CBC fires Jian Ghomeshi

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I don't think anybody is suggesting that the CBC should not have acted and if he was let go for actions in the workplace, the CBC would be completely justified in their actions. Since we don't no all the details of the reasons behind his firing, we can only speculate. It would be silly to suggest that firing him is the only way to "protect" coworkers if nothing inappropriate occurred in the workplace.

Try reading the accounts of what transpired. How he addressed them. The videos he brought.
But then you are just being an a*sshole again, and again, ad nauseam.
So troll away Bucky.
 

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But then you are just being an a*sshole again, and again, ad nauseam.
So troll away Bucky.
I actually don't think he is dude. I honestly think he doesn't get it.

Look at the idiotic "do tell" fiasco. I mean seriously, everyone else knew exactly what I was talking about. Only a moron wouldn't.
 

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I'm really glad that these women have come forward. I knew all along that this man was a predator and this only solidifies my position.
 

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Sometimes you experience a trauma that takes your brain hours, days, weeks even years to process because it is such a shock to the senses.

I have seen guys snap over battle scars years after the actual battle. Some breaker inside the head just seems to trip over seemingly nothing.......maybe a couple of Burkas haunting a Walmart toy isle and whammo....you're back in the **** emotionally even though you're not there and now your brain is processing everything that it wouldn't at the time.

I can completely understand how decades can pass and all of a sudden a women is more affected emotionally by a rape than she was at the time. Additionally, I can think of few things worse for any human being than being raped. These women deserve sympathy and support while Ghomeshi deserves a prison cell.

yes for sure it's a survival skill

we process trauma when we feel safe enough to do so, sometimes that is never, other times it is when we simply are full and can take no more

triggers are peculiar things as you said simply viewing a burka and it triggers a flood

I watched an interesting documentary a few years back on survival and the capability of the human mind and body to compartmentalize a situation, shut it down and just survive. Interestingly it doesn't always work for every one. They used extremes of course to illustrate the research. One was an individual who had fallen out of a window onto a spiked fence. They landed upside down with the spikes completely down their body. A passerby was smart enough to grab them and hold them in place until help arrived. It happened to be at the correct precise moment in the fall, if they had descended further the spikes would have pierced vital organs.

If they had moved, they would have died. Buddy said he had zero pain until they removed him. They explained how the brain had blocked the pain until he was safe. Apparently that can happen with bullets in the body too. The brain will freeze us, or push us to run depending upon how it has processed what the best reaction is for survival.

Psychologically we function the same way, if we are lucky.
 

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really?

if the guy uses women like punching bag, I certainly wouldn't want him working for me

Nor would I.

also your use of the phrase It would be silly to suggest that firing him is the only way to "protect" coworkers no worker should need to be protected from other workers, ever

Agreed

you are right that we are speculating, but a leak is saying it is due to what they viewed on the video he used as self defense, that is of concern no?

if the CBC believed that a crime had occurred then the proper course of action would be to report it to the police and I believe everybody has the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. I understand some people believe the choice was between doing nothing and firing him. I disagree given the information I've seen so far but he'll, people love a good witch hunt.
 

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if the CBC believed that a crime had occurred then the proper course of action would be to report it to the police and I believe everybody has the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. I understand some people believe the choice was between doing nothing and firing him. I disagree given the information I've seen so far but he'll, people love a good witch hunt.

No one at CBC stated he was fired for criminal actions. He was fired as he damages the CBC brand. Entirely legal.
 

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Nor would I.



Agreed



if the CBC believed that a crime had occurred then the proper course of action would be to report it to the police and I believe everybody has the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. I understand some people believe the choice was between doing nothing and firing him. I disagree given the information I've seen so far but he'll, people love a good witch hunt.

okay fair enough

but as you said, we are only speculating...thus CBC may have all sorts of reasons for cutting him loose that are completely unrelated to any information that we have at this time
 

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You knew as well?

Yes. Yes we did.

okay fair enough

but as you said, we are only speculating...thus CBC may have all sorts of reasons for cutting him loose that are completely unrelated to any information that we have at this time

I read in a newspaper article, which I can't find, describing the timeline of events and CBC made the decision after seeing the videos Ghomeshi presented as proof of innocence. Globe and Mail I think.
 

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okay fair enough

but as you said, we are only speculating...thus CBC may have all sorts of reasons for cutting him loose that are completely unrelated to any information that we have at this time


Possibly...or possibly not. Time will tell. I think what separates me and RCS from some others is that we believe in due process. On the surface anyway, there are some questions as to whether this occurred. I think it's highly unlikely that "damaging the CBC brand" is written into the workers contract at the CBC.
 

Sal

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Yes. Yes we did.



I read in a newspaper article, which I can't find, describing the timeline of events and CBC made the decision after seeing the videos Ghomeshi presented as proof of innocence. Globe and Mail I think.

agreed, so far that would appear to be the case

also keep in mind, that may well have merely been the last straw, he has a successful show, that equals dollars generated which means a greater level of tolerance for what may be viewed as personal peculiarities, but even that has a limit