USS Roosevelt Visits the UK. Brits In Awe

[EagleSmack]

WHAT! That's what passes as a warship there?


Well... as you can see by the comments of your countrymen and women ( ) they are getting an education.

 

[Blackleaf]

She'll be busy the next few days.

She certainly looks the sort.

Of course it is rare... you don't have many warships.

We've got 56 currently active, more than most countries.

This dwarfs our future aircraft carrier

It dwarfs most carriers. However, the new Queen Elizabeth-class carriers' placement is 70,600 tons, making them the third largest supercarrier class in service in the world, after the United States' Gerald R. Ford (first expected in 2015) and Nimitz classes.

Outside the United States Navy (which a Brit invented) - which operates too many carriers and which are too large (its carriers should be smaller) - the new Queen Elizabeth-class carriers are the largest carriers on Earth.

and is nuclear powered but our isn't

The MoD decided not to go for nuclear propulsion due to its high costs.

and will need tankers escorting it

Bull****

RASs are, however, common things at sea.

Four new Tide-class tankers are being built for the Royal Fleet Auxiliary for this purpose: RFA Tidespring, RFA Tiderace, RFA Tidesurge and RFA Tideforce.

However, as the carriers will be powered electrically, with the fuel needed merely to power two Rolls-Royce Marine Trent MT30 36 MW (48,000 hp) gas turbine generator units and four Wärtsilä diesel generator sets (two 9 MW or 12,000 hp and two 11 MW or 15,000 hp sets), they won't have to be refuelled as often, and this will help them operationally.

but with no planes it won't need to go any where !!~

angelfun, Lincoln

The Ministry of Defence has ordered 48 F-35Bs so far for the new carriers, but could yet order more. Each carrier will be capable of carrying 50 aircraft in total.

Now stop posting posts from people who think they're experts on aircraft carriers but aren't.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

She certainly looks the sort.

Which is presumably why you'd do her. Enjoy your sloppy sixteenths.

It dwarfs most carriers. However, the new Queen Elizabeth-class carriers' placement 70,600 tons, making them the third largest supercarrier class in service in the world, after the United States' Gerald R. Ford (first expected in 2015) and Nimitz classes.

There ya go. With the U.S. taking gold and silver, bronze ain't completely pathetic. Unless you insist it's gold.

The Ministry of Defence has ordered 48 F-35Bs so far for the new carriers, but could yet order more. Each carrier will be capable of carrying 50 aircraft in total.

So much more powerful than the Lincoln's 90.

 

[Blackleaf]

Which is presumably why you'd do her.

Too right, I would.

There ya go. With the U.S. taking gold and silver, bronze ain't completely pathetic. Unless you insist it's gold.

Not when operating supercarriers is highly unusual in the world, with the US operating the vast majority of them.

Remember that when it comes to operating many large aircraft carriers, the US is an aberration. No other country does it. You have too many of them.

 

[EagleSmack]

Not when operating supercarriers is highly unusual in the world, with the US operating the vast majority of them.

Remember that when it comes to operating many large aircraft carriers, the US is an aberration. No other country does it. You have too many of them.

We have too many! lol

I think the uk needs a lend of a few of these for sure.~ daidark, Swansea

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Plain envy and anger... as your countrymen are saying over and over.

Gee, we're too big to get into your cute little country! Oh the shame - no wonder the Americans laugh at our pathetic armed forces.~ Chris N, Bristol

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Yet ANOTHER computer rendering of the RN!

The MoD decided not to go for nuclear propulsion due to its high costs.
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Non nuclear! What is it powered by...coal? Now you are going to have tankers glued to the side of it if it ever gets free from the pier.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Non nuclear! What is it powered by...coal? Now you are going to have tankers glued to the side of it if it ever gets free from the pier.

Well, they were gonna go with sails in the great Royal Navy tradition, but they're having trouble making the masts and the flight deck work together.

 

[Blackleaf]

We have too many! lol

You have too many carriers and they are way too big.

I think the uk needs a lend of a few of these for sure.

Why? We're building our own.

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Plain envy and anger...

By a few numpties who have no idea what they're talking about.

as your countrymen are saying over and over.

Only some of those posting on MailOnline.

Yet ANOTHER computer rendering of the RN!

They won't be computer rendered when they're built.

Non nuclear! What is it powered by...coal?

No. They're to be powered by electricity.

Now you are going to have tankers glued to the side of it

Do you not read anything I write? Being under electric propulsion, with the electricity generated from turbines, the new carriers will not have to be refuelled as often, which will be a big benefit to them operationally.

 

[EagleSmack]

You have too many carriers and they are way too big.

What a silly statement. Your countrymen are in awe and quite embarrassed.

The US has TEN of these. Yes - TEN. And currently we have. . . . . None !~ Fed up, Gravesend

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I've heard it said that our Royal Navy are to get some new Pedalos to bolster our fleet and there to be armed with the latest catapults and pea shooters Now that'll be a force to be reckoned with!~ farm38, Preston

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A pedalos...

Do you not read anything I write? Being under electric propulsion, with the electricity generated from turbines, the new carriers will not have to be refuelled as often, which will be a big benefit to them operationally.

A big benefit is not having to be refueled at all. Geez. No wonder why the USS Lincoln has created such an uproar.

 

[Sons of Liberty]

The Royal Navy ranks fifth in the world and continues its downward spiral as no funds are made available to expand it. F*ck what BL says, he's in his own world.

 

[Blackleaf]

The Royal Navy ranks fifth in the world and continues its downward spiral as no funds are made available to expand it. F*ck what BL says, he's in his own world.

The Royal Navy is the only true Blue Water navy on the planet other than the United States Navy (which a Brit invented).

 

[EagleSmack]

What a sad state.

A lot more impressive than our tiny shoestring tinpot navy. We have more admirals than we have ships. Even the new carriers are a bit of a joke - we had free range to design a great carrier and what did the MoD produce? An over budget mess that doesn't have angled flight decks, flying the F-35B that has half the range and costs twice as much as the far better F-35C and a ship doesn't have anything like the hitting power of these Nimitz class carriers. Our ships won't even have planes for years - they will steam the world with nothing on them because of MoD bungling.~ Benny, London


Envy... Admire...

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The Royal Navy is the only true Blue Water navy on the planet other than the United States Navy

Sure... as long as you exclude China, Russia, India and France.

Geez.

 

[Blackleaf]

Sure... as long as you exclude China, Russia, India and France.

Geez.

Bullcrap. None of those have Blue Water navies, with the possible exception, maybe, of France.

A blue-water navy is a maritime force capable of operating across the deep waters of open oceans. A term more often used in the United Kingdom to describe such a force is a navy possessing maritime expeditionary capabilities.

Only the USN, RN and probably France's "la Marine nationale" (although it doesn't quite have the capabilities of the other two) are true Blue Water navies.

There are only two (the USN and RN) and possibly three (if you include la Marine nationale) navies on the planet which are truly global. All the rest, including China and Russia, are merely local, not venturing too far from home.

 

[EagleSmack]

Bullcrap. None of those have Blue Water navies, with the possible exception, maybe, of France.

Only the USN, RN and probably "la Marine nationale" are true Blue Water navies.

Sigh...

Blue-water navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To even leave Russia off the least shows how little you know. The Russians patrol your coast.

 

[Blackleaf]

Sigh...

Blue-water navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nope. I have to disagree with you there. Only the USN, RN and possibly the French are the only true Blue Water navies.

And, even if you DO count China and Russia, and maybe India, they still do not possess the capabilities that the RN possesses.

 

[EagleSmack]

Russian Navy enters the English Channel | Plymouth Herald

A RUSSIAN task force has entered the English Channel, met by a Royal Navy warship.

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Seven Russian ships met by ONE from the RN. How embarrassing.

 

[Blackleaf]

Russian Navy enters the English Channel | Plymouth Herald

A RUSSIAN task force has entered the English Channel, met by a Royal Navy warship.

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Seven Russian ships met by ONE from the RN. How embarrassing.

That one Type 45 destroyer could probably destroy all seven of those Russian ships at the same time, especially if it went into its destructive angry mode.

And Russia does not have the global naval presence that the Royal Navy has, and if you don't think that you need to be shot.

 

[EagleSmack]

Nope. I have to disagree with you there. Only the USN, RN and possibly the French are the only true Blue Water navies.

Disagree all you want. You're still wrong.

And, even if you DO count China and Russia, and maybe India, they still do not possess the capabilities that the RN possesses.

See post above. Sailed right through the English Channel.

Minister for the Armed Forces Mark Francois said: "This routine action by HMS Dragon, in her capacity as the Fleet Ready Escort, once again underlines the professionalism and credibility of the Royal Navy in keeping the whole of the UK secure at and from the sea." YEAH RIGHT 1 boat against 7 Who does he think he is convincing. Thank god it wasnt real!!! We would be foubard~ i am rebel

i am rebel is right.

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[Blackleaf]

Disagree all you want. You're still wrong.

Yes. I WILL disagree.

And even if the Chinks and the Russkies do now possess Blue Water capablities, they're only just there and still way behind the British and probably still behind the Frogs. They do not yet possess truly global navies with a global presence like the British have had for centuries.

Sailed right through the English Channel.

And? The English Channel is the world's busiest shipping lane.

 

[EagleSmack]

That one Type 45 destroyer could probably destroy all seven of those Russian ships at the same time.

And Russia does not have the global naval presence that the Royal Navy has, and if you don't think that you need to be shot.

The RN has no presence of any significance and that Russian ship has more power than the whole RN. No wonder why the Brits breathed easy when the USS Lincoln showed up.

What have the Russians got to counteract this? Only ONE obsolete aircraft carrier, that is 20 years out-of-date.~ justskeptical, London

Should see the Russians off.~ Gladiatrix, Londinium

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Yes. I WILL disagree.

And even if the Chinks and the Russkies do now possess Blue Water capablities, they're only just there and still way behind the British and probably still behind the Frogs. They do not yet possess truly global navies with a global presence like the British have had for centuries.

They do and you're wrong.

And the RN no longer has a global presence any longer.


Ooh look! They have got aircraft on their aircraft carriers!~ lostolwilliam, Ferndown Dorset

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Stand by mushers, your females are about to experience American charm.~ last post, UK

the response...

And they will be out in their hordes to experience that charm, as always~ regal, Wellington


Yes... as always... and in hordes.

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[Blackleaf]

The RN has no presence of any significance

It has a global presence, and has had one for a lot longer than the United States Navy has. Now there's a stat that you might like to digest.

and that Russian ship has more power than the whole RN.

It doesn't have more power than that Type 45 escorting it, which is the most powerful destroyer and most advanced warship on the planet.

What have the Russians got to counteract this? Only ONE obsolete aircraft carrier, that is 20 years out-of-date.~ justskeptical, London

And that's the all-conquering, Blue Water Russian Navy, is it?

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They do and you're wrong.

And the RN no longer has a global presence any longer.

The RN has a global presence and has had a global presence since before the USN was even invented.

The Russian Navy does not possess a true global presence like the RN. Russian ships usually don't tend to venture too far from Russia.

The Royal Navy also has hunter-killer submarines circling the globe.

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