Hillary Clinton to Announce 2016 Run for President on Sunday

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yea clintons have blood on their hands. let's vote bush instead. lolōl

Bush isn't running, is he.. I think Rand Paul has the best ideas.. stay out of the conflict.. he is right up your alley.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cx1Q3_zafY

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I think the last time I read something about that was last week. What news, good sir?

Do you think Hillary violated 18 U.S. Code Section 2071 by concealing her use of a private email account to conduct official business as Secretary of State, and refusing to disclose her concealment until the concealment was discovered independently? Section 2071 states as follows:

"Section 2071 (a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States."
 

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When a government official breaks the law, it only matters if the government wants it to. High government officials have a long history of either breaking the law and being ignored or breaking the law and using twisted technical or semantic justification to get away with it. Whether or not someone breaks the letter of the law depends on whether the state decides to apply it. Laws do not exist outside of their enforcement. Your faith in a technical argument on whether Clinton broke the law is misplaced.

However, she certainly broke the spirit of the law and she did so deliberately. She probably figures she could argue out of it, she won't be held accountable if the election goes her way, or no one will actually care.
 

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http://rt.com/usa/251757-hillary-topple-1percent-populism-credibility/

“There’s something wrong when CEOs make 300 times more than the typical worker. There’s something wrong when American workers keep getting more productive, as they have... but that productivity is not matched in their paychecks,” Clinton said in Monticello, Iowa, last week.

Good words. Too bad she's a bull**** artist. Her campaign is funded by these rich dicks.
 

BaalsTears

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When a government official breaks the law, it only matters if the government wants it to.

Well, that certainly seems more than a little cynical. It elevates the acquisition of power over the rule of law.

High government officials have a long history of either breaking the law and being ignored or breaking the law and using twisted technical or semantic justification to get away with it.

Without the rule of law no polity can pretend to have a democratic or republican form of govt.

Whether or not someone breaks the letter of the law depends on whether the state decides to apply it. Laws do not exist outside of their enforcement.

If true, then the acquisition and maintenance of power is all that matters. If so, then the only reason to support Hillary is factionalism and the desire to use power for partisan advantage.

Your faith in a technical argument on whether Clinton broke the law is misplaced.

It's not a matter of faith. It's simply objective reality.

However, she certainly broke the spirit of the law and she did so deliberately.

I agree.

She probably figures she could argue out of it, she won't be held accountable if the election goes her way, or no one will actually care.

Nothing will happen to her under any set of circumstances. What is important is that the legitimacy of American institutions will continue to erode. Erosion hastens collapse.
 

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This is wrong. I could tell you why in just one sentence, but imagine how much more you'd learn if you bothered to learn something about Fascism yourself.
I think the thesis here is that the Nazis were socialist because they called themselves socialist. Just like the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic, a republic, and for the people. Because they say so.
 

BaalsTears

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I think the thesis here is that the Nazis were socialist because they called themselves socialist. Just like the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic, a republic, and for the people. Because they say so.

It's difficult to raise one's perspective above the political context of one's own time and place isn't it? If one could, one would understand that socialism, populism, and racism were often found on the right in Germany in the aftermath of World War I. In that time and place a form of right wing socialism, later known as fascism, battled in the streets against a form of left wing totalitarianism called communism. Socialism included a wide spectrum of thought from communism to social democracy. None of that changes the fact that a form of socialism was part of the ideology embraced by the National Socialists in Germany between the wars.
 

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Without the rule of law no polity can pretend to have a democratic or republican form of govt.

The United States has done a pretty good job of pretending.

I think the thesis here is that the Nazis were socialist because they called themselves socialist. Just like the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic, a republic, and for the people. Because they say so.

It's an argument so incredibly ignorant that it's hard to believe there's any point in correcting it. But I was commenting on "Fascism is derived from National Socialism". It's odd that the one historical event you might expect these people to know anything about is the second world war, and yet they literally get it backwards.
 

BaalsTears

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The United States has done a pretty good job of pretending.

That was when a mask was worn. The mask has fallen away with the undeniable adoption of a post-constitutional method of governing. Democratic and republican forms of govt. are always temporary, and factionalism is the poison that brings the end into sight.



It's an argument so incredibly ignorant that it's hard to believe there's any point in correcting it. But I was commenting on "Fascism is derived from National Socialism". It's odd that the one historical event you might expect these people to know anything about is the second world war, and yet they literally get it backwards.

Actually, the fusion of a form of socialism with populism and racism under the German Workers Party began in the immediate aftermath of WWI. The German Workers Party was the predecessor of the National Socialist Party in Germany.
 

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Actually, the fusion of a form of socialism with populism and racism under the German Workers Party began in the immediate aftermath of WWI. The German Workers Party was the predecessor of the National Socialist Party in Germany.

Yeah, but that's not the point is it?
 

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Bush isn't running, is he..

I thought Jeb was going to take a crack at it- he'd be the best candidate I think with Daddy and Big Bro. to guide him!

Clinton calls for ?toppling? 1 percenters as critics question her populist bona fides ? RT USA

There’s something wrong when CEOs make 300 times more than the typical worker. There’s something wrong when American workers keep getting more productive, as they have... but that productivity is not matched in their paychecks,” Clinton said in Monticello, Iowa, last week.

Go.

Yeah, drastically- it's criminal at the very least. When I first stated in the work force the top of the pyramid was 7 times the rank and file wage.

you were loving jeb bush a week ago, lol.

Who in their right mind wouldn't?
 

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The United States has done a pretty good job of pretending.



It's an argument so incredibly ignorant that it's hard to believe there's any point in correcting it. But I was commenting on "Fascism is derived from National Socialism". It's odd that the one historical event you might expect these people to know anything about is the second world war, and yet they literally get it backwards.
Not only that, but the period they adore with such fervor is the period when the United States was closest to authoritarian socialism. Government control of resources. Wages fixed. Prices fixed. People couldn't quit their jobs without permission. Massive conscription. Rationing.
 

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Not only that, but the period they adore with such fervor is the period when the United States was closest to authoritarian socialism. Government control of resources. Wages fixed. Prices fixed. People couldn't quit their jobs without permission. Massive conscription. Rationing.

Yeah, the road to hell all began with FDR's New Deal, and continued with LBJ's Great Society.
 

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Strolling through the Garden of Good and Evil are we?

Using people for fun and profit is one of the ways the world works when people are not able to rise above their fear and greed. But there is something more important than fun and profit. Consciousness and awareness. There are different levels of consciousness. The greater one's awareness and consciousness the less likely one is to do evil to others because it diminishes what some would call the soul.

Your dreams are not as empty as your conscience seems to be. Behind Blue Eyes.

do you recognize satire?
 

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As has been stated "I was commenting on 'Fascism is derived from National Socialism.'"

That might be what you think, but there isn't much of a connection.

Not only that, but the period they adore with such fervor is the period when the United States was closest to authoritarian socialism. Government control of resources. Wages fixed. Prices fixed. People couldn't quit their jobs without permission. Massive conscription. Rationing.

Get your government hands off my Medicare!