Canada's Federal Election 2015: The Official Thread

B00Mer

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Re: Harper's attack on Liberal tax plan draws Price is Right comparisons online

1. Justin supports Quebec separation and for someone who has little experience as a leader this is dangerous thinking when you consider that the policy of political appeasement is like having no policy at all. You simply do what people want even if you believe it's wrong and misguided. A laissez-faire philosophy is hardly the kind of leadership Canada presently needs.

2. Justin has said that Canada will be go "backwards in 10,000 different ways" if it changes its funding of abortion or add any legal restrictions to it. Now you know why we believe going forwards with Justin can only augur bad news when he defines "backwards" this way.

3. He fully supports gay marriage. Justin knows this is at odds with Catholic teaching, but as a politicians he feels his views cannot always reflect those of the Church. But Catholicism is not just another idea, but a truth that one must make every effort to live.

4. Justin has said that he would back Quebec's independence if the law on abortion were to change. This is the Machiavellian side of Justin's politics: to get votes for the Liberal Party give Quebec what it wants to hear and wants.

5. Justin is proud of the fact that issues such as abortion and same-sex marriages can no longer be discussed in Canadian politics. Where's the democracy in such a position? And he's talking like this now that his party is part of the oppostion; it can only get worse should he, heaven forbid, be the prime minister sometime in the future.

6. He claims to be Catholic but then makes up his rules on abortion, same-sex marriage and God only knows what else? Of course, he can live his life the way he wishes, but don't confuse this with living the faith while publicly contradicting Catholic teaching by advocating a sort of "cafeteria Catholicism."

7. Justin tends to focus on the politics that comes from the iPhone and iPad generation. It's all about me and more me and what I'm going to do. But shouldn't a federal leader be thinking of we and that without others little is possible. Without God, nothing is possible. The Greeks had a name for this: hubris, and in Shakespeare's tragic characters it was called: a fatal flaw.

8. Justin, like many other politicians, believes that it's a fundamental "human right" for a woman to choose to kill her unborn baby and have the state pay for the cost. Last time we checked this is not a right, but the false propaganda coming from the United Nations and the Human Rights Commissions here in Canada. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights says nothing about "reproductive rights." However, it's important to note that in Article 3 we find this moral principle on which rest all other human rights: "Everyone has a right to life, liberty and security of person."

9. Recently Motion 408 that would have seen the House of Commons debate the idea of when human life begins was defeated. Justin's response to the outcome was to say that he would ask MPs to vote not with their conscience but with the party's position, and this means that the abortion issue cannot be touched. The status quo prevails. Where's the democracy in this approach? On what moral grounds does that argument rest?

10. Justin has admitted in the past that he doesn't agree with everything the Catholic Church teaches. That's his opinion, and he has a right to one. But Catholicism, according to him, needs to turn to a new page and stop following the ideas of old men. So, we can only assume that he believes it's young people like himself with new ideas who can lead and govern Canada. Just what these policies and ideas are isn't yet clear because this would require specifics on his part rather than the jargon of political generalizations and doublespeak. Canadians this time shouldn't get fooled by the meaninglessness of words like "Trudeaumania" or the lie of the past "reason before passion." However, this we do know about Justin's thinking: it's morally absurd and certain demographic suicide, not just for Canada but the entire West. He merely wants to continue on with business as usual: it's to fund the culture of death.

To conclude, Trudeau senior has already done enough moral damage to this country. We don't need his son planning to do more of the same. Canada's future depends on building a culture of love and life. There is no other choice. Of course, we do pray for Justin's conversion and for his change of heart.

Everyday For Life Canada: Ten reasons for not supporting Justin Trudeau
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Harper's attack on Liberal tax plan draws Price is Right comparisons online

Sorry but Trudeau and Mulcair won the debates.

Harper has done an objectively poor job on the economy and he is morally wrong on the niqab issue.
 

AnnaG

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Re: Harper's attack on Liberal tax plan draws Price is Right comparisons online

It's all nothing but bilgewater, regardless of who pumps it out.
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Harper's attack on Liberal tax plan draws Price is Right comparisons online

If you walk backwards mosquitoes like trinkets.
 

lone wolf

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Re: Harper's attack on Liberal tax plan draws Price is Right comparisons online

The niquab was never an issue - but it sure got manipulated into being one. Hiding quick identification was the issue. I'm waiting for someone to cry foul when a masked photo is rejected for a drivers licence
 

mentalfloss

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Trudeau top choice as preferred PM

The latest numbers, released on Oct. 12, show:

32.3 per cent of respondents said Trudeau was their preferred prime minister
28.1 per cent of respondents preferred Harper
20.5 per cent preferred NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair
6.4 per cent preferred Green Party Leader Elizabeth May
10.3 per cent were unsure

Respondents were asked: "Of the current federal political party leaders, could you please rank your top two current local preferences for prime minister?"

Of those who chose Harper as their preferred prime minister, 41 per cent said they had no second choice. Of those who preferred Trudeau, 50 per cent said Mulcair would be their second choice, and of those who chose Mulcair first, 57 per cent said they would pick Trudeau second.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politi...-harper-top-choices-as-preferred-pm-1.2606259
 

Walter

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Re: Trudeau top choice as preferred PM

Nanos always finds the Libs are best.
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Harper's attack on Liberal tax plan draws Price is Right comparisons online

You're right, this had nothing to do with identification.
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Trudeau top choice as preferred PM

As did Ekos, Forum, Leger, Angus Reid, Innovative...

The only ones who don't are Mainstreet.

Which are coincidentally a new pollster and the only one Loc likes to post.


Huh.
 

Cannuck

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Re: Trudeau top choice as preferred PM

I don't personally know a Conservative Party supporter that wouldn't dump Harper in a heart beat. Most support the party in spite of Harper, not because of him.
 

AnnaG

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Re: Trudeau top choice as preferred PM

Oh cool. Now Floosy is making multiple threads of polls and poll numbers on the same topic.
 

Locutus

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Re: Trudeau top choice as preferred PM

it shows some small percentage of 400 people chose a shiny pony this time around when hassled on their phone.

or, maybe they're fukking with the idiot pollsters, who knows eh. :lol:
 

B00Mer

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Re: Trudeau top choice as preferred PM

Justine Trudeau not strong on ISIS for defending Canada from terrorists. But he does floss with AnalFloss daily.

 

AnnaG

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What would happen if the Liberals got a minority?
Fewer shenanigans and scams than if they got
a majority.

If folks make idiotic comments in FoolBook and Tweeter, they deserve "flogging" for being so idiotic. Going on a public media expecting your comments not to be made public is just incredibly moronic.
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Trudeau top choice as preferred PM

I don't personally know a Conservative Party supporter that wouldn't dump Harper in a heart beat. Most support the party in spite of Harper, not because of him.

He's done a good job converting Ontarians.

Justin Trudeau makes pitch to Tory voters in Ontario

Justin Trudeau issued a very pointed appeal to conservative-minded voters as he kicked off the final week of the campaign Monday with stops in areas captured by his opponents in the last election.

The Liberal leader's campaign bus rolled into suburban Ottawa, which voters painted blue four years ago, with a specific pitch to supporters of the former Progressive Conservatives.

Speaking to a room full of his own partisans, Trudeau offered praise for the now-defunct Progressive Conservative party and criticized the Stephen Harper Conservatives

"How swiftly Stephen Harper's Conservatives laid claim to a proud Canadian institution, then hollowed out its centre and replaced the heart with the divisive, secretive and fearful core."

Trudeau told the crowd of several hundred people that Conservatives are their neighbours, cousins and parents — not their enemies. He said they want a growing economy and safe communities just like they do.

..more...

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/justin-trudeau-conservatives-ontario-red-tories-1.3267574