How the GW myth is perpetuated

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petros said:
Wait decades for you to explain lulls in exponential growth without a reduction in inputs?
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I thought we'd been through this already. There is nothing about expoential growth that says it has to be relentlessly positive. The differential equations involving predator-prey population dynamics are a good example.

Tecumsehsbones said:
Far as I'm concerned, the whole global warming or climate change debate comes down to one thing: we do not have the modelling capacity to completely understand or accurately predict climate.
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Great. Care to make it interesting. I will make a prediction about the climate six months from now and put money on it.
 
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Zipperfish said:
I thought we'd been through this already. There is nothing about expoential growth that says it has to be relentlessly positive. The differential equations involving predator-prey population dynamics are a good example.



Great. Care to make it interesting. I will make a prediction about the climate six months from now and put money on it.
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According to Petty it's going to get cold....globally.
 
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And there was a great rending of garments


Dr. Reese Halter, the self-professed "Earth Doctor" who has a PhD in subalpine Eucalyptus eco-stress physiology, gave a dire warning during an appearance on MSNBC:
...if we continue at this rate, sometime soon after 2030 we will have spent the entire carbon budget for this century. We will then be in the realm of eclipsing 7 degrees Fahrenheit, and it will be an uninhabitable planet for our children. The oceans will shut down. The forests globally will shut down...​
The already overcrowded hall of fame, however, will remain open.


And there was a great rending of garments - Small Dead Animals

heh
 
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Locutus said:
And there was a great rending of garments


Dr. Reese Halter, the self-professed "Earth Doctor" who has a PhD in subalpine Eucalyptus eco-stress physiology, gave a dire warning during an appearance on MSNBC:
...if we continue at this rate, sometime soon after 2030 we will have spent the entire carbon budget for this century. We will then be in the realm of eclipsing 7 degrees Fahrenheit, and it will be an uninhabitable planet for our children. The oceans will shut down. The forests globally will shut down...​
The already overcrowded hall of fame, however, will remain open.


And there was a great rending of garments - Small Dead Animals

heh
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Half of won't even be alive then to see just how wrong his predictions are.
 
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Climate change in one photo. 35,000 walrus come ashore due to lack of ice!



an exclamation mark and everything.

anyway, it's happened before many times just never really been noticed and photographed. *yawn*

nice bit from the guardian comments section re: this bullsh!t:



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It's not global warming making Arctic ice disappear, just as it's not global warming causing record high Antarctic sea ice.

There's not much happening with Arctic air temps:
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/CarbonFooledYa/UAH_RSS4_zps8efda942.jpg

The Guardian newspaper knows it's winds affected by Arctic Oscillation that causes the Arctic sea ice loss:
Wind contributing to Arctic sea ice loss, study finds | Environment | theguardian.com

Curiously, even though it's written by their own environment editor David Adam, the Guardian has censored their own story claiming "copyright had expired".

Copyright expired after three years? When they own the words themselves anyway?

Luckily there's a copy at the web.archive:
Wind contributing to Arctic sea ice loss, study finds | Environment | theguardian.com

And here's the link to the peer review paper showing Arctic sea ice loss is due to natural changes in the wind, not AGW:

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/research/d2/masayo.ogi/09056-galley-proof.pdf
Why would the Guardian want to withhold this sort of information from their readers? I thought AGW was robust settled science.



Walrus mass in vast numbers on Alaska beach as sea ice retreats | Environment | theguardian.com

rinse/repeat:

Mass haulouts of Pacific walrus and stampede deaths are not new, not due to low ice cover

Mass haulouts of Pacific walrus and stampede deaths are not new, not due to low ice cover | polarbearscience
 
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heh

2nd Law of Climodynamics: If the present refuses to get warmer, then the past must become cooler.
 
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Locutus said:



There's not much happening with Arctic air temps:
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/CarbonFooledYa/UAH_RSS4_zps8efda942.jpg

The Guardian newspaper knows it's winds affected by Arctic Oscillation that causes the Arctic sea ice loss:
Wind contributing to Arctic sea ice loss, study finds | Environment | theguardian.com

Curiously, even though it's written by their own environment editor David Adam, the Guardian has censored their own story claiming "copyright had expired".

Copyright expired after three years? When they own the words themselves anyway?

Luckily there's a copy at the web.archive:
Wind contributing to Arctic sea ice loss, study finds | Environment | theguardian.com

And here's the link to the peer review paper showing Arctic sea ice loss is due to natural changes in the wind, not AGW:
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/research/d2/masayo.ogi/09056-galley-proof.pdf
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/research/d2/masayo.ogi/09056-galley-proof.pdf

Why would the Guardian want to withhold this sort of information from their readers? I thought AGW was robust settled science.
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I read the paper attached, thanks. It doesn't actually say that arctic ice loss is due to natural changes. It says it may be due to natural variability. That's a lot different. The authors followed up with another paper in 2010 in which they ascribed 1/3 of the Arctic sea ice loss due to wind. The paper does not concern itself for reasons fo rthe other 2/3 of sea ice extent loss.
 
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captain morgan said:
Confirmed... That would be an affirmative to your question
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it wasn't a question directed your way; do you feel you need to act/respond on behalf of the member to which the question was directed? Are you that starved for attention?
 
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Now Is The Time At SDA When We Juxtapose!
Now Is The Time At SDA When We Juxtapose! - Small Dead Animals

Canadabuster ‏@Canadabuster Nov 12
"@Big_Wilkie: @ElizabethMay is excited that china will increase its CO2 emissions until 2030 "
http://vox.com/e/6964950?utm_ …" @katewerk"





Elizabeth May MPVerified account ‏@ElizabethMay

@Canadabuster @Big_Wilkie @katewerk No. I am encouraged China will stop rising emissions. This is essential.


yeah well...





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