Secularist groups to seek end of Canada’s blasphemy law

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The heads of two Canadian organizations promoting secularism will ask the Department of Justice to abolish a section of the criminal code that makes blasphemy illegal, following Wednesday’s attacks on Charlie Hebdo.


Section 296 of the Criminal Code makes “blasphemous libel” punishable by up to two years in jail in Canada.


No one been prosecuted under the law since 1935. As late as 1980, the law was used to charge the Canadian distributor of Monty Python’s film Life of Brian; the charges were later dropped.


Only last month, the heads of Humanist Canada and the Centre for Inquiry, a national organization that promotes “skeptical, secular rational and humanistic inquiry,” met with Ambassador Andrew Bennett, head of the federal government’s Office of Religious Freedom, to note the law’s inconsistency with Canada’s policy of supporting religious freedom abroad.


On Mr. Bennett’s advice, said Eric Adriaans, national executive director of the Centre for Inquiry, the two organizations will lobby the Department of Justice to remove the law. Mr. Bennett’s office did not respond to calls for comment.


“These murders cause us so much grief but also further convince us that no remnants of these ancient attitudes can be allowed to continue,” Mr. Adriaans said.


Meanwhile, Canada’s law has expanded in application beyond Christianity, to religion in general. The Canadian law was first used in 1892 and was originally intended to protect Christianity from blasphemy. Case law since then has broadened its application.


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Good idea. Getting an archaic, unenforced law off the books should occupy the annoying whiners for a few years.
"Good idea" is right, as for the relavence, the age or how often it is used could easily be compared to proposed laws to drastically reduce civil liberties. I'm sure that would get you puckered.
 

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"Good idea" is right, as for the relavence, the age or how often it is used could easily be compared to proposed laws to drastically reduce civil liberties. I'm sure that would get you puckered.
There are thousands of such laws on the books in the U.S. For example, in Chicago it is illegal to appear in public if you are "so deformed as to be disgusting." In Ohio, it's illegal to take a bath on Sunday. In two states it is specifically permitted to kill groups of Indians (three or five, depending) as a "war party."

I ain't exactly jumping up and down over any of 'em.
 

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If the Muslim faith and muslim extremism is going to continue to rise , then maybe this is good law to remove now.
 

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Generally speaking, Humanists are idiots.

But they are correct in this case.

Canada should not have any law against blasphemy.

There are thousands of such laws on the books in the U.S. For example, in Chicago it is illegal to appear in public if you are "so deformed as to be disgusting." In Ohio, it's illegal to take a bath on Sunday. In two states it is specifically permitted to kill groups of Indians (three or five, depending) as a "war party."

I ain't exactly jumping up and down over any of 'em.

Yeah.

The problem with democracy is the legislatures are constantly looking to up their profile by passing more regulations and more laws.

It would be so much more productive if they spent a few years going through their versions of the criminal code throwing out laws..........

If the Muslim faith and muslim extremism is going to continue to rise , then maybe this is good law to remove now.

Yeah.....that too. :)
 

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Generally speaking, Humanists are idiots.

But they are correct in this case.

Canada should not have any law against blasphemy.
I agree basically. My only criticism is whether this code-book relic is worth the effort to remove. And I conclude that the effort to remove it is probably the greatest contribution to Canadian society that Humanism Canada can make. So they should go for it.



Yeah.

The problem with democracy is the legislatures are constantly looking to up their profile by passing more regulations and more laws.

It would be so much more productive if they spent a few years going through their versions of the criminal code throwing out laws..........
Not a bad idea. I'd be willing to fund a commission to recommend striking stupid laws. On one condition. The commission has six months, then terminates.
 

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There are thousands of such laws on the books in the U.S. For example, in Chicago it is illegal to appear in public if you are "so deformed as to be disgusting." In Ohio, it's illegal to take a bath on Sunday. In two states it is specifically permitted to kill groups of Indians (three or five, depending) as a "war party."

I ain't exactly jumping up and down over any of 'em.

These laws are still on the books and are they usable? If someone kills a group of Indians because they felt they were a "war Party" would they be able to use this law as a defense?
 

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These laws are still on the books and are they usable? If someone kills a group of Indians because they felt they were a "war Party" would they be able to use this law as a defense?
A court would have to decide. I'd argue that the law, as old and irrelevant as it is, is still the law of the state, and the court may not ignore the duly enacted laws.

Then, when the state appealed to get the kill-Induns law declared unConstitutional (which it is) and tried to re-try my client, I'd claim double jeopardy.

Could work. Stranger things happen every day in U.S. courts.
 

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Somewhere I heard recently about No Go places in Europe. The source was not necessarily a good source but when I type it into google, there are many Op Eds that come up with this theme.

Is this something to be concerned about?


A court would have to decide. I'd argue that the law, as old and irrelevant as it is, is still the law of the state, and the court may not ignore the duly enacted laws.

Then, when the state appealed to get the kill-Induns law declared unConstitutional (which it is) and tried to re-try my client, I'd claim double jeopardy.

Could work. Stranger things happen every day in U.S. courts.

Law is weird. It seems to be just another version of spin doctoring. Almost Olympic spin doctoring. They should have a contest. Law Games. A fantastical debating with a trophy and money for being the best at convincing a panel of people of something so ludacris that had they heard it in a coffee shop they'd sputter their coffee in incredulity.
 

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Somewhere I heard recently about No Go places in Europe. The source was not necessarily a good source but when I type it into google, there are many Op Eds that come up with this theme.

Is this something to be concerned about?




Law is weird. It seems to be just another version of spin doctoring. Almost Olympic spin doctoring. They should have a contest. Law Games. A fantastical debating with a trophy and money for being the best at convincing a panel of people of something so ludacris that had they heard it in a coffee shop they'd sputter their coffee in incredulity.
They do. I spend a fair amount of time judging moot court competitions, arbitration competitions, mediation competitions, &c. That's why I'm going to Paris in Feb. You can bet your sweet there ain't no other reason to go to Paris in Feb.
 

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A court would have to decide. I'd argue that the law, as old and irrelevant as it is, is still the law of the state, and the court may not ignore the duly enacted laws.

Then, when the state appealed to get the kill-Induns law declared unConstitutional (which it is) and tried to re-try my client, I'd claim double jeopardy.

Could work. Stranger things happen every day in U.S. courts.

Absolutely.

The law is an ***.

But you must admit, the Feds would move in and try the perpetrators for denying the Natives civil rights.
 

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Not a bad idea. I'd be willing to fund a commission to recommend striking stupid laws. On one condition. The commission has six months, then terminates.

Could we not simply address one old law every time parliament congregate together?
Make it part of our every day political process.
And slowly but surely keep or remove these old dinosaurs laws.

Like a parliamentary housekeeping process?
 

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They do. I spend a fair amount of time judging moot court competitions, arbitration competitions, mediation competitions, &c. That's why I'm going to Paris in Feb. You can bet your sweet there ain't no other reason to go to Paris in Feb.

ok, that's just awesome. too bad it wasn't held in say...april. Springtime in Paris....lovely.