Calgary Fertility Clinic Refuses White Patient a Non-White Donor

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Okay, the gallery has spoken on the subject
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Still waiting for you to show all those posts you show of how outraged you are on Muslim treatment of women and gays.


Show me how outraged you are on honor killings.....bet that pisses you off.
 
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Oh oh my TAX DOLLARS are involved too. I think clinics shouldn't be able to discriminate on the basis of race. OK, so that's one TAXPAYER for and one TAXPAYER against. Let's get some more TAXPAYERS in here to break the tie.

Everyone who isn't a TAXPAYER please leave. This is a serious conversation for TAXPAYERS only.
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We should just assassinate all children.


Except the ones that pay taxes.
 
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Grievous said:
Still waiting for you to show all those posts you show of how outraged you are on Muslim treatment of women and gays.


Show me how outraged you are on honor killings.....bet that pisses you off.
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You found them all.
Oddly enough it was the same number for Christians and Jews also. For their size in number one group is way ahead of the other two combined in some stats.
Yes it was a sad day when Prescott Bush took his life rather than admit he was tricked into becoming a traitor to his own country. News flash, unless Jeb Bush steps up that remorse will not be made available this century.

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We should just assassinate all children.


Except the ones that pay taxes.
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That is so dumb, . . . do it right after they pay.
 
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You found them all.
Oddly enough it was the same number for Christians and Jews also. For their size in number one group is way ahead of the other two combined in some stats.
Yes it was a sad day when Prescott Bush took his life rather than admit he was tricked into becoming a traitor to his own country. News flash, unless Jeb Bush steps up that remorse will not be made available this century.
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Jews and Christians are sawing the heads off of children?


Do tell?
 
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Maybe this chick could get the 'qualities' she wants from a walking sperm donor down at the local bar.
 
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hey man, she knows the 'qualities' she wants, who are we or any clinic to guess. best she do the job like a big girl I think.
 
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She might not want to do it the old fashioned way because she's into girls?
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neil the dating-pimp might help her out.

 
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Grievous said:
Jews and Christians are sawing the heads off of children?


Do tell?
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So neither group has any part in the deaths of the 24,000 children that die every day? I would think the world's most overweight gluttons on the planet would want to take credit for a few of the famine victims. I'll even give them a pass on keeping basic health care from them as to get to look like we do that takes some serious chemestry in it's own right.

The ones doing the wanton terrorism against civilians has a history that can be traced back quite easily. You cannot rule Iran like it was ruled for 25 years and not take credit to the way the secret police operated. In 1979 they way they ran things was overrun and it was the South America's turn to endure what came to be called 'death squads'. Sooner or later somebody was bound to ask 'WTF is going on?' and everybody there decided to change things, just like in Iran did in 1979. About that same time Jimmy Carter was hiring the overlords in Afghanistan to terrorize the ruling government that was adopting all the UN rights that elevated women into the light of mainstream social life in education, politics and business. That is about as Christian as it gets for the recent (bloody part) past, nobody said false Christians weren't welcome at the party.

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Said the fly to the fly.
 
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hey man, she knows the 'qualities' she wants, who are we or any clinic to guess. best she do the job like a big girl I think.
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You know women real well eh.


Must have some lonely nights hanging around in bars waiting for those chicks to show up looking to get some premium sperm, considering by your determination, that they have high standards.
 
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A Calgary fertility clinic tried to tamp down “rainbow” families

A Calgary fertility clinic would like you to know that it no longer requires clients to limit themselves to choosing donors of similar ethnicities to their own. Any more.

The Regional Fertility Program found itself the center of international headlines this week, after, as the Globe and Mail reports, one of its doctors “told a single Caucasian woman seeking in vitro fertilization that she could receive sperm from only white donors.” The woman, known only as Catherine, says, ”That’s when everything went downhill. I was absolutely floored.”

That directive certainly seemed in line with the policy stated on its site, which as of Monday still explained, “It is the practice of the Regional Fertility Program not to permit the use of a sperm donor that would result in a future child appearing racially different than the recipient or the recipient’s partner.” And a private facility, its policy demonstrated that it’s part of a system in which doctors and administrators can, as Matt Gysler, former president of the Canadian Fertility and Andrology Society says, “essentially write their own rules and then the clinic, which is maybe a group of physicians, will rewrite their own rules and then agree to practice in a similar way.”

But after receiving an onslaught of surprised news stories and attention, the clinic has attempted to clarify itself – though it hasn’t done a bang-up job of sounding like it has a truly firm handle on the whole “It’s the 21st century and mixing races is perfectly okay” thing. Instead, clinic spokeswoman Paula Arab issued a statement that “For more than a year, patients of the Regional Fertility Program have had the choice of egg or sperm donors of any ethnicity.

Unfortunately, this change in policy was not updated on our website, which is currently under construction. This was an oversight and that older policy has now been removed.” On its site, the clinic similarly disputed the “erroneous media reports about a policy that restricts patients to using donors of the same ethnicity,” vowing that “No such policy exists…. Since changing our policy last year, the clinic has treated numerous patients who have requested donors of different ethnicity.” All hail the Regional Fertility Program, unafraid of miscegenation since 2013! A whole year ago! And booooo to those irresponsible media reports that directly quoted our own doctors and promotional materials!

The clinic now explains that “Ethics and ethical debates have always characterized the topic of fertility treatments and will likely continue to do so in future but these difficult issues should not detract from the core work of the Regional Fertility Program in assisting individuals and couples create families. The change in policy reflects the multicultural society we live in today. The Regional Fertility Program respects ethnic diversity and the autonomy of the reproductive choices made by our patients.” One could say thanks a bunch for that grudging respect for helping create multiracial families — a subject of “debate” and a “difficult issue” — but it’s still hard to feel convinced it’s totally on board. Administrative director Dr. Calvin

Green “confirmed” to the Calgary Herald just on Saturday that the clinic would not assist couples or individuals who wanted to conceive children of different ethnicities, saying that the no mixing policy had been in place since the clinic launched in the 1980′s. “I’m not sure that we should be creating rainbow families just because some single woman decides that that’s what she wants,” he said, in a statement dismissive of both mixed race families and single mothers. “That’s her prerogative, but that’s not her prerogative in our clinic.” He added that the clinic believed “A child of an ethnic background should have the ability to be able to identify with their ethnic roots” and that clients should have a “cultural connection” to their donors.

“I would ask you,” Green asked in his weekend interview, “why would you not choose somebody of your own cultural background?” How about, because none of your business? Additionally, potential client Catherine said that by the time she looked at the pool of healthy donors of her own race, she was left with a small number, and that she was less interested in race than a healthy baby anyway. “Frankly, it’s appalling how many people have the same donors, probably because of this policy,” she added. “A friend of mine just went through this process and used the donor that I would have picked.” But Green countered, “She needs to look harder, because I can tell you reasonable people can easily find a suitable donor.”

Yeah, this sounds like it’s totally her problem here.
Five years ago, the Alberta Human Rights Commission upheld the clinic’s policy, after a couple who had no infertility issues attempted to use their facilities to conceive a child of a different race. But on Monday, the clinic insisted, “The comments in recent news reports that were attributed to Dr. Cal Greene represent his own opinions and do not reflect policies at the clinic. Dr. Greene, a respected fertility physician, was speaking as an individual physician on the ethics of fertility.”

Yet it’s hard to imagine how thoroughly respectable Greene will continue to be, with more people now knowing his thoughts on single parents and “rainbow” families. The clinic may have revised its written policy but its attitudes seem to remain deeply engrained. Whether you’re going to a clinic or doing things the more old-fashioned way, the question every person contemplating starting a family needs to consider very seriously is, who do I really want to make a baby with? And that’s a question usually best determined not by race, but the heart and the mind.

A Calgary fertility clinic tried to tamp down “rainbow” families - Salon.com
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I have a relative who adopted a black baby and the family- red haired dad and blonde haired mom are quite happy with their very heavily sun tanned child- but they do admit it makes for problems sometimes in situations involving outside authorities- and no doubt it is this that the clinic is trying to avoid?

And one has to wonder at the private thoughts of a black kid going down the street with red haired dad regarding the issue of race and education and economics?

Will the child parent bond hold over the long term in a situation like that? LIE-berals view the deal through rose coloured glasses and leave any future messes for others to clean up!
 
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