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Thank-you Australia, "@ellinghausen: House of Representatives observes moment of silence for Ottawa shooting " #auspol







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@OttawaSunMike: In Thursday's #Sun we echo the PMs message 'WE WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED' #ottnews #OttawaShooting


two words you won't see in this cbc story: islam, muslim

Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, slain Ottawa shooter, had criminal record in Quebec, B.C. - Montreal - CBC News
 

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Canada has over 1 million Muslims. How many have perpetrated, or been convicted of or are on a watch list.
Do the math.
Yet some will rush to judgements, judgements and positions long held that all or that a substantial number of Muslims are threats.
Bshxt.

Every 10 years Canada doubles it's Muslim population. By 2025 we will have a Muslim percentage of population similar to Britain, Sweden and France and here is why you statement above is wrong:

TIME TO KICK ISLAM OUT OF BRITAIN - YouTube
 

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If I had my way I would begin treating this "radicalization" like we do with sexual predators. If one is caught trying to fly out of Canada to join ISIS, or do anything else that warrants special terrorist attention, then they are to be declared dangerous offenders under Canadian law and are locked up indefinitely. Then they can spend then next twenty or thirty years trying to figure out how to convince us that they aren't dangerous.


I like the idea of shooting/hanging them as traitors better, that way you are not paying their "room and board" for the next 20 or 30 years. There's just no need to be keeping these a$$holes in captivity. We've got all we can do supporting people who are disabled through no fault of their own. How much has the likes of Charlie Manson or Sirhan Sirhan cost the U.S.? Just useless pieces of skin!

Every 10 years Canada doubles it's Muslim population. By 2025 we will have a Muslim percentage of population similar to Britain, Sweden and France and here is why you statement above is wrong:

TIME TO KICK ISLAM OUT OF BRITAIN - YouTube


You hang them for their deeds, NOT their religion!
 

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Or how about the terrorists in Columbia who actually agreed to a truce with the government?
Those are narco-gangsters and it's spelled Colombia.

If I had my way I would begin treating this "radicalization" like we do with sexual predators. If one is caught trying to fly out of Canada to join ISIS, or do anything else that warrants special terrorist attention, then they are to be declared dangerous offenders under Canadian law and are locked up indefinitely. Then they can spend then next twenty or thirty years trying to figure out how to convince us that they aren't dangerous.

We already do that but the penalties aren't that heavy maybe that will change.

I note the dead criminal had his passport taken away for just that reason.
 

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You hang them for their deeds, NOT their religion!
The UK should be holding their Muslims in country considering that when the get to the Mid-east they star hacking off the heads of reporters being help captive. The group the let out and won't let back in are now in Southern Turkey doing the translation duties between NATO and ISIS.
The latest on that front is ISIS is being bombed all right, the real bombs fail to explode and the crates of weapons that 'accidentally fell on them' was as close as the US has come to doing any real damage. Assad's forces did a lot of damage to them and they are tagging up with the Kurds in Northern Iraq, just like the retaliation bombing that had Iraq want those kinds of jets for themselves.
 

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Don't thank God, thank the people involved.


Ottawa just had its trial by fire. Thank God, it passed

It’s a terrible feeling seeing your capital city in lockdown, with members of Parliament stacking chairs against doors to protect themselves and a soldier laying slain at the foot of the now blood-soaked National War Memorial. I had never had any delusions about Canada being somehow immune from attack. It was inevitable, really. A rich democratic nation, a proud fixture of the Western alliance, would, sooner or later, draw fire. It doesn’t make it any easier to deal with the aftermath — but there is something that might.

This is Canada’s first trial by fire of this type in a long time. We’ve fought in wars abroad and had terrorism at home, but this is something else. Though, at press time, the identity and motive of the attackers is not yet known, the profile of the attack certainly fits the pattern we have seen all over the world. Someone has just sent us a statement intended to shock and horrify us. And while we are all certainly shocked, we have not been cowed. Oct. 22 will be a day of infamy in our history books, but it’s also a day that we can be proud of. When our seat of government was attacked, we fought back, and fought well.

As anyone who has visited Parliament Hill can attest, it is not a heavily fortified facility. Nor should it be — it’s a public building. If you want to go in, you are put through a security sweep (on my last visit, a friendly armed guard had my little girl in giggles as he gently poked and prodded her stroller before letting us in). But that’s about it. You can walk right up to Parliament and knock on the door. There’s nothing to stop you.

So, clearly, an easy target to approach. But by every account available at this early time, when the attack began, despite how accessible the building is, things went reasonably well. The Prime Minister was evacuated to a place of safety while security guards and police officers secured our Members of Parliament. Visitors and journalists in the building were quickly locked down while security forces swept the building and, based on what information is currently known, apparently killed one attacker (who had entered the building) during an exchange of gun fire.

What followed, of course, was frightening and chaotic. The journalists who were keeping the public informed were caught right in the midst of a rapidly evolving security operation, and gave live reports as police officers, with guns drawn, pushed them back further and further away from the site of the shootings. But that, too, is good news. Within minutes of the attack, ordinary patrol officers and heavily armed tactical units converged on the scene, got organized, and moved people out of danger. This is exactly what needed to happen. And it did, quickly.

In the days ahead, the Ottawa police, the RCMP and our intelligence agencies will review everything that happened today. Lapses will be found and improvements suggested — as is ever so. Indeed, police forces and government agencies all around the country will no doubt review their own plans and procedures to see what lessons from Wednesday’s attack on Ottawa can be applied to them. Some things undoubtedly went wrong on Wednesday, and those deficiencies should be found and corrected.

But on the whole, things worked. When our capital city was attacked, police officers, soldiers and security guards stayed calm and focused. The seat of government was defended and the threat eliminated. Members of Parliament calmly took shelter and stayed out of the way. The media did their jobs and kept us informed. And, as shown by an incredible picture taken after a Canadian soldier was gunned down at the War Memorial, everyday citizens joined with soldiers and first responders in (tragically unsuccessful) effort to keep that soldier alive.

Wednesday was a terrible day. There will be more hard days to come. But Canadians can be proud of themselves, their government and especially their military and first responders. They just had their trial by fire. They passed.

http://ww2.nationalpost.com/m/wp/bl...ust-had-its-trial-by-fire-thank-god-it-passed
 

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Ottawa just had its trial by fire. Thank God, it passed

It’s a terrible feeling seeing your capital city in lockdown, with members of Parliament stacking chairs against doors to protect themselves and a soldier laying slain at the foot of the now blood-soaked National War Memorial. I had never had any delusions about Canada being somehow immune from attack. It was inevitable, really. A rich democratic nation, a proud fixture of the Western alliance, would, sooner or later, draw fire. It doesn’t make it any easier to deal with the aftermath — but there is something that might.

This is Canada’s first trial by fire of this type in a long time. We’ve fought in wars abroad and had terrorism at home, but this is something else. Though, at press time, the identity and motive of the attackers is not yet known, the profile of the attack certainly fits the pattern we have seen all over the world. Someone has just sent us a statement intended to shock and horrify us. And while we are all certainly shocked, we have not been cowed. Oct. 22 will be a day of infamy in our history books, but it’s also a day that we can be proud of. When our seat of government was attacked, we fought back, and fought well.

As anyone who has visited Parliament Hill can attest, it is not a heavily fortified facility. Nor should it be — it’s a public building. If you want to go in, you are put through a security sweep (on my last visit, a friendly armed guard had my little girl in giggles as he gently poked and prodded her stroller before letting us in). But that’s about it. You can walk right up to Parliament and knock on the door. There’s nothing to stop you.

So, clearly, an easy target to approach. But by every account available at this early time, when the attack began, despite how accessible the building is, things went reasonably well. The Prime Minister was evacuated to a place of safety while security guards and police officers secured our Members of Parliament. Visitors and journalists in the building were quickly locked down while security forces swept the building and, based on what information is currently known, apparently killed one attacker (who had entered the building) during an exchange of gun fire.

What followed, of course, was frightening and chaotic. The journalists who were keeping the public informed were caught right in the midst of a rapidly evolving security operation, and gave live reports as police officers, with guns drawn, pushed them back further and further away from the site of the shootings. But that, too, is good news. Within minutes of the attack, ordinary patrol officers and heavily armed tactical units converged on the scene, got organized, and moved people out of danger. This is exactly what needed to happen. And it did, quickly.

In the days ahead, the Ottawa police, the RCMP and our intelligence agencies will review everything that happened today. Lapses will be found and improvements suggested — as is ever so. Indeed, police forces and government agencies all around the country will no doubt review their own plans and procedures to see what lessons from Wednesday’s attack on Ottawa can be applied to them. Some things undoubtedly went wrong on Wednesday, and those deficiencies should be found and corrected.

But on the whole, things worked. When our capital city was attacked, police officers, soldiers and security guards stayed calm and focused. The seat of government was defended and the threat eliminated. Members of Parliament calmly took shelter and stayed out of the way. The media did their jobs and kept us informed. And, as shown by an incredible picture taken after a Canadian soldier was gunned down at the War Memorial, everyday citizens joined with soldiers and first responders in (tragically unsuccessful) effort to keep that soldier alive.

Wednesday was a terrible day. There will be more hard days to come. But Canadians can be proud of themselves, their government and especially their military and first responders. They just had their trial by fire. They passed.

What more cut and paste from MentalRetard and not link to source??

Oh there we go link now added.
 

mentalfloss

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Could you wait two more minutes for the edit?

What's wrong with you?

Edit about the edited response to my edit: Thank you.
 

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There's a huge difference between allowing somebody into parliament with a bag of marbles and allowing somebody into parliament with a gun. Marbles aren't really considered to be lethal objects and are usually not the terrorists' first choice of weapon.

The British Parliament has a ring of steel around it like almost no other parliament in the Western world, as a result of Irish terrorism back in the Seventies and Eighties. That ring of steel was then increased in more recent years due to Islamic terrorism. No member of the public with a gun will ever be allowed, under any circumstances, into the British Houses of Parliament even if he or she doesn't intend to commit a terrorist attack, never mind had he just been on a shooting spree outside and killed a British soldier.

One of the two guests were saying last night on the nightly Sky News newspaper review of the next day's newspaper (10.30pm - 11.00 pm and then 11.30pm to midnight) that it's baffling to most people in Britain that a man with a gun was allowed to get into the Canadian Parliament after he had been on a shooting spree outside and that maybe the Canadians had been complacent and that they were never expecting such an attack to happen on Canadian soil (even though Canada took part in the war in Afghanistan and is now taking part in the campaign against ISIS), so security around the parliament building wasn't as tight as it is in, say Britain and America.

Canada shooting exposes possible security problems, experts say | Al Jazeera America
 

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There's a huge difference between allowing somebody into parliament with a bag of marbles and allowing somebody into parliament with a gun. Marbles aren't really considered to be lethal objects and are usually not the terrorists' first choice of weapon.

WTF are you jabbering on about.. with all the Buses being blown up, or subway bombs, a soldier hacked to death in the streets.. you'd think your would be a little more compassionate.
 

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“Canadians might have become complacent because we have not had overt terror attacks or threats inside our country, whereas obviously the United States has," said Geoff Norquay, a principal at Earnscliffe Strategy Group, a Canadian public policy consultancy. "Canada has been surprisingly free of this type of thing until this week. We were perhaps not quite as concerned or vigilant as we might have been.”

WTF are you jabbering on about.. with all the Buses being blown up, or subway bombs, a soldier hacked to death in the streets.. you'd think your would be a little more compassionate.


There was only one bus blown up.

Plus, highlighting lax security isn't being uncompassionate.
 

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“Canadians might have become complacent because we have not had overt terror attacks or threats inside our country, whereas obviously the United States has," said Geoff Norquay, a principal at Earnscliffe Strategy Group, a Canadian public policy consultancy. "Canada has been surprisingly free of this type of thing until this week. We were perhaps not quite as concerned or vigilant as we might have been.”

2 Islamist nut bars are not going to change Canadians... we won't be intimidated by a few crazies.

We won't live in fear.. we are not the USA, paranoid about anyone who looks Arab.
 

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