Terminally ill 29-year-old woman plans to take her own life on Nov. 1

coldstream

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Forcing someone to stay alive against their will is also selfish. She had a long time to consider it all. This wasnt done for attention's sake but to raise awareness about the issue.

Suicide is in most jurisdictions not even a crime. Aiding and Abetting suicide IS.

Make your own decisions and accept your own consequences.. don't draw the rest of us in as co-conspirators.
 
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Twila

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Suicide is in most jurisdictions not even a crime. Aiding and Abetting suicide IS.

Make your own decisions and accept your own consequences.. for don't draw the rest of us in as co-conspirators.

That's one way of looking at it. Some people view it differently.
 

Sal

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Suicide is in most jurisdictions not even a crime. Aiding and Abetting suicide IS.

Make your own decisions and accept your own consequences.. for don't draw the rest of us in as co-conspirators.

No, she purposely moved to a state where under very limited circumstances it is legal. The drugs she used were prescribed to her by a doctor. Also she did not want to die, she is only 29 years old, she did not commit suicide, she ended her life. There is a big difference. Her particular kind of brain cancer gave her a life expectancy of six months. Six months is up. She was with certainty going to die this month. She researched every type of possible cure there could be. At this time, for her particular cancer the death rate is 100% within six months. The agonizing seizures she was experiencing were becoming increasingly more violent and more frequent and her sickness almost all encompassing.

I understand as a Christian you embrace personal suffering as some type of sin cleanser.

Not all share your belief in that regard nor share your belief that God endorses our suffering.
 

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Aiding and Abetting suicide IS.

Make your own decisions and accept your own consequences.. don't draw the rest of us in as co-conspirators.

It wasnt a crime where she was and hopefully wont be here for much longer. She didn't draw anyone in who wasn't willing to do so.
 

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Not yet. It's just breathing hard.

I see no indication that I'll ever die. And when somebody tells me everybody dies, I just remember my grandmother saying "if everybody else jumped off a cliff, would you jump off too?"


You can delay it, you can't prevent it. I was as tough and had pretty much the same stamina at 69 as I did at 40, but then the onset of old age was pretty fast after that, joints start to ache, moving is more difficult and your wind gradually decreases. I can still do damn near as much, it's just harder. :)
 

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No, she purposely moved to a state where under very limited circumstances it is legal. The drugs she used were prescribed to her by a doctor. Also she did not want to die, she is only 29 years old, she did not commit suicide, she ended her life. There is a big difference. Her particular kind of brain cancer gave her a life expectancy of six months. Six months is up. She was with certainty going to die this month. She researched every type of possible cure there could be. At this time, for her particular cancer the death rate is 100% within six months. The agonizing seizures she was experiencing were becoming increasingly more violent and more frequent and her sickness almost all encompassing.

I understand as a Christian you embrace personal suffering as some type of sin cleanser.

Not all share your belief in that regard nor share your belief that God endorses our suffering.

There is no difference between 'suicide' and 'ending your own life'. As i said she has my sympathy, but not my empathy.. or respect. Its quite clear the public spectacle she made out of this was intended to elicit pity, and likely to assuage her own conscience.

'Sin cleanser' is a rather trite phrase for the most powerful of God's redeeming graces.. for those in their last agony. Brittany seems to have not given much consideration to how involving her family in this would affect them. It was cleary intended to put the whole issue on the political boil.
 
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You can delay it, you can't prevent it. I was as tough and had pretty much the same stamina at 69 as I did at 40, but then the onset of old age was pretty fast after that, joints start to ache, moving is more difficult and your wind gradually decreases. I can still do damn near as much, it's just harder. :)
There's an old tale of a fella that got one wish, and he wished for eternal life. As he deteriorated, but didn't die, his life eventually became a nightmare: blind, deaf, crippled, in constant pain, for centuries.

His mistake was not wishing for eternal youth.
 

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Brittany seems to have not given much consideration to how involving her family in this would affect them. It was cleary intended to put the whole issue on the political boil.

I bet she did. I bet she thought about how much she loves her husband and didn't want his last memories of her being her screaming in agony, writhing on the bed dying a horrible horrible death.

I bet she gave it lots of thought. After all, she's had since January to think about what was going to happen to her.

If I could ease the suffering of someone I loved I would do it. To sit and watch them die in agony takes a special kind of sadistic individual. Very similar to a psycopath actually.
 

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There is no difference between 'suicide' and 'ending your own life'. As i said she has my sympathy, but not my empathy.. or respect. Its quite clear the public spectacle she made out of this was intended to elicit pity, and likely to assuage her own conscience.

'Sin cleanser' is a rather trite phrase for the most powerful of God's redeeming graces.. for those in their last agony. Brittany seems to have not given much consideration to how involving her family in this would affect them. It was cleary intended to put the whole issue on the political boil.

Okay I will concede that in your world according to you, ending your life so that you don't die seizing every few minutes and convulsing and screaming in agony, no longer knowing who you are, is to be labeled suicide. I do not see it that way but perhaps it is, I mean mental agony that drives others to suicide really is not any less agonizing then physical agony so I will concede that perhaps you are right on that.

When Rosa Parks got on that bus she too made a public spectacle of herself. She was a damn uppity n*gger in the mind of many. My point here being as society grows, learns and evolves we learn to view things quite differently. What was once held as near and dear and right in one century or decade changes in the next.

Have you ever heard someone beg to die, or awaken every morning and begin to cry because every night when going to sleep their last prayer was to die to relieve the agony. It is a horrendous thing to witness. And the watchers are torn by guilt and remorse. Guilt because they just wish the person would die too so that creates a disturbing dichotomy. You breathe every breath with them. You struggle with them on every flemmy choke.

This young lady bravely spared her family that horror. She was 29 years old. She wanted to live, and have babies and enjoy life with her new husband. That was not meant for her this time around.

God is love. No amount of physical suffering can atone for the wrongs we do to others or to ourselves. God is love and if I would not have another suffer surely and certainly a god of love would not either.

It is good to see that you have sympathy for her though. I am certain, many others do not even have that amount of grace within them.

I hope by the time I arrive at this place, taking a pill is a standard option.
 

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Okay I will concede that in your world according to you, ending your life so that you don't die seizing every few minutes and convulsing and screaming in agony, no longer knowing who you are, is to be labeled suicide. I do not see it that way but perhaps it is, I mean mental agony that drives others to suicide really is not any less agonizing then physical agony so I will concede that perhaps you are right on that.

When Rosa Parks got on that bus she too made a public spectacle of herself. She was a damn uppity n*gger in the mind of many. My point here being as society grows, learns and evolves we learn to view things quite differently. What was once held as near and dear and right in one century or decade changes in the next.

Have you ever heard someone beg to die, or awaken every morning and begin to cry because every night when going to sleep their last prayer was to die to relieve the agony. It is a horrendous thing to witness. And the watchers are torn by guilt and remorse. Guilt because they just wish the person would die too so that creates a disturbing dichotomy. You breathe every breath with them. You struggle with them on every flemmy choke.

This young lady bravely spared her family that horror. She was 29 years old. She wanted to live, and have babies and enjoy life with her new husband. That was not meant for her this time around.

God is love. No amount of physical suffering can atone for the wrongs we do to others or to ourselves. God is love and if I would not have another suffer surely and certainly a god of love would not either.

It is good to see that you have sympathy for her though. I am certain, many others do not even have that amount of grace within them.

I hope by the time I arrive at this place, taking a pill is a standard option.
Actually while I spent time in the hospital I did hear a man beg for death he had arthritis so bad that nothing worked and his body was in extreme pain , No drug not even gold treatments stopped the pain so yes it does happen .
I think that it is great that we can all have an open opinion on this but in the end it was her choice. Done
 

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Actually while I spent time in the hospital I did hear a man beg for death he had arthritis so bad that nothing worked and his body was in extreme pain , No drug not even gold treatments stopped the pain so yes it does happen .
I think that it is great that we can all have an open opinion on this but in the end it was her choice. Done

Bingo

her life, her death, her choice
 

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Definitely another valid opinion. (My cousin died from A.L.S. 3 years ago)

 

Twila

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What she's still alive?? Where is the news in that?? ��

She's not. She exercised her right to die on her terms and not in agony on Saturday. She died peacefully with her family.
 

Twila

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That doesnt hurt them. They'd still be able to say "No."

Some people are not as steadfast in their convictions as they'd like to believe.

Humans are herd animals. We feel confident in our choices if we have a majority of people around us who feel the same.
 

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Some people are not as steadfast in their convictions as they'd like to believe.

Humans are herd animals. We feel confident in our choices if we have a majority of people around us who feel the same.
Not me. The majority is wrong until proven otherwise. Ain't happened yet.

Then again, I ain't completely human, so you my be right.