Easily misunderstood part of the Bible (Luke 14:25-26)

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How are the elderly treated by Hindus?
How are Honor Killings looked upon?
How ivan you justify the Caste system.
What is the relationship between being vegetarian as you stated many Hindus are, and the mass ritualistic slaughter of animals to the Gods?

Elderly Abandoned at World's Largest Religious Festival

Anshu Malviya, an Allahabad-based social worker, confirmed that both men and women have been abandoned during the religious event, though it has happened more often to elderly widows. Numbers are hard to come by, since many people genuinely become separated from their groups in the crowd, and those who have been abandoned may not admit it. But Malviya estimates that dozens of people are deliberately abandoned during a Maha Kumbh Mela, at a very rough guess.

To a foreigner, it seems puzzling that these people are not capable of finding their own way home. Malviya smiles. "If you were Indian," he said, "you wouldn't be puzzled. Often they have never left their homes. They are not educated, they don't work. A lot of the time they don't even know which district their village is in."

Animal sacrifice in Hinduism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From your own link. The majority of Hindus do not practice animal sacrifice. It is done by a small sect of Sakta followers.

It is a ritual that is practiced today and is mentioned in Medieval Hinduism too. It is important to note that the practice of animal sacrifice is not a required ritual in Hinduism. The majority of practicing Hindus today choose not to participate in or acknowledge the practice.[9] Adherents of the Sakta sect off Hinduism hold this to be a central tenet of their belief.[10]

The caste system is a classification of people by trade and occupation. You sure wouldn't want a sanitary/sewage worker handling your food. There isnt as erasy path to upward mobility so one is caught up in the trade/occupation he is born into. But education can change all that.

Honor killing is just that, children have to honor and obey their parents. In the west the children just run away, take to drugs and prostitution. Over 50% for couples end up in divorce, many joining the ranks on welfare, poverty, destitute and crime. Hardly an improvement. Choosing long suffering to something more immediate.

But militarily and in GFP ranking India ranks 4th compared to Canada's 16th place. India is also a nuclear power country.

Most of the street signs are in English a throwback from the British rule. Villagers are not forced to learn English but are taught in their native tongue. There are many 100 languages spoken in India. Most English speaking Canadian would be lost in french speaking Quebec. Ironically it is Quebec that wants to separate from the rest of Canada. A failure in Canadian nationalism.
 

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From your own link. The majority of Hindus do not practice animal sacrifice. It is done by a small sect of Sakta followers.

It is a ritual that is practiced today and is mentioned in Medieval Hinduism too. It is important to note that the practice of animal sacrifice is not a required ritual in Hinduism. The majority of practicing Hindus today choose not to participate in or acknowledge the practice.[9] Adherents of the Sakta sect off Hinduism hold this to be a central tenet of their belief.[10]

The caste system is a classification of people by trade and occupation. You sure wouldn't want a sanitary/sewage worker handling your food. There isnt as erasy path to upward mobility so one is caught up in the trade/occupation he is born into. But education can change all that.
And their children are born into that caste are they not.
As to education, Dalits are shunned even when highly educated. Your answer wobbles to much. Not stable.

]Honor killing is just that, children have to honor and obey their parents. In the west the children just run away, take to drugs and prostitution. Over 50% for couples end up in divorce, many joining the ranks on welfare, poverty, destitute and crime. Hardly an improvement. Choosing long suffering to something more immediate.
You support Honor Killings - Beats divorce I guess, or where one marries below their caste, such as a Dalit?


2012 Corruption Perceptions Index -- Results
Corruption Perceptions Index 2012
Canada - 9 - in 2014 we are 6th

But militarily and in GFP ranking India ranks 4th compared to Canada's 16th place. India is also a nuclear power country.

India $1.7 trillion economy, per capita income rises to Rs 74,920 - Economic Times
No - 126 - Per capita- India Rs 74,920 n 2013
List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No 20 - Canada - per capita - 43,253 - a lot of Rupees.

Nukes- Why do you have them- Pakistan and China is why.

Most of the street signs are in English a throwback from the British rule. Villagers are not forced to learn English but are taught in their native tongue. There are many 100 languages spoken in India. Most English speaking Canadian would be lost in french speaking Quebec. Ironically it is Quebec that wants to separate from the rest of Canada. A failure in Canadian nationalism.
India has more separatist movements that Carter has liver pills- I already addressed that issue clearly.
 

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Hoo hoo its cloud cuckoo land!

So we have an ex Hiindu pushing a shopworn Freudian version of Jesus LOL.

No matter that the virgin birth myth was invented after his death & was common to many heroes at the time. So maybe "Dear Brother Luke & Co." Were the ones who suffered an Oedipus Complex.

Hey, it could have happened!

As far as being a minute nanoparticle in Gods universe, first of all someone has to demonstrate the existence of the said invisible Big Head In The Sky. On this subject I note that no one has disproved this 2500 year old statement by Epicurus.

Epicurus

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
 

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As far as being a minute nanoparticle in Gods universe, first of all someone has to demonstrate the existence of the said invisible Big Head In The Sky. On this subject I note that no one has disproved this 2500 year old statement by Epicurus.

Epicurus

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

The big head is the sky.
 

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Hoo hoo its cloud cuckoo land!
You might want to work on that opening, . . . first you announce that 'we are all in lala land' and then you step through the door speaking words of wisdom.

So we have an ex Hiindu pushing a shopworn Freudian version of Jesus LOL.
No exactly but whatever.

No matter that the virgin birth myth was invented after his death & was common to many heroes at the time. So maybe "Dear Brother Luke & Co." Were the ones who suffered an Oedipus Complex.
You do know that Matthew Mark and Luke were not part of the texts they copied down several 100 years after the eyewitnesses wrote down the original text.

Hey, it could have happened!
See point above.

As far as being a minute nanoparticle in Gods universe, first of all someone has to demonstrate the existence of the said invisible Big Head In The Sky. On this subject I note that no one has disproved this 2500 year old statement by Epicurus.
Perhaps you missed the part in the book where it says step one is to read said book and then most get to wait, . . and wait, . . . and wait. Yet you find the waiting part is not part of your plan so you toss the book away and say the book is flawed. If you lead a horse to water and he isn't thirsty when you first arrive is the horse flawed of should you wait until he is thirsty and drinks before you leave the water behind?

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
God created the Law, He is not in charge of making sure everybody stays on one side of the line when 'the plan' calls for bring the ones back that fail to stay on the proper side of the line that Law draws.
He is able and He does so at the first opportunity. Slamming God for 'not cheating' is still a point for him and one against you.
Willing and able still doesn't mean the timing is right. Would you really like to be ageless in an earth than is in constant sin or would you prefer 100 years in a sinful earth and save the billion years life for when all the wrinkles are ironed out? You call, God made the right one so you have to agree with that or you look like the bull in the china shop rather than God. (which is to be expected when He is perfect and we are a 'work in progress'. For God to produce a big book you can't understand, it is a point in His favor BTW
You don't have to call Him God before the time to act arrives, He will still accept it when you call Him God after, it isn't even entirely your call if that happens, He's the one that said only a few would be gathered by the words in a book. At this point in time you would be running a distant third. That alone should make you cheery, I know it does that to me.
 

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And their children are born into that caste are they not.
As to education, Dalits are shunned even when highly educated. Your answer wobbles to much. Not stable.


You support Honor Killings - Beats divorce I guess, or where one marries below their caste, such as a Dalit?


2012 Corruption Perceptions Index -- Results
Corruption Perceptions Index 2012
Canada - 9 - in 2014 we are 6th



India $1.7 trillion economy, per capita income rises to Rs 74,920 - Economic Times
No - 126 - Per capita- India Rs 74,920 n 2013
List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No 20 - Canada - per capita - 43,253 - a lot of Rupees.

Nukes- Why do you have them- Pakistan and China is why.


India has more separatist movements that Carter has liver pills- I already addressed that issue clearly.
The stats that you are missing is the 250 million middle class Indians living in India. That is 10 times more than the middle class in Canada. The cost of living is also lower in India. There are more billionaires in India than Canada.
 

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The stats that you are missing is the 250 million middle class Indians living in India. That is 10 times more than the middle class in Canada. The cost of living is also lower in India. There are more billionaires in India than Canada.
If Canada announced they were accepting 10 million immigrants from India, what would the response be?
Try harder next time.
 

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The cross has been appropriated by Christian ecclesiasticism as the unique and distinctive emblem of its faith. Yet in the iconography of the catacombs no figure of a man on the cross appears during the first six or seven centuries of the era! Instead there are all forms of the cross except the one which is claimed to be the very basis and origin of the religion itself. The cross of Calvary was not the initial, but the final form of the crucifix. The cult that now buttresses its authenticity upon the historic Calvary presents not a single reproduction of its crucified Redeemer in its symbolic art during the first six or seven centuries! According to Massey the earliest known form of the human figure on the cross is the crucifix presented by Pope Gregory the Great to Queen Theodolinde, now in the Church of St. John at Monza; while no image of the crucifix is found in the catacombs at Rome earlier than that of San Siulio belonging to the seventh or eighth century. In the earliest representations of the Trinity made by Christian artists, the Father and the Holy Spirit, the latter being feminine in the form of the Dove, are pictured beside the cross. A Christ, and him crucified, is utterly absent. Not the Crucified, but the cross, is the primary symbol of the Christian faith. Yet that same cross is pre-Christian, is a pagan and heathen symbol. For centuries the cross stood for the Christ, and was addressed as if it were a living thing. Crucifixes have been found in Christian churches antedating the fourth century, with a human figure nailed or bound in the conventional way; but the figure is not
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that of Jesus! It is that of Orpheus! In Christian imagery the Lamb was the usual figure on the cross, when a sacrificial victim was added to the bare cross emblem. But it appears that about the end of the seventh century it began to be felt that the alleged historical life of the personal Christ was in danger of being lost amid the mass of symbolic representations and the multiplicity of Messianic and sun-god characters which were current in most countries as the heritage of pagan symbolism. In order, then, to focus emphasis upon the uniqueness of the Christian Jesus as the physically crucified one, it was decreed by the Council of Trullo, or the Quinque Sixtum, in the reign of Justinian II, that in future the figure of the real historical Jesus should supersede the astrological sign of Aries "in the image of Christ, our God." "He shall be represented in his human form, instead of the Lamb, as in former times" (Cited by Didron: Icon. Chret., pp. 338-9).
In the eighth century Adrian I, Pontiff of Rome, in a letter to Barasius, the Patriarch of Constantinople, voiced the opinion that the time had come for the Christ to be no longer portrayed as the Lamb:http://pc93.tripod.com/lostlght.htm

When the Ritual expounds that the womb of Nut (nature) is filled with the seed of the spirit to which she is to give birth, the passage gives us the one central clue to full comprehension of the whole structure. It is found in the word "seed." Here is indeed our Ariadne thread by which to reach understanding. The entire scope and full force of the meaning can not be seen without viewing it through the analogy of the function of the seed in relation to its parent tree or plant. The ark is the seed of life. The analogy must be drawn in full.
Life, as said, ceaselessly alternates shuttle-like between the two nodes of manifestation and withdrawal, activity in matter and rest in spirit. From the heart of invisible being it issues forth to express its creative pleasure in building the universe. But it operates rhythmically in cyclic
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rounds, for it is never static; and its periodic activity is focalized in time, and runs its course to an end, at which the forms built up to express its nature are dismantled and vanish away. The Hindu Trinity expresses aspects of truth that the Christian Trinity has never conveyed. There was Brahma, the Creator, and opposite him Shiva, the Destroyer; and between them Vishnu, the Preserver of the eternal balance between them. The vast and vital function of Shiva has not been given due place in theology. Life has power to build forms, but if it did not also have power to destroy them, it would have to remain forever prisoner to its own formations! Nothing would be worse than that it should have to live eternally in the forms it first built. There could be no evolution. Life’s power to destroy a present construction and build a "more stately mansion" for its dwelling is its guarantee of advance to more abundant richness.
 

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If Canada announced they were accepting 10 million immigrants from India, what would the response be?
Try harder next time.
Indians are more keen on going to the US. The US has a need for engineers, IT specialist and technologists which are attractive to the educated Indians wanting to migrate overseas. Canada do not have opportunities in the high tech fields because it is a resource rich country with a big service and hospitality industry. Most educated Indians end up driving taxi's in Canada. What Canada needs is foreign investors to develop high tech manufacturing sectors to compete with China. Note, not a single technology company has gone IPO. Nortel even went bankrupt. The Canadian dollar is dropping because the price of oil is dropping.
 

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Allowing more Indian immigrants might even help Canada pursue a space program. The best Canada was able to do was develop a space robotic arm to retrieve space debris or space garbage. India has at a fraction of the cost sent a rocket to Mars.
 

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Hindus?


Christian missionaries labeled "enemies of Hindus" - Fides News Agency



ASIA/INDIA - Christian missionaries labeled "enemies of Hindus"



New Delhi (Agenzia Fides) - Christian missionaries are identified among the five biggest enemies of Hindus: is what is said in a pamphlet distributed at World Hindu Congress 2014 which has just ended in Delhi. As Fides learns, other "sworn enemies of Hindus" highlighted in the text are: Islam, Marxism, materialism, "Macaulayismo" (the public education system launched by Tohmas Macaualy during the days of British dominion, ed).
These concepts, expression of Hindutva ideology (which preaches "India for only Hindus") found space during the Congress, given the massive presence of militants and radical organizations.
"The combination of forces and anti-Hindus is weakening Indian society", is what is said and therefore the faithful are invited to counter the cultural system in force. The pamphlet defines Islam "poisonous", criticizes the cultural and religious pluralism and the approach of Christian missionaries who "wickedly introduce the value system of their own western societies"

World Hindu Congress in 2014 was attended by over 1,500 delegates from 40 countries.
 

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Why does that surprise you. You know the 'arrogant American 'foreigner' is a 'Christian American' or did they leave that part out in your version?
 

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Based on 'making up a new name doesn't really do much in the end' theme which group would that move put them into?

Re:22:11:
He that is unjust,
let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy,
let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous,
let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy,
let him be holy still.
 

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Based on 'making up a new name doesn't really do much in the end' theme which group would that move put them into?

Re:22:11:
He that is unjust,
let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy,
let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous,
let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy,
let him be holy still.

Goes against the wisdom of the sages. You have control over your rebirths by living a pure life and affecting your karma. Through meditation and pure thoughts you elevate your state of being and transcend physical boundaries created by your ego which is the cause for the shallowness of awareness. Seek enlightenment from these distraction and free yourself from this vicious cycle of rebirths so you can become united with the self and beyond.