yeah it doesn't look good for his future...on the other hand, he won't have to worry about paying for food
CBC fires Jian Ghomeshi
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yeah it doesn't look good for his future...on the other hand, he won't have to worry about paying for food
It's incredibly brave of those 2 women to go to the police. If it wasn't for their bravery there's a huge possibility that nothing would have come from this.
Even if only 1 of those women had gone to police there's a chance that not much would have come from it. I hope they'll be able to maintain their forward momentum. Life is going to change for them and the hardest parts are still to come.
Even if only 1 of those women had gone to police there's a chance that not much would have come from it. I hope they'll be able to maintain their forward momentum. Life is going to change for them and the hardest parts are still to come.
yes
it has exploded all over twitter apparently
there's some hashtag about....yes I was assaulted and never reported it or something to that affect inspired by those women. I haven't followed it but it's there if you want to go seeking it.
Some good will come out of this
Well, my parents let one such person baptize me.
Yeah i read quite a few of them last night. Very depressing stuff.
I started with a few from the news article, the stats are very bad for women who have reported it vs. prosecution rate. Things are changing slowly but we are moving in the right direction.
I read a statement by a newsman in the private sector. Dave Biro from Vancouver Island
basically said Jian Ghomeshi does not understand the role of someone in the media. He
is to be held to a higher standard like others in the same business. The reason is
perception is bigger than reality and the image of an institution can become as tarnished
as the individual. Point well taken. We all have our favorite and villain reporters and news
commentators. Why do we have likes and dislikes? The reason is our perception of what
they are about.
For example Walter Cronkite was known as an objective reporter and commentator I agree
with that.
In my view Rush is an expos-ay of all that is wrong with talk radio and a news person I
believe little of what he rants about and his image to me is that of a blowhard (sorry Walter)
he is a buffoon at best.
Gomeshi wanted people to get on the pity train and at the same time silence his critics. At
worst he want to force his accusers into the silence of submission. Now that they are coming
forward it demonstrates there is a lot more to this and the CBC has tapes of more serious
allegations and more serious incidents allegedly if so the ploy made him look worse rather than
better not by fact but by deception. Doing what he did going public not only pretty much destroyed
his career it also destroyed the short term image of Q a successful program
This leads to a second question Would the CBC take the risk of destroying their most successful
show if there wasn't a lot more to it? Time will tell but I personally see some very disturbing
trends here. And yes if the actions of someone result in serious enough allegations it is no longer
a question of it was on my own time.
Interns from colleges work in that building, other vulnerable employees might also be working there
it is a company responsibility to protect employees in a workplace. And if these allegations prove
true CBC could be liable if they didn't act. At what point does a company take action at what point
does a police investigation take place and when will we know if anything more serious constituted
the decisions made?
basically said Jian Ghomeshi does not understand the role of someone in the media. He
is to be held to a higher standard like others in the same business. The reason is
perception is bigger than reality and the image of an institution can become as tarnished
as the individual. Point well taken. We all have our favorite and villain reporters and news
commentators. Why do we have likes and dislikes? The reason is our perception of what
they are about.
For example Walter Cronkite was known as an objective reporter and commentator I agree
with that.
In my view Rush is an expos-ay of all that is wrong with talk radio and a news person I
believe little of what he rants about and his image to me is that of a blowhard (sorry Walter)
he is a buffoon at best.
Gomeshi wanted people to get on the pity train and at the same time silence his critics. At
worst he want to force his accusers into the silence of submission. Now that they are coming
forward it demonstrates there is a lot more to this and the CBC has tapes of more serious
allegations and more serious incidents allegedly if so the ploy made him look worse rather than
better not by fact but by deception. Doing what he did going public not only pretty much destroyed
his career it also destroyed the short term image of Q a successful program
This leads to a second question Would the CBC take the risk of destroying their most successful
show if there wasn't a lot more to it? Time will tell but I personally see some very disturbing
trends here. And yes if the actions of someone result in serious enough allegations it is no longer
a question of it was on my own time.
Interns from colleges work in that building, other vulnerable employees might also be working there
it is a company responsibility to protect employees in a workplace. And if these allegations prove
true CBC could be liable if they didn't act. At what point does a company take action at what point
does a police investigation take place and when will we know if anything more serious constituted
the decisions made?
Not only that but with mass media these women now have to deal with death threats, rape threats, torment, character assisnation, and the world knowing your humiliation. Knowing that everyone knows what you went through and might be treating you differently because of it or not taking your ideas, thoughts, responses to things seriously because they think you're responding that way because of what happened. What a sh it way to have to live.
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I noted this days ago, so bang on. This really only needed to be said for people who aren't very bright.
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I haven't read anything yet about the threats of death and rape and torment nor of character assassination. 8O Do you mean tied to this case because yes, their names are going to become household names and their humiliation will be scrutinized and analysed and judged by everyone. Some will understand, others will not, still others will finger point because they can.
Sometimes women just shock me. The resilience is astounding. I remember working with someone for years and years. We went outside for a cigarette one hot summer day and we were just sitting on a bench talking about nothing in particular. Out of the blue, she told me how her sister's boyfriend had asked her if she wanted a ride in his new convertible car. Her sister was late getting ready for their date. She said yes, and hopped in the car. He took her to a remote spot, raped her, took her back home, dropped her off, torn clothes and all picked up her sister and drove away.
She had never told a soul. She said she went right upstairs, hopped into the bath tub cleaned herself up and went to work.
For days I kept thinking....did she tell me that? It stunned me. It still leaves me kind of breathless.
Stuff happens.
Women get raped and make dinner. WTF? Maybe that's a part of evolution too.
At no time during your baptism were you left alone with the Priest/Minister. Not a valid example.
Well, being an a$$hole isnt a crime. Half the members on this board would be in prison if it was.
Yeah, those guys are REALLY disgusting, aren't they??
since even this chickensh!t scumbag laying low in L.A. can see his supporters are as rare as a Maple Leaf Stanley Cup, I still think he might off himself rather than face it up like a man - his disgusting and degrading treatment of women during a prolonged shameful investigation.
I hope the victims and police keep the heat on this bastard.
I hope the victims and police keep the heat on this bastard.
At this point (being able to safely conclude, I think that the women aren't lying) the only support Ghomeshi deserves is a defense lawyer to see he has a fair trial before commencing a lengthy term in durrance vile!
Hi Sal and Twila- I see there are three of us on the same page, contrary to one guy who thinks he's perfectly O.K.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that the CBC should not have acted and if he was let go for actions in the workplace, the CBC would be completely justified in their actions. Since we don't no all the details of the reasons behind his firing, we can only speculate. It would be silly to suggest that firing him is the only way to "protect" coworkers if nothing inappropriate occurred in the workplace.
really?
if the guy uses women like punching bag, I certainly wouldn't want him working for me
also your use of the phrase It would be silly to suggest that firing him is the only way to "protect" coworkers no worker should need to be protected from other workers, ever
you are right that we are speculating, but a leak is saying it is due to what they viewed on the video he used as self defense, that is of concern no?
Sometimes you experience a trauma that takes your brain hours, days, weeks even years to process because it is such a shock to the senses.
I have seen guys snap over battle scars years after the actual battle. Some breaker inside the head just seems to trip over seemingly nothing.......maybe a couple of Burkas haunting a Walmart toy isle and whammo....you're back in the **** emotionally even though you're not there and now your brain is processing everything that it wouldn't at the time.
I can completely understand how decades can pass and all of a sudden a women is more affected emotionally by a rape than she was at the time. Additionally, I can think of few things worse for any human being than being raped. These women deserve sympathy and support while Ghomeshi deserves a prison cell.