Over half of Republicans want to make Christianity national religion

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The message on the American greenback is a mistranslation of "Ingot wheat rust."

I love how Christians and Muslims argue why their particular interpretation of a Jewish Gawd borrowed from the Sumerians along the way is the correct one. Personally, if we really thought about it, we would acknowledge Thor as the legitimate god. Hey, it's not rocket science.
 

lifeblood

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I nominate Baal as the one true God.



Baal is god of pederasty (boy rape), catamites (male prostitution), phallic worship, incest, and bestiality


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In Sexuality and Homosexuality, historian Arno Karlen writes of homosexual cults throughout the ancient world: “‘male temple prostitutes’—existed among the devotees of Ishtar and Astarte in Syria, the Albanians and Babylonians, the Canaanite neighbors of the ancient Hebrews, and in Cos, Crete and Ephesus in the Greek world” (Karlen:6).
The ancient religion of Baal, familiar to students of the Bible as the set of beliefs and practices which so often corrupted Hebrew society in history, was one such cult. Worshippers of Baal “‘built for themselves high places and pillars, and Asherim (phallic poles used to honor the goddess of fertility) on every high hill and under every green tree; and there were also male cult prostitutes in the land’” (quotation from 1 Kings 14 in Karlen:9). Reference to these practices is found in several places in the Bible, notably Deuteronomy 23:17-18: “There shall be no ritual harlot of the daughters of Israel, or a perverted one of the sons of Israel. You shall not bring the wages of a harlot or the price of a dog [male prostitute] to the house of the LORD your God for any vowed offering, for both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God” (NKJ).
The Baal cult survived into Roman times and figured prominently in the infamous debaucheries of the Roman emperors in the first centuries after Christ. Karlen writes,

98 Homo-Occultism

It was in association with such cults that emperors’ deviance became most flagrant. Commodus, who took the throne in 180, appeared in public dressed as a woman and was strangled by a catamitic [homosexual] favorite; Hadrian deified his homosexual lover Antious. But neither matched Elegabalus, who began his rule at the age of fourteen in 218, after having been raised in Syria as a priest of Baal. He entered Rome amid Syrian priests and eunuchs, dressed in silks, his cheeks painted scarlet and his eyes made up. Various Roman historians say that he assembled the homosexuals of Rome and addressed them garbed as a boy prostitute; put on a wig and solicited at the door of a brothel; tried to get doctors to turn him into a woman; offered himself for buggery while playing the role of Venus in a court mime; kissed his male favorites’ genitals in public and, like Nero, formally married one of them...Elegabalus erected in Rome the great phallic asherim which the Hebrew kings had kept trying to purge from their land (Karlen:62).



Asherim
phallic icon worshipped by baalites





Baal has sex with his mother Asherah,6 his sister Anat, and his daughter Pidray,7 Killing the Canaanites: A Response to the New Atheism’s “Divine Genocide� Claims - Christian Research Institute




Baal and bestiality “The Baal Cycle” we learn: “Mightiest Baal hears / He makes love with a heifer in the outback / A cow in the field of Death’s Realm. / He lies with her seventy times seven / Mounts eighty times eight / [She conceiv]es and bears a boy.”20



Baal is every form of deviation prohibited in the Holy Bible.
 

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You can't legislate belief. But little acknowledged now, is the that Christianity is the seminal seed of Western Civilization. When that falls, so will the West, and we are well on that path. And the U.S.. as the product of the Enlightenment skepticism of religion is general, is particularly vulnerable to that.
 

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The message on the American greenback is a mistranslation of "Ingot wheat rust."

I love how Christians and Muslims argue why their particular interpretation of a Jewish Gawd borrowed from the Sumerians along the way is the correct one. Personally, if we really thought about it, we would acknowledge Thor as the legitimate god. Hey, it's not rocket science.
Thor is the true gawd because he promised to rid the world of Ice Giants. Do you see any Ice Giants left on Earth? No! The War God of the dessert (Jehovah) promised to rid the world of sin. Do you still see sin in the world? According to his believers the world is riddled in sin, so he in an ineffective god at best.

You can't legislate belief. But little acknowledged now, is the that Christianity is the seminal seed of Western Civilization. When that falls, so will the West, and we are well on that path.
You say that as if it is a bad thing. Western civilization is the most destructive force of Earth and is, thankfully, self destructing like every other civilization before it. I see that as a good thing.
 

coldstream

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You say that as if it is a bad thing. Western civilization is the most destructive force of Earth and is, thankfully, self destructing like every other civilization before it. I see that as a good thing.

Right, maybe we should hand things over to ISIS, who represent a branch of Islam uncorrupted by Western thought. Or maybe Hinduism would suffice with its class system and systematic slavery and moribund economies. Or may Buddhism, which has invariably produced societies berefit of scientific and economic vigour.

The Republicans don't realize they are proposing something that is in direct contravention of the Deist principles of their Founding Fathers. The U.S. is the purest product of the Enlightenment's skepticism of religion.

America is, then, most vulnerable to Christianity's collapse because of the contradictions of its origins to those of the founding principles of the Christian West. Without Christianity the West becomes an empty balloon of sophistry, hypocrisy and pagan ritual.
 

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Right, maybe we should hand things over to ISIS, who represent a branch of Islam uncorrupted by Western thought. Or maybe Hinduism would suffice with its class system and systematic slavery and moribund economies. Or may Buddhism, which has invariably produced societies berefit of scientific and economic vigour.

The Republicans don't realize they are proposing something that is in direct contravention of the Deist principles of their Founding Fathers. The U.S. is the purest product of the Enlightenment's skepticism of religion.

America is, then, most vulnerable to Christianity's collapse because of the contradictions of its origins to those of the founding principles of the Christian West. Without Christianity the West becomes an empty balloon of sophistry, hypocrisy and pagan ritual.
Good thing there's no sophistry, hypocrisy, or pagan ritual in Christianity!

Here, have an Easter egg while you go kill in the name of a god of love.
 

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From Time Magazine:-


"American religiosity is rapidly declining, but it's no surprise that this trend is met with resistance and fear.


Atheists are one of the fastest growing groups in the world. At the same time, the latest Pew poll shows that they’re the most distrusted group in America, and Americans would be less likely to support a Godless presidential candidate than an unfaithful or a pot-smoking one.

These trends don’t contradict each other in the slightest, and I’d argue that the mistrust is both a consequence and a cause of the rapid decline of religiosity in the U.S. Atheism is gaining, steadily and sometimes with remarkable rapidity, and it’s not at all surprising that this rise meets resistance and fear.'

Atheists seem to be in the same place gays were in 20 years ago. What a difference nowadays. Gay parades abound. I don't know what atheist parades would be like, can't seem to picture them at all. LOL.

Kind of puts the Republicans way out of touch of those other than the believers of Christianity's heaven and hell crowd.
 
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DaSleeper

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From Time Magazine:-


"American religiosity is rapidly declining, but it's no surprise that this trend is met with resistance and fear.


Atheists are one of the fastest growing groups in the world. At the same time, the latest Pew poll shows that they’re the most distrusted group in America, and Americans would be less likely to support a Godless presidential candidate than an unfaithful or a pot-smoking one.

These trends don’t contradict each other in the slightest, and I’d argue that the mistrust is both a consequence and a cause of the rapid decline of religiosity in the U.S. Atheism is gaining, steadily and sometimes with remarkable rapidity, and it’s not at all surprising that this rise meets resistance and fear.'

Atheists seem to be in the same place gays were in 20 years ago. What a difference nowadays. Gay parades abound. I don't know what atheist parades would be like, can't seem to picture them at all. LOL.
The header of the link you keep forgeting to post Even an Increasingly Godless America Doesn’t Trust an Atheist to Run the Country
 

bluebyrd35

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The header of the link you keep forgeting to post Even an Increasingly Godless America Doesn’t Trust an Atheist to Run the Country
So, forgetting the header of a link makes it less true??

The header simply puts the word stress on "Godless" as though it makes for a lesser standard of morality. It infers that an atheist or an agnostic can not possibly have a better standard of morality than one who believes in a system that will exonerate any wrong as long as they believe!.

In Canada, the increase in non-believers over the last two decades runs very much higher. Last poll claims 47% of Canadians are either Atheists or Agnostics. Some do accept there "may" be a universal spirit. There is no fear of an invisible deity's punishment for a more sensible belief in the basic moral standards the human race has developed making morality a personal responsibility.
 

DaSleeper

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Link?
Are we supposed to believe all you post (with the poor reading comprehension that you have shown in the past?) You only paraphrase your bias
That's just as bad as Flossy skipping paragraph that don't agree with his view...
 

DaSleeper

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47%? Atheists? Bullshyte

Self-Identified Religious Affiliations in Canada[57][58][59][60]

1991
number
1991
%
2001
number
2001
%
% change
(in numbers)
2011
number
2011
%
Christian
22,468,260
83
22,799,645
77
+1.5
22,102,700
67.3
Catholic
12,335,255
45.7
12,936,905
43.6
+4.8
12,728,900
38.7
Protestant
9,427,675
34.9
8,654,850
29.2
−8.2

United Church of Canada
3,093,120
11.3
2,839,125
9.5
−8.2
2,007,600
6.1
Anglican Church of Canada
2,188,110
8.0
2,035,495
6.8
−7.0
1,631,800
5.0
Baptist
663,360
2.4
729,475
2.4
+10.0

1.9
Lutheran
636,205
2.3
606,590
2.0
−4.7

Presbyterian
636,295
2.3
409,830
1.4
−35.6

Pentecostal
436,435
1.6
369,475
1.2
−15.3

Mennonite
207,970
0.8
191,465
0.6
−7.9

Jehovah's Witnesses
168,375
0.6
154,745
0.5
−8.1

Methodist
83,910
0.3
106,545
0.4
+27.0

Mormon
100,770
0.4
104,750
0.3
+3.9

Salvation Army
112,345
0.4
87,785
0.3
−21.9

Christian Reformed Church in North America
84,685
0.3
76,665
0.3
−9.5

Christian and Missionary Alliance
59,365
0.2
66,280
0.2
+11.9

Adventists
52,365
0.2
62,875
0.2
+20.1

Christian Orthodox
387,395
1.4
479,620
1.6
+23.8
550,700
1.7
Greek Orthodox
231,965
0.9
215,200
0.7
−7.1
220,300

– Christian, not included elsewhere¹
353,040
1.3
780,450
2.6
+121.1

4.5
Other religion
1,148,060
4.3
1,988,635
6.7
+73.2
2,373,700
7.2
Muslim
253,265
0.9
579,640
2.0
+128.9
1,053,945
3.2
Hindu
157,015
0.6
297,200
1.0
+89.3
498,000
1.5
Sikh
147,440
0.5
278,410
0.9
+88.8
455,000
1.4
Buddhist
163,415
0.6
300,345
1.0
+83.8
366,800
1.1
Jewish
318,185
1.2
329,995
1.1
+3.7
329,500
1.0
No religion
3,397,000
12.6
4,900,095
16.5
+44.2
7,850,600
23.9


If you look at the 2011 census 23. 9 percent self identify as no religion
I would expect that this would inlude those who wrote (None of your business) as I did..... which is a long way from your 47% which I suspect you pulled out of your <cough cough> hmmm hair>


Be a good girl and post a link like I'm doing...
Demographics of Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Damn it won't CP in format which is why you should supply a link
 
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eh1eh

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the state has no business in my bedroom or my place (or lack of it) of worship.

swearing on a bible, making people say 'God' for any reason to 'prove something or another or saying God Bless America (as if God cares any more about America than the next place) after every lame political speech should stop.

believe what you want but making something like religion almost compulsory ain't the thing to do.

the barry manilow shrine in my closet should be safe and sound.

Yes really!.
National religion. They have that somewhere don't they?
Oh yes that's right, in the caliphate formed by ISIS.
America is just like ISIS.
Oh the bitter irony.
 

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Over half of Republicans want to ignore Bill of Rights, make Christianity national religion



America's Founding Fathers may have explicitly banned the formation of a national religion, but don’t tell that to Republican Christians. A poll found that over half of the religious right wants to establish Christianity as the country’s official creed.

When asked if they supported “establishing Christianity as the national religion,” 57 percent of the Republicans surveyed told Public Policy Polling (PPP) that they were in favor. Three in ten opposed turning the US into a theocracy, while 13 percent were unsure.

The Bill of Rights expressly prohibits the government from promoting one religion over others: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” the Constitution’s First Amendment states.

Women were more likely to support the official establishment of Christianity in the US, with two-thirds – 66 percent – responding “yes” to the question, while less than half the men surveyed – 49 percent – chose that option.



“It’s convenient that Republicans are so willing to ignore the Bill of Rights when it conflicts with any aspect of Christianity, but if you even for one minute mention any form of gun control, then you’re trying to destroy the Constitution and ruin America,” Amy Eddings wrote for Ring of Fire Radio.

Science fared even worse than the First Amendment. The poll’s finding “supports the growing perception liberals have of conservatives,” meaning Republicans are “anti-science Christian theocrats,” the New Civil Rights Movement wrote.

Those Republican primary voters who identified as members of the Tea Party were less likely to believe in evolution – only 27 percent were fans of Charles Darwin’s theory – than the 46 percent who believe in evolution and did not identify as part of the ideological group. Overall, 37 percent of those surveyed believe in the theory, with less than half – 49 percent – disbelieving. A majority of Tea Party members – 61 percent – said they don’t accept the theory of evolution.

When it came to global warming, only a quarter of respondents said they believe in climate change, while two-thirds – 66 percent – do not. Self-identified Tea Party members were vehemently against the scientific phenomenon, with 91 percent being so-called “climate deniers.”

Women were more likely to believe in global warming, at 30 percent. Only 20 percent of men agreed. Meanwhile, women were less likely to believe in evolution – 30 percent, compared to 43 percent of males.



Along with political polling, PPP is known for asking off-beat questions in its surveys. In 2013, the company announced that about 13 percent of Americans believe Obama is the anti-Christ, nearly 30 percent believe in aliens, and four percent believe lizard people control the US.

That same survey also asked about climate change, finding that 51 percent of Americans believed in global warming, while 37 percent said the whole idea is a hoax. This margin was particularly high among Republicans, of which 58 percent said climate change is a made-up phenomenon.

PPP, a Democratic-leaning firm, surveyed 316 Republican primary voters from February 20-22. The margin of error was 5.5 percentage points. The survey also asked questions about potential primary candidates and the favorability of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

source: http://rt.com/usa/235567-republican-survey-christianity-national-religion/

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I for one would agree with making Christianity a national religion in both Canada and the USA

Just say'in.

Ya know RT is a Moscow mouthpiece?
 

B00Mer

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Yes really!.
National religion. They have that somewhere don't they?
Oh yes that's right, in the caliphate formed by ISIS.
America is just like ISIS.
Oh the bitter irony.

According to some on this Web Forum, like MegaButtHurtz, ISIS was formed by America.. :lol:

So I guess a Christian Theocracy sounds good on this Continent. ;)

Just my personal opinion..

Well, given Boom's crush on Putin, it's not surprising he'd regard Putin Broadcasting as Da Troof!

He's my hero t-bones..