Ontario's Lesbian Premier is asking for harmony and peace towards Muslims

Walter

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So evidently being with a man wasn't her thing.

It's still half-facts; it's not only Muslims who would decry her and that's my point.
In Canada it would be those who adhere to Sharia that would kill her.
 

Serryah

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Nothing really, besides being more of an Islamic thing.

But we aren't talking about importing people from a Christian country that kills homosexuals. We're talking about importing them from a country that still has laws against it and the govt actively enforces the law. While some citizens take matters into their own hands.

We can use all the moral relevancy we want to try and whitewash it. But at the end of the day, Wynndsock would be a marked woman in Syria.

She'd be marked in Uganda too. And it's a big issue in India as well now. Russia too.

Though I do agree that it is more open in Muslim countries what would happen to her for being 'out'.
 

Serryah

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In Canada it would be those who adhere to Sharia that would kill her.

As far as I'm aware no one who follows that has killed anyone who is homosexual in Canada, despite what their faith says.

Just like Christians.

Walter, If they could, Christians would - and have - killed gay, lesbian, bi, Trans and other 'not normal' people just because that's what their "Good Book" says. At least be truthful about it for once, would ya?
 

Serryah

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Are we discussing the importation of 25,000 Ugandan refugees?

Nope.

But then I'm not assuming all Syrian refugees will be Muslim, or will be extreme in their beliefs that they would call for the murder of people for their sexual orientation.
 

AnnaG

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So she's asking Ontarians to be tolerant. I do not see the big issue here. And it is a bit irrelevant that she is a lesbian, as well. Not all Muslims are raving extremists and it takes turnips to think they are.
 

damngrumpy

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She is still not as bad as that little scheming heterosexual Prime Minister we just got rid of
why he was a low down varmint and we got him out of office after all Liberal is a good word
now ain't it Tory was not the word of the Month in October. Boomer hasn't picked up on that
yet I guess
 

gerryh

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Nothing really, besides being more of an Islamic thing.

But we aren't talking about importing people from a Christian country that kills homosexuals. We're talking about importing them from a country that still has laws against it and the govt actively enforces the law. While some citizens take matters into their own hands.

We can use all the moral relevancy we want to try and whitewash it. But at the end of the day, Wynndsock would be a marked woman in Syria.



Ahhhhhh.....so we should stop allowing immigrants from India into Canada then. Maybe deport all those here already like some rightwing nuts are suggesting with Muslims. Or maybe just put internment camps up like was done with the Japanese in WWII.


and yes, she would, and that has what to do with the refugees coming here? We don't have those laws here and we are not importing the Syrian government.
 

B00Mer

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So she's asking Ontarians to be tolerant. I do not see the big issue here. And it is a bit irrelevant that she is a lesbian, as well. Not all Muslims are raving extremists and it takes turnips to think they are.

8% of 75 million Muslims believe in ISIS. That's 6 million + Muslims, that like Sharia Law.. watch the Bill Maher video above, he's a good'ol Liberal. ;)
 

AnnaG

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Bill Maher is a comedian. I think he is funny sometimes. But as a comedian is in business for the sake of humour, I will quote J K Galbraith: "Humor is richly rewarding to the person who employs it. It has some value in gaining and holding attention, but it has no persuasive value at all."
 

Vbeacher

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There is simply no question that overall Muslims are extraordinarily intolerant compared to other religions. So there is irony in our incompetent, moronic lesbian premier calling on us all to welcome more of them into Ontario.

The arguments of liberals on this issue makes me roll my eyes. Homosexuality is illegal in, as far as I know, every Muslim nation. In many of them the punishment is death, or long prison sentences they are unlikely to survive. But progressives simply cannot allow anyone who isn't white and Christian to be criticized for ANYTHING, so they'll root around for a few cases to fling out as if to say "ah ha! See how evil Christians are!" in order to defend the undefendable.

That's the weird disconnection you have when discussing issues like this with progressives. It's like trying to argue with a truther. No amount of evidence will convince them one group, one culture, one religion, and particularly not ours, is in any way superior or inferior. Want to rape children? Beat your wife? Kill Jews? Slaughter Gays? Don't worry, if you're not White the progressives will rush frantically to your defense.
 

gerryh

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There is simply no question that overall Muslims are extraordinarily intolerant compared to other religions. So there is irony in our incompetent, moronic lesbian premier calling on us all to welcome more of them into Ontario.

The arguments of liberals on this issue makes me roll my eyes. Homosexuality is illegal in, as far as I know, every Muslim nation. In many of them the punishment is death, or long prison sentences they are unlikely to survive. But progressives simply cannot allow anyone who isn't white and Christian to be criticized for ANYTHING, so they'll root around for a few cases to fling out as if to say "ah ha! See how evil Christians are!" in order to defend the undefendable.

That's the weird disconnection you have when discussing issues like this with progressives. It's like trying to argue with a truther. No amount of evidence will convince them one group, one culture, one religion, and particularly not ours, is in any way superior or inferior. Want to rape children? Beat your wife? Kill Jews? Slaughter Gays? Don't worry, if you're not White the progressives will rush frantically to your defense.



So, your answer, to your perception of the majority of Muslims, is to be as intolerant towards them as they are towards you and yours. An eye for an eye kind of mentality. Ok, good to know.
 

AnnaG

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So you think all Muslims are as intolerant as Sharia governments are. I see. And all Christians are too tolerant. I see. And there are no similarities between Islam and Christianity. I see.
:roll:
Ah whatta turnip.
 

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As far as I'm aware no one who follows that has killed anyone who is homosexual in Canada, despite what their faith says.

Just like Christians.

Walter, If they could, Christians would - and have - killed gay, lesbian, bi, Trans and other 'not normal' people just because that's what their "Good Book" says. At least be truthful about it for once, would ya?

If you did kill people for their sexuality (or for anything else) you would-be a murderer. Sharia is not in force here (and hopefully will never be) as it sanctifies murder in countries where it is in effect. Barbaric practices, indeed ..
 

Vbeacher

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So, your answer, to your perception of the majority of Muslims, is to be as intolerant towards them as they are towards you and yours. An eye for an eye kind of mentality. Ok, good to know.

I don't believe I suggested an 'answer'. But if you care to examine the numerous polls on Muslim attitudes you'll find the intolerance is there, very deep and very violent.

I was talking to a girl today about this, and she recalled when she was dating a Lebanese Canadian Muslim. He was born here, and not exactly super religious in that he drank, smoked pot, and had a blonde girlfriend. But as a joke once, when he talked about Jews she told him her grandmother was Jewish. She said his head nearly exploded, and if it hadn't been in public she was pretty sure he would have physically attacked her.

Muslims hate Jews. No, it's not universal, but it's pretty damned generalized. And Muslims hate Homosexuals. Again, not entirely universal, but you'll find vast numbers of Muslims in the world believe they should all be executed on sight. You can't honestly compare that to the more laid back and largely secular Christian societies.

So you think all Muslims are as intolerant as Sharia governments are. I see. And all Christians are too tolerant. I see. And there are no similarities between Islam and Christianity. I see.

How many Muslims want to see Sharia law implemented in their countries? In some nations, ie Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, it's over 90%
 

gerryh

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I don't believe I suggested an 'answer'. But if you care to examine the numerous polls on Muslim attitudes you'll find the intolerance is there, very deep and very violent.

I was talking to a girl today about this, and she recalled when she was dating a Lebanese Canadian Muslim. He was born here, and not exactly super religious in that he drank, smoked pot, and had a blonde girlfriend. But as a joke once, when he talked about Jews she told him her grandmother was Jewish. She said his head nearly exploded, and if it hadn't been in public she was pretty sure he would have physically attacked her.

Muslims hate Jews. No, it's not universal, but it's pretty damned generalized. And Muslims hate Homosexuals. Again, not entirely universal, but you'll find vast numbers of Muslims in the world believe they should all be executed on sight. You can't honestly compare that to the more laid back and largely secular Christian societies.



How many Muslims want to see Sharia law implemented in their countries? In some nations, ie Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, it's over 90%



Like I said, good to know where you stand.
 

AnnaG

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How many Muslims want to see Sharia law implemented in their countries? In some nations, ie Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, it's over 90%
Really? And which of those Muslims advocate absolutely everything in Islam and Sharia?
Ah, whatta turnip.