I'm fine this sunny morning. A little too early in the day to be up, but I'll manage. It is you that I worry about. I think you have a very kind heart but that you have been lead astray.
1500 Year Old Bible Claims Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified
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2Th:2:3:
Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, (check)
and that man of sin be revealed, (pending)
the son of perdition;
So let's see, the popular consensus is the RCC has corrupted the Bible since day 1 and now the popular consensus is the RCC has had a document in it's possession for 14 years and it is pristine as it was when 'first discovered'. Explains the path the country is on that's for sure.
Does it also say the 'money-changers' (actually) secretly stopped Judas from hiring an assassin?
Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, (check)
and that man of sin be revealed, (pending)
the son of perdition;
So let's see, the popular consensus is the RCC has corrupted the Bible since day 1 and now the popular consensus is the RCC has had a document in it's possession for 14 years and it is pristine as it was when 'first discovered'. Explains the path the country is on that's for sure.
Does it also say the 'money-changers' (actually) secretly stopped Judas from hiring an assassin?
Well, for starters, Saul never knew Yeshua, the mendicant Jewish rabbi. Saul's theology was a Greek version of rumour and story.
Which "Christian" practices do you disavow?
PS
What in Hell (Heaven's name) is a Christian?
A Christian (to me) is somebody who believes in Jesus as son of God. I strive to follow his teachings (the new testimant stuff for the most part). I tend to think those that take specific sections out of context (of a Roman Empire type world) for their own purposes (the whole Leviticus thing with homosexuality for example) are poor Christians and it is their practices I disavow.
I guess it depends on who is holding the dictionary. Personally. I believe he is the son of God not a god.
My church teaches of the Holy Trinity. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The spark of divine would be the Holy Spirit who is in all of us.
So, there are at least three gods? Or is Jesus just an "ideal" which we think of as "God"? Or,an actual avatar?
With my church its a 3-in-1 concept. They are all faces of the same God.
I believe the interpretation of the 3 may differ with each church.
didn't know there is a Hindu trinity...gonna look that up now
nah...that is 3 gods...Christianity is 3 gods in one
hindu trinity
Web definitions
The Trimūrti, Tri Murati or Trimurati, is a concept in Hinduism "in which the cosmic functions of creation, maintenance, and destruction are personified by the forms of Brahma the creator, Vishnu the maintainer or preserver and Shiva the destroyer or transformer. ...
No he doesn't, his Mere Christianity book isn't much more than one long begging the question fallacy, wouldn't convince anyone who can think clearly.
Thanks Cliffy. I wonder if you think I adhere to medieval practices when it comes to my faith in Christ. I assure you that I am in no way enslaved to ritual. I embrace the Bible because it establishes justification, joy and liberty. I agree with you that much of religion is and has been used to control the masses. That "religion" I denounce as Christ does. There is great freedom in Christ - that is the Christianity I know.
Spade,
No doubt we shall differ in opinion, but, Saul met Jesus on the road to Damascus. Jesus is capable of that sort of thing. God has some serious attributes.
Dexter,
No one can convince anyone. Belief doesn't come about that way. Faith comes when you believe God's promise. The promise isn't belief itself, it is faith in what God says is true. One example from proverbs:
I love those who love me,
and those who seek me find me.
Do you suppose you can believe the promise? - God says "if you seek me you will find me."