as he is in this life of the World.
So this is about a rich man who was an associater: he associated others with God; so he said as in the.”

I do not fear death as you do. You are easily manipulated by your fear.
 

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You are here a group of atheists; I don't mean to tell you; the argument has been established against you; but I am telling to others who seek after the truth about the Quran.
 

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You are here a group of atheists; I don't mean to tell you; the argument has been established against you; but I am telling to others who seek after the truth about the Quran.

Intelligent people like me can easily use your fear of death, and your blind faith to commit atrocities. The seed has been planted in you to be easily manipulated. You are a valuable peon in a intelligents mans Arsenal.
 

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You are here a group of atheists; I don't mean to tell you; the argument has been established against you; but I am telling to others who seek after the truth about the Quran.

wow, you finally posted it. I was wondering when you'd get there.

Intelligent people like me can easily use your fear of death, and your blind faith to commit atrocities. The seed has been planted in you to be easily manipulated.

yeah but you'll never use their absolute faith against them and take their money and live high on the hog like the mega churches preachers do. I think they're truly the smart ones! They're multi billionaires peddling their snake oil and flaunting their giant tax free houses and churches for all to see.
 

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I will dominate it, in the same way I've dominated this life. I just don't have time like you to be wasting on thinking about the next life. I got this life to win first. Your getting ahead of yourself.

This is opposite to the correct way that: man should prepare for his Next Life, by every righteous work and charity giving;

(of course on condition he believes in God alone without associate, or else his work will be in vain and he will not be rewarded for it.)

Quran 59: 18, which means:
{O you who believe, ward off God's [disobedience]; let every soul consider what [good work] it has forwarded for tomorrow [following death a.]
And ward off [the disobedience of the messenger of] God; [for] God is Most Aware of [all] that you do. b}
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a It means: for the day of its going from the life of the World to the Next Life; because the death appointment is imminent; it may be he will die tomorrow.
b So, following your death, He will take you to account about your deeds.

The interpretation was written in Arabic by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

Intelligent people like me can easily use your fear of death, and your blind faith to commit atrocities. The seed has been planted in you to be easily manipulated. You are a valuable peon in a intelligents mans Arsenal.

Intelligent sure :smile:
Yes, exactly, you don't fear death, and you cling to life because it is your last resort, and you are certain that you will lose in the Next Life.

Quran 2: 94-96, which mean:
{94. Say [Mohammed to the Jews]: 'If the abode of [Paradise in heaven in] the Next Life, in the neighborhood of God, is solely for you to the exclusion of the [rest of] people [who are Muslims],
then long for death [to go to Paradise in heaven and prosper there] if you are truthful [in your claim that Paradise is solely for you to the exclusion of others.]

95. But they will never long for [death], because of [the large number of sins and crimes] that their hands have forwarded;
God is All-Knowing of the wrong-doers [so He will admit them into Hell instead of Paradise.]


96. You will find [Jews] the greediest among [all] people [of the heavenly religions] for life;
and [even greedier] than those [idolaters and Magians] who associate [others with God];


[Then God explained how they covet to live long life in the World.]
[Each] one of [Jews] wishes to be granted a life of a thousand years.
But to live [any long life] will by no means [hardly] remove him [even a little bit] away from the doom [of Hell] b;
for God is All-Seeing all that they do [so He will accordingly punish them in the Next Life.]
}
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b It means: giving man a long life will not save him from the punishment, but it is the God-fearing and the righteous deeds that save man from the doom.
And if anyone of them stays in the World for one thousand years, thinking about any way to save him from God's punishment, then he will not find any way other than the belief in God and the compliance to Him.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
 
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Of course .. of course :lol:

Quran 5: 18, which means
{Jews and Christians say: "We are the sons of God and His beloved ones." a
Say [Mohammed, to them]: "Why then does He punish you b according to your sins?
Not so, you are only mortals: [some] of those whom He has created c:
He forgives to whom d He pleases and chastises whom e He pleases.
God's is the ownership of the heavens and the earth f and all g that is between them, and the final resorting will be to Him [following your death.] h}
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a i.e. they are so close to God as is the son to his father, because God loves them according to their claim.
b In the life of the World by the hand of your enemies, and in the Next Life by Fire to anyone of you disbelieves, as is it in your Book … if God truly loves you apart from other people.
c With no difference between you and them.
d i.e. who repents and who deserves the forgiveness.
e i.e. who deserves the punishment.
f i.e. the ownership of the planets including the earth.
g The moons, meteorites, meteors, comets and thunderbolts... by which He destroys, in one minute, whomever He wants to destroy.
h It means: your souls will go to him and then He will deal with you according to your acts.}

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
I don't believe in your god. Sounds pretty hateful and petty to me. Someone said awhile back, which one of you, if your child asks for bread, will he give him a stone? Or which of you, if your child asks for a fish, will you give him a snake? If you being evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father give you? ~ your god doesn't sound like that. Your god offers nothing but a heavy load to carry on your shoulders.
 
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