Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyright rules is stealing

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Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyright rules is stealing



Watching U.S. Netflix in Canada by using location-hiding services such as VPNs is stealing and needs to be more frowned upon, the new president of Bell Media says.

At a keynote speech at the Telecom Summit in Toronto on Wednesday, Mary Ann Turcke said Canadians who skirt copyright laws by finding ways of accessing digital content hurt Canadian culture and jobs and need to stop.

"It has to become socially unacceptable to admit to another human being that you are VPNing into U.S. Netflix," she said, "like throwing garbage out your car window — you just don't do it."

Streaming services like Netflix offer customers access to a list of content based on their location. Location is determined by a device's IP address, but a service known as a Virtual Private Network or VPN can fiddle with that and give Canadians, for example, access to Netflix's U.S. catalogue, which is perceived by many to have more, and better, content.

Rather than pushing for more regulation from government or the CRTC to ban the practice, she called on the industry to work together to root out the problem, and to insist that Canadians frown on it the same way they would many other types of illegal activity.

Canadian television produces $6 billion a year to Canada's GDP and employs 125,000 people.

"Not only does society not scold anyone for stealing content — we feature 'how to' articles in our national newspapers educating the masses on how to get around copyright law."

Contentious issue

As head of Canada's largest media company, with 106 radio stations and 30 local TV stations across the country, Turcke finds herself at the forefront of the piracy debate not even two months into getting the job.

In her speech, Turcke painted herself not only as an unabashed champion for Canadian television, but also one who's more optimistic than many about its future.

Far from the accepted narrative that television viewers are skewing older as young Canadians turn elsewhere, Turcke said the average age of a CTV News viewer has been getting younger for several years now.

So she remains confident that the industry has a future. "Delighting Canadians means making it easy to find great content — on any screen — anywhere," she said. "Just make it easy. Viewers are demanding simplicity, and they will seek it out."

Her speech suggests she doesn't see the television industry as being engaged in a war with, as she puts it, "the dreaded Netflix," but rather she thinks the industry needs to adapt to give Canadians what they want, how they want it.

And she used two examples from within her own family to illustrate the point. First, she cited her 15-year-old daughter, who upon returning from the U.S. one day decided she was "bound and determined" to get around Netflix's geolocation rules for Canada because she had become used to the offerings available on the U.S. service.

"I won't spare you the parenting that ensued — she was told she was stealing and that it was like stealing anything else," Turcke said. "Suffice to say there is no more VPNing."

Future looks bright, Turcke says

In another anecdote, she described how watching her 20-year-old daughter and her roommates decide on whether or not to get cable television in their dorm room made her more confident in the industry's future.

"They will get TV — because they want to watch good content, period," Turcke said.

She said she looks forward to working with the CRTC on an upcoming hearing on so-called "discoverability" of digital content.

"Discoverability does not mean — at least not to me, and I hope not to any of you — watching whatever you want for free," she said.

While the industry faces many financial challenges, Turcke's speech suggested the head of Canada's largest media company is confident that it can find a way to make it work for everyone.

"The economic model that gets us from here to there is intimidating, but that is what we get paid to figure out," she said.

source: Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyright rules is stealing - Business - CBC News

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Bell Media president is butt hurt because Bell and most Canadian companies offer crap, and Canadians have found a way to watch better programming.

StrongVPN.com - Providing high speed, unlimited bandwidth, multiple country VPN accounts for over 100,000 users. Since 1995
 

MHz

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I prefer TightVNC but it has nothing to do with streaming vids. it's a remote desktop program. This is the kind of site that is in competition to NetFlix. Bell should start up their own, suck to go from bilking customers $100/mo to watch what you want then too and going down to $4/mo and they watch what they want. Documentaries are free so I watch a lot of them, some are a day old so current is right there.

http://ultra-vid.com/movie-categories
 

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Using a VPN isn't illegal, but it does violate the Netflix terms of service. Netflix could cancel your subscription if you did it, but they won't.
 

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Using a VPN isn't illegal, but it does violate the Netflix terms of service. Netflix could cancel your subscription if you did it, but they won't.

Yeah got that right.. just got off the phone with DirecTV.. they are not suppose to provide service and support to anyone outside of the USA..

I needed to find a address or zip code (service address) so I can get my locals here in Calgary.. no problem.. done.

If the Canadian service providers offered better programming other than channels from 5 time zones.. maybe I would switch.
 

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Time for the corporate mafia types like Bell to get a new job. What they have been doing is just legalized theft.

Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists say that taxes are legalized theft. But if you want to say that a private corporation buying the distribution rights to private intellectual property and selling it to customers at market prices is theft, then you won't even find ME agreeing with you. I'm a straight up over-throw-the-system, death-to-capitalism socialist. Like, you might even find me saying property itself is theft. But you won't find me saying that what Bell does is theft. You're way off the radical deep end. Do we even have a word?
 

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Rather than theft is is a monopoly using 'tactics' that the public is tired of and it goes no deeper that the right to watch waht yopu want when you want rather than having to follow a schedule somebody else has set up.

Bell charges (say) 125 for all it's TV services and then you still need an internet connection to boot. Get a fat broadband connection and a few subscriptions and you TV bill is down to about $50/mo and you watch what you want when you want. Bell doesn't even offer 1/2 the free stuff that found that people are watching. Having 3 TV providers that offer the same services at the same price is not competition, it is a monopoly, using the net for the same services does not break that pattern, it means the bandwidth problem has been solved.
 

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How does someone make it to the executive level without learning the fine art of "political speak"? That would be where you "fully comment" on a topic publicly without actually saying anything about it and therefore not actually alienating a portion of the public they should be, as executives, trying to woo as prospective customers.
 

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How does someone make it to the executive level without learning the fine art of "political speak"? That would be where you "fully comment" on a topic publicly without actually saying anything about it and therefore not actually alienating a portion of the public they should be, as executives, trying to woo as prospective customers.

You know when people say CEOs should earn a ****ton of money of their skill, intelligence and experience to run a successful company? And you know how we sometimes thinks CEOs would make good political leaders, again because of their skill, intelligence and experience running successful companies?

It's bull****. CEOs don't earn what they make. Studies have shown this. High-paid CEOs have seemingly little impact on a company's performance. They're faking it just like you and me.
 

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"political speak", call me a work in progress on that one, I'm more used to dealing with situations where the first sentence gets the expected results, like when a careless welder is covering you in hot slag from a welding torch. Sometimes a paragraph of soft speech is not the best and most effective approach to use. If you watch the 'Game of Thrones' it would be something like the way the tall red-haed solved a little problem before the 'talks could start'. Not quite PC but everybody understood what was happening.

How many bots are allowed to cruise the site? How much does topic control effect potential membership?

MHz would make it far in politics ....if he would decide to do so...
Half the time, nobody knows what the f@&* he's talking about!
. . . and you at your finest is still nothing but cannon fodder. What can I say, as soon as I see something i want to disassemble it to see what makes it tick, something that arrives in a broken state cannot be fixed but the nuts and bolts are handy for 'other things'.
 

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"political speak", call me a work in progress on that one, I'm more used to dealing with situations where the first sentence gets the expected results, like when a careless welder is covering you in hot slag from a welding torch. Sometimes a paragraph of soft speech is not the best and most effective approach to use. If you watch the 'Game of Thrones' it would be something like the way the tall red-haed solved a little problem before the 'talks could start'. Not quite PC but everybody understood what was happening.

How many bots are allowed to cruise the site? How much does topic control effect potential membership?


. . . and you at your finest is still nothing but cannon fodder. What can I say, as soon as I see something i want to disassemble it to see what makes it tick, something that arrives in a broken state cannot be fixed but the nuts and bolts are handy for 'other things'.



U cwazy man, u cwazy MHz
 

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Using a VPN to watch American web content is stealing as much as putting up an antenna and watching an American TV station is.

Mary Ann Turcke is a brain dead bitch who is trying to intimidate people.

Bell can suck my cold flaccid cock.

I just tweeted that to Bell in two parts.
 

MHz

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Another selfi bloomer? I don't even want to imagine that happens when you shove in into your most used orifice, your azzhole.
 

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It is not the corporate types that get hurt in the end its the writers and filmmakers
Its the authors and music artist. Many in music and book publishing are little guys
independents and skirting copy write does impact them.
I have a book out and I just finished co writing a blues album with a release date
later this month and I don't appreciate people stealing my work if it happens.
It is like someone stealing a carpenters tools
 

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It is not the corporate types that get hurt in the end its the writers and filmmakers
Its the authors and music artist. Many in music and book publishing are little guys
independents and skirting copy write does impact them.
I have a book out and I just finished co writing a blues album with a release date
later this month and I don't appreciate people stealing my work if it happens.
It is like someone stealing a carpenters tools
if I download your blues album I will do it under the screen name, 'lusteal'. ;)