1500 Year Old Bible Claims Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

[cj44]

Trinity ONE God/Three Persons

God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit

Difficult to grasp? Yes
Concepts used to express this mystery are inadequate.

 

[EagleSmack]

Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul “The Impostor”. The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place.
Read more at 1500 Year Old Bible Claims Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified – Vatican In Awe |Higher Perspective​

I see intolerance is alive and well in you Cliff.

I'm fine this sunny morning. A little too early in the day to be up, but I'll manage. It is you that I worry about. I think you have a very kind heart but that you have been lead astray.

Why don't you give him a good ol' Pagan smudging and cleanse the kind lad.

 

[Sal]

Trinity ONE God/Three Persons

God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit

Difficult to grasp? Yes
Concepts used to express this mystery are inadequate.

this is a good illustration:

 

[Spade]

Spade,
No doubt we shall differ in opinion, but, Saul met Jesus on the road to Damascus. Jesus is capable of that sort of thing. God has some serious attributes.

Jeepers, I thought Saul was struck dumb (and blind).

 

[Cliffy]

3 in 1 and it's a mystery...least that is what I was taught...

3 in 1 is a lubricant.

 

[cj44]

No. In my experience that statement is false.

Dex,
Your experience is not over. Maybe a little more patience is in order.
Remember the parable of the persistent widow? I know you are likely to ask why you would have to nag the Living God? I answer, I have no idea. Just keep seeking.

Outstanding Sal! (Trinity)

 

[Spade]

this is a good illustration:

So Shiva, Brahma, and Vishnu are different manifestations of the same divinity, just like Western Christianity. Note: Eastern Christianity has quite a different concept.
Brahma : Hindu Gods trinity : Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva

 

[cj44]

Jeepers, I thought Saul was struck dumb (and blind).

Spade,
And.... Where you going with that?

 

[Cliffy]

3 in 1 = god is schizophrenic. There are medications for that.

 

[Spade]

You are ignoring all the other gods! Jesus knows the skies are filled with them. You have not read the true scripture - the Bhagavad Gita. Your views are too ethnocentric cj44,

 

[Motar]

Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul “The Impostor”. The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place. Read more at 1500 Year Old Bible Claims Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified – Vatican In Awe |Higher Perspective

The cited website "Higher Perspective" references the following 2 sources for this news article, Cliffy:

http://sonsonthepyre.com/
Sons on the Pyre is an experimental Rock & Electronica band from San Juan, Puerto Rico.

National Turk English News
"National Turk" in an online Turkish news site.

The "National Turk" article does not reference any sources, so it is the presumed origin of this news.
1500 year-old ‘ Syriac ‘ Bible found in Ankara, Turkey : Vatican in shock !

The above news article dated February 23, 2012 presents some divergence of opinion concerning the authenticity of this bible (book).

"Turkish police testified in a court hearing they believe the manuscript in the bible could be about 1500 to 2000 years old." "Experts were however divided over the provenance of the manuscript, and whether it was an original, which would render it priceless, or a fake." 1500 year-old ‘ Syriac ‘ Bible found in Ankara, Turkey : Vatican in shock !

 

[Spade]

Vatican in shock? What's next, women priestesses?

 

[cj44]

3 in 1 = god is schizophrenic. There are medications for that.

Cliffy!!!!

You are ignoring all the other gods! Jesus knows the skies are filled with them. You have not read the true scripture - the Bhagavad Gita. Your views are too ethnocentric cj44,

Spade,
This is a forum. Different views are to be expected. I enjoy all the thoughts & comments.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Dex,
Your experience is not over. Maybe a little more patience is in order.

That particular experience is over for me, at least as far as any initiative of mine is concerned. I'm not looking anymore after coming up empty repeatedly. I was raised in the faith, and I tried, I really tried, but I just could not believe. If god wants to tell me something he knows where to find me, but after coming up empty so many times I remain convinced that there's no reality here, just things like fantasy, illusion, wishful thinking, and hallucination.

 

[Motar]

That particular experience is over for me, at least as far as any initiative of mine is concerned. I'm not looking anymore after coming up empty repeatedly. I was raised in the faith, and I tried, I really tried, but I just could not believe. If god wants to tell me something he knows where to find me, but after coming up empty so many times I remain convinced that there's no reality here, just things like fantasy, illusion, wishful thinking, and hallucination.

There's no need to go looking for God, Dex. God is omnipresent.

Could there be something impeding your faith?

 

[Count_Lothian]

there are some who believe that their are descendants of his that are alive today.

Yes and I am a Grail. Proof positive that Jesus lived , I have the documents .
It was a troubling affair to find them but I knew they were there and I found a Genuine Spurious Ancestor provider online .
for a mere three thousand dollars I now have in my hands proof I am a descendant of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdeline.

I showed them to a priest in a Catholic church and asked for an audience with the Pope for I feel it is my church.
I want access to all it's contents I believe are hidden in the Vatican vaults.
The man threw me out of the church, well I tell you , this guy will no longer be a priest once I get my hands on the entire Catholic church. It's mine I tell you It's mine


and for all you naysayers about the bible.
Iksnay on the whole vaildationay.

 

[Motar]

Vatican in shock? What's next, women priestesses?

Absolutely, Spade!

"To the seven churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood,and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen." (Revelation 1:4-6 NIV)

What is a priest, but an intercessor. I am standing in the gap for you, Dear Brother!

 

[Spade]

Could there be something impeding your faith?

Yep, it's called "reason".
PS to Sister
You are still a good person. I consider you a strayed Tolstoyan.

Yes and I am a Grail. Proof positive that Jesus lived , I have the documents .
It was a troubling affair to find them but I knew they were there and I found a Genuine Spurious Ancestor provider online .
for a mere three thousand dollars I now have in my hands proof I am a descendant of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdeline.

I showed them to a priest in a Catholic church and asked for an audience with the Pope for I feel it is my church.
I want access to all it's contents I believe are hidden in the Vatican vaults.
The man threw me out of the church, well I tell you , this guy will no longer be a priest once I get my hands on the entire Catholic church. It's mine I tell you It's mine


and for all you naysayers about the bible.
Iksnay on the whole vaildationay.

I could have verified your lineage for a thousand dollars less. Please consider me in the future.

Spade's WHAT DNA R U. Calm
Aether Island

 

[Count_Lothian]

Cliffy, How ya doing this morning?
Count, It seems you woke up on the wrong side of reality. You are not God, I am not God.
Hello Dexter. Yes, Lewis makes a fine point.
Spade, You suggest the teachings of Jesus and Paul are different, how so?

We and everything all come from/exist because of a source.
You want to capitalize the word Source . For reason I think everyone here knows why.

That source is us. Every part of that source is the source for it comes from the Source .
It's not human, for we are human, it's the Source.
But the Source is the cause for humans to exist, like everything else.

ack!...words have never really desribed it, even Buddha could not. It misses the point.
Source might point to it but it fails miserably.

Too much emphasis on it and it becomes sci fi wierdness.
no thought to it all would be better. For it to actually enable you or enlighten you.
does that mean it is an entity unto itself , no..
that me, creeps in and creates an entity all powerful due to the I we are all caught up in

I'm an Allan Watts sort of guy.

He believed in God from a Pantheist bent and followed the teachings of Buddha. bit of a contradiction to pure Buddhists, but Buddha never commented on God the Creator , I believe for a reason.

It's frightening to see evengelical christians protecting their belief systems when it's proven that the bible is nothing other than something some Jew wrote.

stole that line from leonard Cohen's line "I'm the little jew who wrote the bible" lyric by leonard cohen


interesting page
Leonard Cohen – The Future Lyrics | Rock Genius

 

[coldstream]

Another Gnostic Gospel.. spouting out the same stuff. Jesus wasn't crucified, Jesus wasn't divine, Jesus married and had children.. Jesus wasn't God.. The Church dealt with these millennia ago by authenticating the current Canon.

But some of the texts that didn't make the cut ended up being buried in urns, or sequestered in secret libraries.. and make an appearance now and again. Much to the delight of agnostic and atheistic academics who portray them as being something important or reliable.. rather than works of fiction.. or worse (as to authorship). Nothing could be further from the Truth.