Higher wages for foreign workers

Twila

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If that is the case then why shouldn't they get paid more?



Raising the cost of temporary workers will reduce the number of cases where people are using temporary workers just because they don't want to pay competitive wages to local workers, and help ensure that people only use them in the event that they actually can't find anyone local to do the job.


Yeah, that's what I said. Not sure why I was grouped with the "you guys"
 

coldstream

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It's time to mandate that all companies hire Canadians FIRST if they are equally qualified for the job.. AND that ALL workers receive the SAME salary and benfits for similar work.. respecting minimum wage laws. Otherwise industries will find ways to scam the system and bring in foreign workers at low price.. and with no options to organize unions or move to other employers.

The whole program is sell-out to Corporate Canada's willingness to shunt its national employees in the name of profit by hiring cheap, indentured labour.. AND by moving industry off shore without any restriction on moving that same product back.. at First World Prices.. without any requirement to support that economy with their payrolls.

It's Free Trade in action.. and its driving us into an economic collapse.
 
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BornRuff

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In matters pertaining to labour common sense doesn't apply.

I really can't see what sort of "common sense" you are working off here.

You listed three points in your first post. You want workers to be judged on competence, work ethic, and ensure that local people have first dibs.

Raising the cost of temporary foreign workers addresses all of those concerns. Obviously companies are going to look for local workers first if it costs them more to bring in foreign workers. If foreign workers cost more and they can get local workers for cheaper, they would never pay the higher foreign worker rates unless the foreign worker is better at the job in some way. All else the same, they would always go with the local worker since it would be cheaper and there would be less red tape.

Where do you see an issue in this?
 

Count_Lothian

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There are benefits to to hiring foreign workers.
Imposable to unionize them.
No need for medical benefits such a dental plan.
Pensions, you don't get no stinkin pensions.

It's popping up all over the place about abuse issues, especially when it comes to overtime pay.

Wet backs just don't have the same rights as us real people.
 

EagleSmack

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Oh look... did the incestuous tard get mad?



LMAO
 

BornRuff

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There are benefits to to hiring foreign workers.
Imposable to unionize them.
No need for medical benefits such a dental plan.
Pensions, you don't get no stinkin pensions.

It's popping up all over the place about abuse issues, especially when it comes to overtime pay.

Wet backs just don't have the same rights as us real people.

Actually there are a lot of extra costs associated with hiring these workers.

The employer has to pay for private medical insurance for the worker until they live here long enough to qualify for provincial health coverage.

They need to pay for travel to and from their home country.
 

Count_Lothian

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Actually there are a lot of extra costs associated with hiring these workers.

The employer has to pay for private medical insurance for the worker until they live here long enough to qualify for provincial health coverage.

They need to pay for travel to and from their home country.
Under the revised rules now that the Canadian government was caught with their pants down.
 

BornRuff

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Under the revised rules now that the Canadian government was caught with their pants down.

I'm pretty sure the health coverage thing has always been there. The government never wants to be stuck with paying for uninsured migrant workers if they get sick.

The government is pretty good at covering their own asses.
 

Twila

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There was a recent report in the news about a lady who was from Peru and married to a Canadian. She'd been here just about a year or just over a year and was due to give birth. She was told she could not be put on her husbands medical and would have to pay $20,000 hospital fees in order to have her baby here.

Would that her case be different then foreign workers? Would they be given special exemption and so qualify for health benefits?
 

Count_Lothian

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"Imposable" to unionize them.... lmao
I realize we share a common language with the americans, and one wonders if it is a language issue or just stupidity that gets in the way.

The concept of "temporary" workers eagleschmuck seems to elude you.
No union would dare venture trying to unionize temporary foreign workers and have those workers ask of their union to use their resources and legal teams to keep them in a country that is kicking them out at the end of their term.

Do I need to explain it in finer detail , or can I assume that you have a semblance of comprehension.
 

EagleSmack

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I realize we share a common language with the americans, and one wonders if it is a language issue or just stupidity that gets in the way.

The concept of "temporary" workers eagleschmuck seems to elude you.
No union would dare venture trying to unionize temporary foreign workers and have those workers ask of their union to use their resources and legal teams to keep them in a country that is kicking them out at the end of their term.

Do I need to explain it in finer detail , or can I assume that you have a semblance of comprehension.

Actually I was just laughing at "imposable". You with your superior intelligence and all.
 

JLM

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I really can't see what sort of "common sense" you are working off here.

You listed three points in your first post. You want workers to be judged on competence, work ethic, and ensure that local people have first dibs.

Raising the cost of temporary foreign workers addresses all of those concerns. Obviously companies are going to look for local workers first if it costs them more to bring in foreign workers. If foreign workers cost more and they can get local workers for cheaper, they would never pay the higher foreign worker rates unless the foreign worker is better at the job in some way. All else the same, they would always go with the local worker since it would be cheaper and there would be less red tape.

Where do you see an issue in this?

If there is no suitable local worker available why should a company have to pay a worker a higher wage if he/she doesn't have any extra qualifications? That's just dumb!
 

EagleSmack

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Yep, the sane members are a pretty practical and pragmatic bunch!

Or not as opening.

It's OK JLM. It happens. I know it is easier to be amused at the struggle of others from afar. However when it hits home as this clearly has in Canada, it brings out a side that you've kept hidden.
 

BornRuff

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Would that her case be different then foreign workers? Would they be given special exemption and so qualify for health benefits?

There are a ton of different possible immigration statuses, so I can't comment on what might have happened in her case.

In most cases in Ontario you can access provincial health insurance 3 months after you have established some sort of legal residency in Ontario.
 

JLM

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There was a recent report in the news about a lady who was from Peru and married to a Canadian. She'd been here just about a year or just over a year and was due to give birth. She was told she could not be put on her husbands medical and would have to pay $20,000 hospital fees in order to have her baby here.

Would that her case be different then foreign workers? Would they be given special exemption and so qualify for health benefits?

THAT is just plain mean spirited. $500 a day hospital fees might be reasonable. I suppose a line has to be drawn somewhere, but I think that was in the wrong place.
 

BornRuff

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If there is no suitable local worker available why should a company have to pay a worker a higher wage if he/she doesn't have any extra qualifications? That's just dumb!

Money is a great way to keep people honest. Businesses often say there are no workers available when they actually could find workers if they just paid them more.

Making it cost more means that companies wont hire TFW unless they really need them.