Ontario NDP drops in EKOS Poll

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Ontario NDP drops in EKOS Poll

Hot off the wires following the release of the Ontario budget yesterday is a poll by EKOS Research that might give Andrea Horwath pause as she considers whether or not to send Ontarians to the polls this spring.

The poll by EKOS Research for iPolitics gives the Liberals the lead with 34.7% support, up 2.4 points from EKOS's previous poll of March 27-April 3. The Progressive Conservatives were also up, gaining 4.2 points to reach 31.6%.

The New Democrats, however, fell 6.8 points to 22.2%.

The Greens were up 1.1 points to 9.4%, while 2% of respondents said they would vote for another party. Of the entire sample, 18.9% were undecided.

Only the drop in support of the NDP appears to be statistically significant, though it also looks a lot like a reset. EKOS's previous poll had the New Democrats at 29%, well above the 22% to 23% recorded in subsequent polls by Forum, Nanos, and Innovative. It does differ, however, from the 27% recorded in the most recent Ipsos Reid poll, but even Ipsos was registering a slip in support for the NDP from their own previous poll.

For the Liberals and PCs, the picture remains muddy. Of the five surveys now conducted since April 7, the PCs have recorded (in order of field dates) 38%, 36%, 30%, 37%, and 32%. The Liberals have recorded 31%, 36%, 39%, 32%, and 35%. Overall, the Liberals and PCs seem to be somewhere in the 30s. That is about as much as can be said with certainty. The aggregate now gives the Liberals 34% to 33% for the Tories.

Of significance, however, may be the Tories' lead among the oldest voters. Of Ontarians aged 65 or older, the PCs held a 40% to 36% edge over the Liberals. Among the next oldest tranche of respondents between the ages of 45 and 64, the Liberals and PCs were almost tied (33% to 32%, respectively). This suggests the Tories may have a turnout advantage (which Ipsos Reid also recorded in their poll).

ThreeHundredEight.com


EDIT: Libs called the election.
 
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Ontario NDP drops in EKOS Poll

Hot off the wires following the release of the Ontario budget yesterday is a poll by EKOS Research that might give Andrea Horwath pause as she considers whether or not to send Ontarians to the polls this spring.

The poll by EKOS Research for iPolitics gives the Liberals the lead with 34.7% support, up 2.4 points from EKOS's previous poll of March 27-April 3. The Progressive Conservatives were also up, gaining 4.2 points to reach 31.6%.

The New Democrats, however, fell 6.8 points to 22.2%.

The Greens were up 1.1 points to 9.4%, while 2% of respondents said they would vote for another party. Of the entire sample, 18.9% were undecided.

Only the drop in support of the NDP appears to be statistically significant, though it also looks a lot like a reset. EKOS's previous poll had the New Democrats at 29%, well above the 22% to 23% recorded in subsequent polls by Forum, Nanos, and Innovative. It does differ, however, from the 27% recorded in the most recent Ipsos Reid poll, but even Ipsos was registering a slip in support for the NDP from their own previous poll.

For the Liberals and PCs, the picture remains muddy. Of the five surveys now conducted since April 7, the PCs have recorded (in order of field dates) 38%, 36%, 30%, 37%, and 32%. The Liberals have recorded 31%, 36%, 39%, 32%, and 35%. Overall, the Liberals and PCs seem to be somewhere in the 30s. That is about as much as can be said with certainty. The aggregate now gives the Liberals 34% to 33% for the Tories.

Of significance, however, may be the Tories' lead among the oldest voters. Of Ontarians aged 65 or older, the PCs held a 40% to 36% edge over the Liberals. Among the next oldest tranche of respondents between the ages of 45 and 64, the Liberals and PCs were almost tied (33% to 32%, respectively). This suggests the Tories may have a turnout advantage (which Ipsos Reid also recorded in their poll).

ThreeHundredEight.com


EDIT: Libs called the election.

Anyone that even considers voting Liberal in the Ontario election needs their head read.
 

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I really don't think that Tim Hudak is all that electable, and the NDP really are not on the map.

Even if your not a fan of Hudak, and I'm not, this is a case of hold your nose.

To reward this government with another term would be foolhardy. They are crooks, liars and cheats and worse they are arrogant.

If this aint working, and it aint, it's time to try something else.
 

BornRuff

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Even if your not a fan of Hudak, and I'm not, this is a case of hold your nose.

To reward this government with another term would be foolhardy. They are crooks, liars and cheats and worse they are arrogant.

If this aint working, and it aint, it's time to try something else.

With all of the crap that has happened under the Liberals, I still trust them more than the Conservatives as of now.

What policy ideas have the conservatives really put forward over the years? The only part of their "million jobs" plan that was clearly spelled out was the Right to Work type changes to the laws that they eventually backtracked from.

Wynne is still by far the best leader of the three, so I'll stick with her until someone else can actually make me feel comfortable voting for them.
 

gerryh

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Wynne is still by far the best leader of the three, so I'll stick with her until someone else can actually make me feel comfortable voting for them.


Unless Wynne is running in your riding, you won't be voting for her.
 

BornRuff

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Unless Wynne is running in your riding, you won't be voting for her.

Lol, can that tired crap.

Despite the fact that I actually do live in her riding and I never said anything about directly voting for her, we all know that if you vote for a party in your riding it is also going to help their respective leader become Premier.
 

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Even if your not a fan of Hudak, and I'm not, this is a case of hold your nose.

To reward this government with another term would be foolhardy. They are crooks, liars and cheats and worse they are arrogant.

If this aint working, and it aint, it's time to try something else.

But Hudak and his people this time out the gate are incredibly stupid.
Last time out he got lost in foreign worker arguments in Toronto.
The only thing Hudak did was scream about the scandals.
There is absolutely no substance to this man or his people.

Again my "C" in conservative is nothing more than a logo.

You want to teach people a lesson do you, well how about my party, the Conservative one.

I've voted in the past for Liberal governments and have suffered for it in private....lol I'm serious.

Is this NDP my only choice?
Flush the other two down the drain in hopes of a better crew next time.

I mean really, I'm open to suggestions .
 

gerryh

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Lol, can that tired crap.

Despite the fact that I actually do live in her riding and I never said anything about directly voting for her, we all know that if you vote for a party in your riding it is also going to help their respective leader become Premier.


So you vote for a party rather than the person that can best represent you in the legislature.
 

BornRuff

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So you vote for a party rather than the person that can best represent you in the legislature.

Who will be your local MPP is obviously part of the consideration, but it is not crazy to also consider what party and their leader you want to put in charge of the whole government.
 

Count_Lothian

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So you vote for a party rather than the person that can best represent you in the legislature.
It shows you think about the vote you use gerryh.
I too sometimes am guilty of voting for a party rather than a person.
Especially when I know the person in my riding I should vote for works harder than the others.

This thing we call a ballot box is a treasure not to be slighted.

I see where you are coming from gerryh.
 

BornRuff

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It shows you think about the vote you use gerryh.
I too sometimes am guilty of voting for a party rather than a person.
Especially when I know the person in my riding I should vote for works harder than the others.

This thing we call a ballot box is a treasure not to be slighted.

I see where you are coming from gerryh.

You don't think it is important to consider what party you are supporting too?

Your local MPP might be able to provide a little bit of help with a few local issues or a specific problem that you have, but overall the real power goes to the party that wins.

It is nice if a local candidate works hard and is a nice guy, but if voting for him supports and political party that I do not agree with and do not want to see in power, I am going to put more weight on the latter.
 

Count_Lothian

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You don't think it is important to consider what party you are supporting too?
I did not say anything to deserve this question.

Your local MPP might be able to provide a little bit of help with a few local issues or a specific problem that you have, but overall the real power goes to the party that wins.
It depends on one's perspective and integrity.
Some vote with a conscious and not solely on political bents.
It is nice if a local candidate works hard and is a nice guy, but if voting for him supports and political party that I do not agree with and do not want to see in power, I am going to put more weight on the latter.
Well that certainly is your right and most think like you.
I just find gerryh's disposition on this issue an honest and decent one.
 

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With all of the crap that has happened under the Liberals, I still trust them more than the Conservatives as of now.

What policy ideas have the conservatives really put forward over the years? The only part of their "million jobs" plan that was clearly spelled out was the Right to Work type changes to the laws that they eventually backtracked from.

Wynne is still by far the best leader of the three, so I'll stick with her until someone else can actually make me feel comfortable voting for them.

I'm shocked I tell you. I would never have expected this position from you. Next thing you will tell me is you support Justine at the federal level.

As for policy ideas, now that the campaign is under way we will hear them. It is not the job of the official opposition to be putting out policy ideas -- just criticizing the ones of the government.

As for leadership, it is a dismal lot but IMHO she is a solid #3 in the leadership race (and this says a lot about my personal opinion of her leadership to be put behind Hudak and Howarth) (Note: I reserve the right to re-evaluate later as I am not currently aware of the leaders of the Green Party or the Libertarians or any of the other parties running.)

So you vote for a party rather than the person that can best represent you in the legislature.

I think most people do. I certainly factor this in. I do look at local candidates and have changed my vote if one of the candidates is unsatisfactory even if it is for the party of my choosing. But I think I am in the minority. If it was truly about the candidate, why is the party on the ballot beside the name?