Canada goes to War

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It makes me laugh as it shows liars for what they are. And you as the simpleton who hangs on their every word. In case you missed the headline, the US just admitted defeat. lol. Too bad they don't speak for Syria.
Sure it show that ISIS was always meant to have control unless the US military just shows the world it can't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag. I love it when hypocrites are exposed. Take you choice, ISIS is where it is because the US (and others) want it that way or the US has just been defeated by some rag-tag rebels. Either way ISIS will have control and it always had the blessing of the US and Israel as they are their boys, that is the complete opposite of your theory. That's worth a laugh too as it just add to how many times you have been as wrong as wrong gets.

 

[Goober]

State Department Clears Sale of 46,000 Tank Rounds for Iraq - Defense One

The U.S. State Department has cleared a $600 million sale of 26,000 120-millimeter armor-piercing tank rounds for the Iraqi Army’s M1A1 Abrams tank fleet.

Syria tribal revolt against Islamic State ignored, fueling resentment - The Washington Post

REYHANLI, Turkey — The cost of turning against the Islamic State was made brutally apparent in the streets of a dusty backwater town in eastern Syria in early August. Over a three-day period, vengeful fighters shelled, beheaded, crucified and shot hundreds of members of the Shaitat tribe after they dared to rise up against the extremists.

By the time the killing stopped, 700 people were dead, activists and survivors say, making this the bloodiest single atrocity committed by the Islamic State in Syria since it declared its existence 18 months ago.

U.S. warplanes have carried out more airstrikes on Islamic State forces besieging the Kurdish town of Kobane on Syria’s border with Turkey than on any other single location in Iraq or Syria. And Washington announced Sunday that U.S. planes had airdropped weapons and medical supplies to the beleaguered Kurdish fighters there.

Yet even now, Washington has directed little effort toward helping Sunni Arabs who want to fight the militants but lack the resources to do so, said Abu Salem, who was among the Shaitat tribesman and rebel commanders who gathered recently in an apartment in the Turkish border town of Reyhanli to recount the killings of their clansmen.

“We saw what the Americans did to help the Yazidis and the Kurds. But they have done nothing to help the Sunnis against the Islamic State,” he said.

Such comments have reinforced perceptions among Syrians that the U.S.-led air war does not have their interests at heart. Differences over the purposes and direction of the war risk alienating the many rebel groups that were engaged in battling the Islamic State before the U.S. government intervened, said Steven Heydemann of the U.S. Institute of Peace.

“It’s already become an impediment,” he said. “I don’t think the administration has fully taken on board how much damage the way they’ve conducted this campaign has done to the relationships they’ve developed with some of these actors.”

 

[BaalsTears]

America lacks sufficient human intelligence on the ground to be able to determine who all the players are in Iraq and Syria. Obama's flying blind.

 

[Locutus]

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CF-18s arrive in Kuwait for anti-ISIS mission http://www.cbc.ca/1.2817265

 

[Goober]

America lacks sufficient human intelligence on the ground to be able to determine who all the players are in Iraq and Syria. Obama's flying blind.

Certain things needed to be addressed. Qatar has been fundraising central for Al Nusra. Qatar plays all sides of the fence. One reason why many Arab countries recalled their ambassadors. Qatar is trying to play in the big leagues and by playing all sides, they gain influence.
A month or so ago, some members of the Muslim Brotherhood - stories vary, left Qatar.

 

[BaalsTears]

Certain things needed to be addressed. Qatar has been fundraising central for Al Nusra. Qatar plays all sides of the fence. One reason why many Arab countries recalled their ambassadors. Qatar is trying to play in the big leagues and by playing all sides, they gain influence.
A month or so ago, some members of the Muslim Brotherhood - stories vary, left Qatar.

You know more about the cast of characters in the middle east than does anyone in the Obama Administration.

It should be remembered that it was Qatar that shipped American weapons to the Libyan rebels who ultimately killed Gadhafi, and subsequently killed four Americans in Benghazi. Qatar has become quite the bad actor.

 

[Goober]

You know more about the cast of characters in the middle east than does anyone in the Obama Administration.

It should be remembered that it was Qatar that shipped American weapons to the Libyan rebels who ultimately killed Gadhafi, and subsequently killed four Americans in Benghazi. Qatar has become quite the bad actor.

Reason they are being isolated. They are now trying to renter the fold.

 

[BaalsTears]

Reason they are being isolated. They are now trying to renter the fold.

And they will be allowed to reenter the fold by Obama's boys and girls. It's like watching a beaten dog licking the hand of the person who beat it.

 

[damngrumpy]

Its about time we faced a serious fact here. Like it or not we are going to be at war,
Either the war will be over there and it will eventually come here I have no doubt of
that.
We have been at war with a radical element of Islam promoted and financed by
some of our friends. The difference is ISIS is embolden and now they are even
prepared to go at some of their friends. Iran, Saudi Arabia and others are getting
nervous and quietly discussing action with nontraditional fiends even though no one
will admit it.
We've been at war and they have a head start because our heads have been buried
in the sand. We engage in niceties while their friends blow things up and then a
Mosque is built next to the destruction
Yes there are many nice people who mean no harm and they don't like what's happening
but what label should they wear so we know the good ones from the bad ones?
This is not about race either Muslims come in all colors and nationalities but then these
Militia groups in rural areas of Canada and America are also pulling at the fabric of the
nation
One thing that concerns me is stupid people those who will shoot anyone wearing a
turban not realizing more than Muslims wear turbans
I don't know what the answer is and how we are going to solve the problems pending
but we better figure it out because events at the Parliament Building are just the
begiing.

Oh and this poll shows that as many people are divided about no as are in favor

 

[BaalsTears]

Americans won't fight effectively until they feel endangered. That means the war will have to come to North America on a more than sporadic basis. Unfortunately, I know the Americans too well.

 

[Goober]

And they will be allowed to reenter the fold by Obama's boys and girls. It's like watching a beaten dog licking the hand of the person who beat it.

I disagree - The Saudi;s will make that decision.
After Obama with his FP decision on the MB Govt in Egypt, Obama was toasted in Egypt and Saudi. The Saudi's are funding the Egyptian Govt.
Also by the Camp David accords, US failure to adhere to the terms breaks that treaty. Reason they temporarily suspended aid and did not make it permanent.
Syria is the linchpin, along with Iran and no nukes.

Its about time we faced a serious fact here. Like it or not we are going to be at war,
Either the war will be over there and it will eventually come here I have no doubt of
that.
We have been at war with a radical element of Islam promoted and financed by
some of our friends. The difference is ISIS is embolden and now they are even
prepared to go at some of their friends. Iran, Saudi Arabia and others are getting
nervous and quietly discussing action with nontraditional fiends even though no one
will admit it.
We've been at war and they have a head start because our heads have been buried
in the sand. We engage in niceties while their friends blow things up and then a
Mosque is built next to the destruction
Yes there are many nice people who mean no harm and they don't like what's happening
but what label should they wear so we know the good ones from the bad ones?
This is not about race either Muslims come in all colors and nationalities but then these
Militia groups in rural areas of Canada and America are also pulling at the fabric of the
nation
One thing that concerns me is stupid people those who will shoot anyone wearing a
turban not realizing more than Muslims wear turbans
I don't know what the answer is and how we are going to solve the problems pending
but we better figure it out because events at the Parliament Building are just the
begiing.

Oh and this poll shows that as many people are divided about no as are in favor

This poll is a crap shoot.

 

[darkbeaver]

T he Chinese will straighten out the ME after the western economic collapse. We got no gold, the papers no good no more, time to move on to the next dog, the emeny approaches, our submarines lurk off our shores even now awaiting the Islamic armada, resolved not to be forcefully converted to Sharia.

 

[BaalsTears]

I disagree -

That is your perogative.

The Saudi;s will make that decision.

KSA is an important player, but not the only one or even the decisive one.

After Obama with his FP decision on the MB Govt in Egypt, Obama was toasted in Egypt and Saudi. The Saudi's are funding the Egyptian Govt.

Yes.

Also by the Camp David accords, US failure to adhere to the terms breaks that treaty. Reason they temporarily suspended aid and did not make it permanent.

Ask TB about the consequences of a nonmaterial breach of agreement.

Syria is the linchpin, along with Iran and no nukes.

Syria is the theater of action. Iran may be the decisive player with true staying power. No nukes? I'm afraid it is too late for that. The Obama Administration has already acknowledged that Iran will soon have nukes. As a result, a new era of nuclear proliferation has opened up in the middle east.

This poll is a crap shoot.

I guess so.

T he Chinese will straighten out the ME after the western economic collapse. We got no gold, the papers no good no more, time to move on to the next dog, the emeny approaches, our submarines lurk off our shores even now awaiting the Islamic armada, resolved not to be forcefully converted to Sharia.

I've come to really admire Chinese statecraft.