The Syria Thread: Everything you wanted to know or say about it

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EagleSmack

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At will. And we will do it again tonight so Putin and Iran can kiss our red, white, and blue arses.


WTF are they gonna do? lmao
 

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www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUpwvZwUam-URkxB7g4USKpg&v=j5OYeBQdrFE

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/syrias-ruling-regime-liked-obamas-164900544.html
Islamic State (which is also known as ISIS or ISIL) is one of many groups who have been fighting the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad since 2011. Jaafari, who represents the regime, expressed support for US efforts to combat Islamic State and another jihadist opposition group, Jabhat al Nusra. However, he criticized US efforts to arm other more moderate elements of the Syrian opposition, which began in conjunction with the strikes this month.
"The approach used by President Obama was a rather constructive one except in the small part where he contradicted himself by saying USA, I mean his administration, would support what he called 'the Syrian opposition' to fight ISIS, and ISIL, and Jabhat al Nusra in Syria," said Jaafari, adding, "He shouldn't have said that in this way."
Jaafari said the US should make the Assad regime its "partner" as it fights jihadist groups in Syria.
"We are a legitimate government. Nobody has the authorization, or the permission, or the power to work against a legitimate government elected by its own people," Jaafari said. "We need to be a full-fledged partner while combatting terrorism in Syria, and Iraq, and elsewhere."
Jaafari also criticized other Middle Eastern nations that have partnered with the US in its efforts to combat ISIS as sponsors of terrorism.
"USA needs reliable partners. They don't need Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey because these regimes are the ones who funded terrorsim in Syria, and Iraq, and all over the area," said Jaafari. "These regimes are the ones who spread terrorism — religious terrorism in the area, such as ISIS, ISIL, Jabhat al Nusra."

lol, at least the US is back being the one the world knows and 'loves' (because they are so predictable) They seem to have missed the ones in Iraq that is netting ISIS a few million/day.
US strikes IS oil refineries in Syria
US, Saudi and Emirati warplanes broadened their bombardment to target the oil installations in eastern Syria that have helped fund the jihadist group's brutal rise from rebel faction to alleged global threat.
The strikes came as Obama urged leaders gathered at the UN General Assembly to join his coalition and convinced the Security Council to back a resolution to stem the flow of foreign fighters that has swelled the IS ranks.
Belgium and the Netherlands committed warplanes to Iraq and Britain said its parliament would vote Friday on following suit.

At will. And we will do it again tonight so Putin and Iran can kiss our red, white, and blue arses.


WTF are they gonna do? lmao
Bomb more empty buildings. Scarey.
I don't see it being in Syria's best interest with helping ISIS by attacking their air-farce. I'm pretty sure you don't want the troops coming home in flag covered boxes. Syrian and Russia could remove the forces in Turkey and Iran could take care of Afghanistan and Iraq. Only the US or Israel would opt for that kind of action.
The West already lost Crimea, they will lose everything if they get ponded in just one location. How long does a bully last once the one being bullied know their soft spot? Not long is the right answer. America should repair the inside of her country why it can still be repaired. Once the power is out you will be feeding on yourselves and the world will make sure nobody comes to stop it.

The 2nd and 3rd nights were spent attacking ISIS controlled refineries. lol Evey goo ISIS terrorist knows the best hiding spot in a bombing run is behind a big tank of jet fuel. I guess all that Seseme Street education is paying off big time for the US admin.
 
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EagleSmack

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Babble on MHz... you've been here since 2007 babbling aboot the end.




And BTW...


Your mom is so fat that you have to grease the door frame and hold a twinkie on the other side just to get her through.
 

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Ah yes the bad old days, Holocaust and God and I wonder why I didn't fit in here too well. I wonder if dex's X-mas dinners with his RCC inlaws has changed any. & years, same time I would have gotten for a felony and the felony probably would have been more rewarding than what I've gotten from you and the usual suspects.

Look at it as your 7 year tribulation

Mom's pretty skinny now, 5 years in the grave will do that to any body. If you went before your Mom would she throw a party?
 

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The recent airstrikes by the United States and its allies allegedly against ISIS positions in Syria have been soundly condemned by both Iran and Russia . Both countries have accurately pointed out that the airstrikes were a violation of Syria’s national sovereignty and a violation of international law.
I've been against this from the start, but if Russia and Iran are against it, I may have to rethink this.

On the other hand. . .


The battle against the Islamic State is not ours to fight or win

By Bernard E. Trainor September 24

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and his band of Islamic State zealots received international attention for their brutality and lightning sweep across Iraq, but the United States should know better than to respond with a clarion call to battle. We have already been burned trying to solve the Rubik’s cube of the Middle East. U.S. actions in the region should remain calculating, patient — and detached.

The Islamic State presents a problem to be managed, not a war to be won. Much of what it occupies in Syria and Iraq is useless desert. The situation is stabilizing, largely because of limited U.S. airstrikes, and the immediate crisis is over. The Iraqi Kurds have stiffened their defenses, and Shiites backed by Iran are defending Baghdad. Even Anbar Province’s Sunni tribes pose a problem for the interlopers.

The Islamic State blitzkrieg can be seen as the latest iteration of the struggle for ascendancy by radical Muslims, but at the core it is a local matter, and brutality is unfortunately part of the package. The U.S. role should be limited to helping Kurdish forces and the new Baghdad government better organize to keep the pressure on, with U.S. airstrikes contingent on their progress. The president’s attempt to form an international posse to assist makes sense, and the results have been reasonably encouraging. France and a fistful of Arab states are already actively engaged.

But it is a stalemate in the making. The United States could break the stalemate by introducing ground combat forces, but all that would achieve is the recovery of lost ground. Meanwhile, the Islamic State could dodge and feint, drawing U.S. troops into the Syrian maelstrom. There is no appetite in the United States for that.

The idea of destroying the Islamic State, an expression of a centuries-old goal to establish a caliphate in the Muslim world, and restoring stability is nonsense. Stability, in the peaceful sense of the word, is a chimera. More realistic would be to accept a tolerable level of violence within the region so long as no faction that is a direct U.S. threat achieves dominance. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper’s view is that the Islamic State poses only a “strategic threat . . . long term.” Terrorism, from myriad Islamist groups, is the more clear and present danger.

The situation in Mesopotamia is a violent game of mistrust and self-interest. The Saudis despise the Iranians but will cut deals with them if doing so is in their interest. Iran will play any card necessary to achieve regional hegemony, while Turkey is coy about its own quest for preeminence. The Gulf States talk out of both sides of their mouths. Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad uses the Islamic State to create problems for other rebels. Iraq plays at democracy as long as it can subjugate the Sunnis. Shiites and Sunnis fight each other while carrying on intramural warfare with their kinsmen. The double-dealing is almost endless. It doesn’t make sense to us, but it does to the players.

After more than a decade of frustration and humiliation, the United States should have learned that the Middle East is no place for Wilsonianism on steriods. Obama cut his teeth as a community organizer on the mean streets of Chicago. He should be wary of journeying too far into a bad neighborhood when he sees one.

The writer, a retired Marine lieutenant general, is co-author of “The Endgame: The Inside Story of the Struggle for Iraq, from George W. Bush to Barack Obama.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernard-trainor-the-battle-against-the-islamic-state-is-not-ours-to-fight-or-win/2014/09/24/6eb0b294-4357-11e4-b437-1a7368204804_story.html?hpid=z6
 
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David Cameron last night urged Britain to shake off the spectre of the Iraq war and back potentially YEARS of RAF strikes against the ‘psychopathic murderers’ of Islamic State.

MPs have been scrambled for an emergency recall of Parliament tomorrow to sanction bombing raids on terrorist positions in northern Iraq.

All three main party leaders indicated support for air strikes, and the attacks are expected to begin as early as tomorrow night.

But the Prime Minister said the fight against Islamic terrorism could last for years.

Mr Cameron, who last night held talks with Iraqi prime minister Haider al-Abadi to finalise military plans, stressed that British troops would not be sent back to Iraq.

And he said that any bombing raids on IS forces in Syria would have to be subject to a separate vote in Parliament.

In a speech to the United Nations general assembly in New York, Mr Cameron acknowledged the long shadow cast by the disastrous legacy of the 2003 Iraq war, which left the region in near anarchy - and, some say, sowed the seeds of the rise of Islamic State.

The RAF is preparing for bombing raids using Storm Shadow 'bunker busters', Brimstone missiles and Paveway IV bombs


We must deal with these psychopathic murderers says Cameron as RAF prepares for bombing raids using Storm Shadow 'bunker busters', Brimstone missiles and Paveway IV bombs


MPs have been recalled to Parliament tomorrow to sanction strikes on IS positions in Syria and Iraq

All three party leaders indicated support for air campaign, and the attacks could begin as early as tomorrow night

But the Prime Minister warned the fight against Islamic terrorism could last for years


By Jason Groves and James Chapman for the Daily Mail
25 September 2014
Daily Mail

Watch the British Prime Minister's speech to the 69th UN General Assembly: David Cameron Speech United Nations General Assembly UK PM David Cameron UN Speech ISIS - YouTube

David Cameron last night urged Britain to shake off the spectre of the Iraq war and back potentially years of RAF strikes against the ‘psychopathic murderers’ of Islamic State.

MPs have been scrambled for an emergency recall of Parliament tomorrow to sanction bombing raids on terrorist positions in northern Iraq.

All three main party leaders indicated support for air strikes, and the attacks are expected to begin as early as tomorrow night.

But the Prime Minister said the fight against Islamic terrorism could last for years.

Mr Cameron, who last night held talks with Iraqi prime minister Haider al-Abadi to finalise military plans, stressed that British troops would not be sent back to Iraq.




The world stage: Prime Minister David Cameron speaks at the 69th United Nations General Assembly in New York City yesterday, where he called on his fellow national leaders to join in the campaign against Islamist extremism from Iraq and Syria to Yemen, Libya and Nigeria

And he said that any bombing raids on IS forces in Syria would have to be subject to a separate vote in Parliament.

In a speech to the United Nations general assembly in New York, Mr Cameron acknowledged the long shadow cast by the disastrous legacy of the 2003 Iraq war, which left the region in near anarchy - and, some say, sowed the seeds of the rise of Islamic State.

But he said it was vital to 'learn the right lessons - Yes to careful preparation; no to rushing to join a conflict without a clear plan'.

Mr Cameron warned: 'We must not be so frozen with fear that we don't do anything at all.

'Isolation and withdrawing from a problem like Isil will only make things worse.

'We must not allow past mistakes to become an excuse for indifference or inaction.'

Action against IS should be 'comprehensive, intelligent and inclusive', working with partners in the region, potentially including Iran - whose president Hassan Rouhani he met for historic talks at the UN.

And he added: 'We should be uncompromising, using all the means at our disposal - including military force - to hunt down these extremists.'

The struggle with extremism must be waged not only against IS in Iraq and Syria, but also against Boko Haram in Nigeria, Al-Shabaab in Somalia, Ansar Al-Sharia in Libya and al-Qaida in Yemen, Mr Cameron said.

While the threat would not be best solved by Western ground troops 'directly trying to pacify or reconstruct Middle Eastern or African countries', there was a place for the military in training, advising and supporting humanitarian missions, as well as in responding to the Iraqi government's request to the UN for support.

'My message today is simple,' he told the UN. 'We are facing an evil against which the whole world must unite. And, as ever in the cause of freedom, democracy and justice, Britain will play its part.'

Ahead of his speech he told reporters: ‘This is completely different to 2003. Everyone can see that Isil (IS) is a direct threat to the UK. They have taken hostages, they have conducted plots to kill and maim British citizens. They are a clear and present danger to the United Kingdom. They are also clearly a massive danger to the region.


RAF Tornado GR4 fighter bombers fly in formation as two refuel from a VC-10 in 2009. Six of the fighters are currently based at RAF Akrotiri in the British Overseas Territory of Akrotiri and Dhekelia on Cyprus


David Cameron last night urged Britain to shake off the spectre of the Iraq war and back RAF strikes against the ‘psychopathic murderers’ of Islamic State

‘So this organisation is a direct threat. We need to be part of a comprehensive strategy to degrade and ultimately destroy it. It’s right that Britain plays our part in that. ‘This is going to take time, there’s no doubt about that, but it’s right to be part of this action. The Iraqi government has requested it and we have capabilities that are needed for it and so it’s the right thing to do.’

IS has murdered three Western hostages in recent weeks and is now threatening to kill kidnapped British taxi driver Alan Henning.

Some relatives of Mr Henning have warned this week that air strikes could reduce the hopes of ever seeing him alive again.

Mr Cameron acknowledged their plight, but insisted Britain now had to take the fight to IS.


An IS militant fires a rocket propelled grenade launcher during fighting near the Syrian Kurdish town of Ain al-Arab, known as Kobane by the Kurds


Barrage: An IS militant fires a heavy machine gun during the fighting. Some 140,000 mainly Kurdish refugees have now crossed the border into Turkey after the militants moved on the town of Ain al-Arab


An IS militant firing a cannon mounted on a truck during fighting near the Syrian Kurdish town of Ain al-Arab

He said: ‘It’s a desperate situation but let’s be clear about two things.

‘One is that we are dealing with psychopathic murderous brutal people who will stop at nothing to carry out dreadful acts on these hostages.

‘And secondly, it’s very important that we do the right thing as a country and we stick to the path that we set out about having a comprehensive strategy including all the elements at our disposal – humanitarian aid, diplomacy and also where appropriate military action.’

The Prime Minister said Britain would never give up the hunt for Jihadi John, the British extremist thought to have beheaded three hostages. Asked if he wanted him to face justice in a British court, a visibly angry Mr Cameron said: ‘I’m not sure I can describe in words what I’d like to happen to him, but I’m not going to say any more about it. He should see justice one way or another.’



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Well, it's either a government function (one of the defined duties of the PM), in which case it's not personal, or it's phone sex, in which case it is.


Everything discussed between the Head of Government and the Head of State in their weekly meetings is personal and private.
 

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Everything discussed between the Head of Government and the Head of State in their weekly meetings is personal and private.
Private, possibly. If it's personal, they're not doing their jobs.

You really don't understand what the word "personal" means, do you?

Still, a fainting nancy-boy and a quim-lapping octogenarian diesel dyke are actually an excellent representation of Britain in the 21st century.
 

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Private, possibly. If it's personal, they're not doing their jobs.

You really don't understand what the word "personal" means, do you?

Still, a fainting nancy-boy and a quim-lapping octogenarian diesel dyke are actually an excellent representation of Britain in the 21st century.


Yep. I forgot, You're an expert on the workings of the British political system, despite the fact you probably never even knew that the PM and the Monarch have, for many years, met each other every week for private, personal conversations that are strictly between themselves and nobody else until I mentioned it earlier on.
 

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Yep. I forgot, You're an expert on the workings of the British political system, despite the fact you probably never even knew that the PM and the Monarch have, for many years, met each other every week for private, personal conversations that are strictly between themselves and nobody else until I mentioned it earlier on.
Then they talk about only things that cost the taxpayer a single dime. They both receive public funds for 'their time' they have no expectation of privacy when crimes are being investigated, vote fraud is still a crime. (Yes, I'm going to repeat things)

Private, possibly. If it's personal, they're not doing their jobs.

You really don't understand what the word "personal" means, do you?

Still, a fainting nancy-boy and a quim-lapping octogenarian diesel dyke are actually an excellent representation of Britain in the 21st century.
Which hand I hold the toilet paper in would be a personal matter. Where I got the paper from is not a personal matter if any TP has been stolen anywhere in the kingdom.

Canada is lock-step with the UK, the US used to have the instructions on how to break the siege. Did the only copy happen to be at the Alamo that fateful time?

((here is the subliminal message meant to tug on your heart strings and to decide that belonging to the majority when the majority is 'wrong' Die with you head held high or live with your eyes on the dusty path))
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oQrZGAwfC0
 

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Hey Mhz...


Your mom is so poor, I saw her kicking a can down the street and asked her what she was doing and she said "moving."


 

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Yep. I forgot, You're an expert on the workings of the British political system, despite the fact you probably never even knew that the PM and the Monarch have, for many years, met each other every week for private, personal conversations that are strictly between themselves and nobody else until I mentioned it earlier on.

Yes, clearly I didn't know that, which is why I referred to it as one of the PM's duties.

BNP Lite is the right party for you. Your intellect makes you the ideal chu. . . er, member.


You're right. The Onion is accurate, serious journalism compared to Pravda Today.
 

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Hey Mhz...


Your mom is so poor, I saw her kicking a can down the street and asked her what she was doing and she said "moving."
Saw your Mom and your other Mom the other day, they sure do get friendly with each other when not swinging on the pole. Gotta say, all that loose skin makes the look like a 'normal body' would look like in a 200moh wind. Get too close and their buts will be like a handslap across the cheek, twice. Brown lipstick in between so don't lick it. Cheers.