Canada loses almost 20,000 jobs, the biggest drop in eight months

DurkaDurka

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Not every job in a service based economy is in IT or another well-paying discipline. It's not about the handful of people who can make a living out of it, but the social impact of the entire system. That's the problem with people who deride minimum wage workers for not having better jobs. They don't understand that there aren't better jobs, or that our economy requires those low-paying jobs, or that education and hard work doesn't equal success. It's not about your individual achievement. It's the entire system we live in.

I realize that, I'm just saying it's unreasonable to expect a GM sort of wage these days in the manufacturing sector.

As a society, we need to re-align to workforce that doesn't build **** that can be built cheaper elsewhere. The day of $50.00/h to put on a hub cap is over.
 

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Oh I see ... he's the famous Libtard/fuctard/Demdumb/Obamie-Commie?

You're bringing back old memories.
 

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I realize that, I'm just saying it's unreasonable to expect a GM sort of wage these days in the manufacturing sector.

As a society, we need to re-align to workforce that doesn't build **** that can be built cheaper elsewhere. The day of $50.00/h to put on a hub cap is over.

So, our workforce should then start living like Chinese peasants, so that our economy is competitive. Shall we start with you or are you a "knowledge worker" and therefore except?
 

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So, our workforce should then start living like Chinese peasants, so that our economy is competitive. Shall we start with you or are you a "knowledge worker" and therefore except?

I am saying, it's unreasonable to drop out of high school with zero skills and expect a middle class income. I'm sorry but that's reality.

I'm smelling a "you're a 1%" jab. I belong to UNIFOR, not to my liking but ya
 

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Whatever.

I don't know why you bother obsessing. Obama is now in the second half of his final term and you might as well direct your venom at somebody who will actually make a difference to the future, not sour grapes about the last election.

How about applying your energies towards finding a GOP candidate who is isn't a fringe whack job?

Try it on an American forum where they may actually give a feck, too.
 

DurkaDurka

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I don't know why you bother obsessing. Obama is now in the second half of his final term and you might as well direct your venom at somebody who will actually make a difference to the future, not sour grapes about the last election.

How about applying your energies towards finding a GOP candidate who is isn't a fringe whack job?

Try it on an American forum where they may actually give a feck, too.


Why are you such a vile prick?

Seriously, you're a troll.
 

Curious Cdn

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I am saying, it's unreasonable to drop out of high school with zero skills and expect a middle class income. I'm sorry but that's reality.

I'm smelling a "you're a 1%" jab. I belong to UNIFOR, not to my liking but ya

I'm an operations manager/Engineer in a factory in Southern Ontario and I know a great deal about the subject.

I can tell you this. Shifting from a manufacturing economy, with a high level of "value added" to a service sector economy, where we do each other's laundry will leave Canada as a much poorer country again ... back to where we were before the Wars. Baristas don't generate a whole lot of wealth.

Why are you such a vile prick?

Seriously, you're a troll.

You've just come out of the blue and made that statement, which, technically makes you the troll ... and angry, malignant one at that.

The thread is about Canadian jobs. Walter is trying to turn it into a whine about Obama. That is also trolling.
 

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I'm an operations manager/Engineer in a factory in Southern Ontario and I know a great deal about the subject.

I can tell you this. Shifting from a manufacturing economy, with a high level of "value added" to a service sector economy, where we do each other's laundry will leave Canada as a much poorer country again ... back to where we were before the Wars. Baristas don't generate a whole lot of wealth.



You've just come out of the blue and made that statement, which, technically makes you the troll ... and angry, malignant one at that.
I don't know. . . on this board "vile prick" is kind of an honor.

Scuse me, "honour."
 

DurkaDurka

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I'm an operations manager/Engineer in a factory in Southern Ontario and I know a great deal about the subject.

I can tell you this. Shifting from a manufacturing economy, with a high level of "value added" to a service sector economy, where we do each other's laundry will leave Canada as a much poorer country again ... back to where we were before the Wars. Baristas don't generate a whole lot of wealth.



You've just come out of the blue and made that statement, which, technically makes you the troll ... and angry, malignant one at that.

It's great that you can pontificate as you're an engineer and you will never be affected by the "lost jobs" you sob about.

What is this "value added" term you speak of? Are you of the xenophobic persuasion that thinks Mexicans are better bolt turners? Judging from your posts, you would have mad an excellent railway boss.
 

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It's great that you can pontificate as you're an engineer and you will never be affected by the "lost jobs" you sob about.

What is this "value added" term you speak of? Are you of the xenophobic persuasion that thinks Mexicans are better bolt turners? Judging from your posts, you would have mad an excellent railway boss.

Maybe you shoulda smartened yourself up.
 

Curious Cdn

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It's great that you can pontificate as you're an engineer and you will never be affected by the "lost jobs" you sob about.

What is this "value added" term you speak of? Are you of the xenophobic persuasion that thinks Mexicans are better bolt turners? Judging from your posts, you would have mad an excellent railway boss.

If I don't produce, there's another one behind me and I'm out on the street. I don't know where your information comes from ... a Unifor pamphlet, perhaps. Value added comes from activities like starting with ores and ending with cars. Every stage of the process pays a decent living for the layer upon layer of workers who perform the tasks and yield reasonable margins of profit, that genrate all sorts of ancillary activities in all directions.

... or you can buy it from the Chinese, who enrich themselves in the same manner.

p.s. I spent a summer on a railroad Steel Gang (laying continuous weld rail in the early '80's) in Saskatchewan and Alberta. I've never worked so hard in my life.
 

DurkaDurka

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Maybe you shoulda smartened yourself up.

Maybe you should try having a job, instead of lecturing people on what it's like to have one.

If I don't produce, there's another one behind me and I'm out on the street. I don't know where your information comes from ... a Unifor pamphlet, perhaps. Value added comes from activities like starting with ores and ending with cars. Every stage of the process pays a decent living for the layer upon layer of workers who perform the tasks and yield reasonable margins of profit, that genrate all sorts of ancillary activities in all directions.

... or you can buy it from the Chinese, who enrich themselves in the same manner.

Unifor is a terrible union, I have nothing good to say about it. I agree that we should be doing more with what we produce instead of shipping raw goods to be refined elsewhere.