Freedom of speech and thought and equality is what the West is and Islam forbids it.

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Real men use clubs or bare hands. What kind of a poofter needs a gun when he could strangle the intruder with his bare hands. Which is far more satisfying then six or seven rounds of rifle cartridge out the window.



An incomplete four word sentence isn't much of a rebuttle, Ludblow, sir.
No sense in trying to rebuttle shyt that sounds like it came from Carl Childress in the movie Slingblade. Repeat after me,,,,I like em French fried taters,,,,
 

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So you suggest that believers should take disbelievers, like Ludlow and many other adversaries, as loyal friends; I shall think about this marvelous idea :roll:



You believe in Jesus from what I hear.


He said to love your neighbor as yourself.


He did not say to love your neighbour only if he is like yourself.


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DL
 

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So you suggest that believers should take disbelievers, like Ludlow and many other adversaries, as loyal friends; I shall think about this marvelous idea :roll:
no one wants to be your loyal friend self****e . People are just replying to your horse shyte beliefs. And if you kept the garbage to yourself and stopped sharing the crap with people who couldn't care less about it, you'd have no problems, Ya fookin turnip head.
 

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It is not like that.
The disbelief and apostasy from the religion of the Islam will lead man to go to Hell. But if he is captured by the enemy who will kill him if he admits being a believer, then he may say the word of disbelief, only by tongue not by heart.
While if he disbelieves by heart, then he deserves Hell.



Is hell the same for Muslim men as it is for Muslim women?


Is heaven the same for Muslim men as it is for Muslim women?


If not, why not?


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DL

What a mess!
So am I the idol worshipper or you, who erect the statues of the Christ and his mother in your churches? .


I am not a Christian so the rest of what you wrote does not apply.


I asked a few question. Do you plan to answer them or run away?


Regards
DL
 

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What a mess!
So am I the idol worshipper or you, who erect the statues of the Christ and his mother in your churches? Moreover, the cross itself is an idol, on which the statue of the Christ hanged!
While this is an obvious contradiction of the first commandment which is the most important of all the commandments: that you should not take any engraved statue to adore it?

If Jesus tells you: follow the Quran which is the miraculous revealed word of God, what will you answer?
I know that Jesus Christ will deny many men who will come to him in the Next Life, and he will drive them away, in spite of being Christians called according to his name, and will say to them: Truly, I tell you: I don't know you, go away from me.

While the age of sexual maturity is the age where man and woman will be taken to account when he/she attains.

Moreover, why do you and others insist on this point, which is contradictory and is a matter of variation among Muslims; i.e. it is only one narration, while there are other narrations that she was older.

Think also, Prophet Mohammed had nine wives, why should he take a child for marriage? What benefit might he get from a child? While there were so many women among the believers: virgins and widows and he could take anyone he wants, and she will be glad?



You are a people following falsehood deliberately and intentionally.

It is not a must: man is not obliged to say the word of blasphemy, but he is allowed to say by tongue not by heart in order to save his life;

and I think this is very logical, because why should he endanger his life and his security, if it is only related to saying some words to ward the hurt from himself.

I think in some circumstances, this will be an obvious foolishness, to endanger his life and safety.

Moreover, I know you are a hero [on the internet only of course :lol:], may be better than Peter who denied his teacher before the crying of the cock.

The white Lie.

No sense in trying to rebuttle shyt that sounds like it came from Carl Childress in the movie Slingblade. Repeat after me,,,,I like em French fried taters,,,,

You are the product of motion pictures. Have smore pop corn.


Thanks for all of this.
I did pull this bit.
" Your view of the west as a bastion of permanent stability is unfounded and hopeful at best."
I never indicated that this was my view. You read a lot that I did not say in what I said.
With jihadists and other kooks about, there is no such thing as permanent stability.
I think that most immigrants heading to the U.K., if I recall a news report well, are economic migrants and not freeing war.
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DL

The west is white right? Corporate jihadists and kooks are the government in the west. Thier actions unequivocally prove that. You have swallowed the bait of liars thieves and mass murdering perverts. So what if you are successful in filling the seats with white people? Stone cold pricks will still rule."There is no such thing as permanent stability" yet you preach to realize that impossible goal. Your time would be more productively spent doing your hair.
 

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The white Lie.



You are the product of motion pictures. Have smore pop corn.




The west is white right? Corporate jihadists and kooks are the government in the west. Thier actions unequivocally prove that. You have swallowed the bait of liars thieves and mass murdering perverts. So what if you are successful in filling the seats with white people? Stone cold pricks will still rule."There is no such thing as permanent stability" yet you preach to realize that impossible goal. Your time would be more productively spent doing your hair.
Ah like biscuits and mustard um hmm.
 

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You believe in Jesus from what I hear.


He said to love your neighbor as yourself.


He did not say to love your neighbour only if he is like yourself.


Regards
DL

I dislike the atheist, the disbeliever and the idolater and every enemy of God, whether he is a neighbor or a kindred or others.

If not for lies, there would be no churches or mosques.


Regards
DL

Regards,
or synagogues?
 

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I dislike the atheist, the disbeliever and the idolater and every enemy of God, whether he is a neighbor or a kindred or others.



Regards,
or synagogues?



Possibly, but I do not see Jews as idol worshipers like Christians and Muslims have become.


I see them more as spoken of here.


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html


Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."


Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.


"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."


Good that you did not argue against imams lying to Muslims.


"I dislike the atheist, the disbeliever and the idolater"


You are an idolater so must dislike yourself.


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DL
 

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You are a people following falsehood deliberately and intentionally.

It is not a must: man is not obliged to say the word of blasphemy, but he is allowed to say by tongue not by heart in order to save his life;

and I think this is very logical, because why should he endanger his life and his security, if it is only related to saying some words to ward the hurt from himself.

I think in some circumstances, this will be an obvious foolishness, to endanger his life and safety.

Moreover, I know you are a hero [on the internet only of course :lol:], may be better than Peter who denied his teacher before the crying of the cock.



Are you saying that Christ lied? That Christ led his followers astray?
 

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Possibly, but I do not see Jews as idol worshipers like Christians and Muslims have become.

Jews live on the wars between Muslims and Christians.

Quran 5: 64, which means:
{We cast enmity and hatred among them h till Doomsday;
every time [Jews] kindle [with sedition] the fire of war [against Muslims], God does extinguish it.
They strive to make mischief in the earth
i, but God loves not mischief-makers j.}
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h i.e. among Jews and Christians, which will continue till Doomsday.

i By stirring the sedition, transgressing on the honor and misleading the common people.

j Therefore, God does not guide them to the Islam because they are hypocrites and mischief doers.
 

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I dislike the atheist, the disbeliever and the idolater and every enemy of God, whether he is a neighbor or a kindred or others.
meh Your god made its own enemies. If you and your god leave people to their own devices and quit sticking your beaks into everyone else's business, you would not have atheist, disbeliever, and idolater enemies. But no, you Islamic activists are no better than medieval Christians. And you best bet would be to quit being so stupid and stop trying to tell everyone else how to live their lives.
 

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P.S. I am not racist against Islam and Muslims. If I could, I would ban all idol worshiping religions, --- including Christianity and Islam, --- as all both are good for is producing homophobic and misogynous men.
Here in the West what makes us great and better than Islamic world is that we do not ban idol worshiping. We believe in freedom of thought and freedom of association. Freedom to practice or not practice any religion you choose. Where we draw the line is where someone uses violence against others. That cannot be tolerated.
 

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Jews live on the wars between Muslims and Christians.

Quran 5: 64, which means:
{We cast enmity and hatred among them h till Doomsday;
every time [Jews] kindle [with sedition] the fire of war [against Muslims], God does extinguish it.
They strive to make mischief in the earth
i, but God loves not mischief-makers j.}
.........................................................

h i.e. among Jews and Christians, which will continue till Doomsday.

i By stirring the sedition, transgressing on the honor and misleading the common people.

j Therefore, God does not guide them to the Islam because they are hypocrites and mischief doers.



Sages have always warned against idol worshipers for exactly the characteristics you are showing us you have.


Regards
DL

Here in the West what makes us great and better than Islamic world is that we do not ban idol worshiping. We believe in freedom of thought and freedom of association. Freedom to practice or not practice any religion you choose. Where we draw the line is where someone uses violence against others. That cannot be tolerated.



Religions do not have any rights that are not granted by governments.


We live by rule of law and not by rule of imaginary absentee Gods.


Violence is not the limit. The U.S. for instance has implemented employment laws for churches who refused to pay for birth control and have also limited where churches can picket. IE. They cannot picket close to where soldiers are being buried.


That last was against Westborough Baptist which runs quite close to Islam.



True that unlike some places where Sharia is in place, we do not ban all religions.

They like to build mosques on our land but do not allow churches on theirs.


Reciprocity or do unto others is a moral tenet popular with almost everyone except Muslims.



Regards
DL