TWU law school snub

taxslave

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Gotta agree with gerry on this one. I don't see how religious beliefs or lack thereof have any bearing on their ability to be a lawyer. As long as they can pass the bar exam should be the only criteria.
 

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prog, open-minded acceptance...oh wait.

how can anyone, anywhere, stand-up for this bullsh!t...well, other than those pinheads playing their socially-engineered roles and spouting their rehearsed lines.
 

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Interesting how one group can be exclusive of another's rights when it comes to sexual preferences, next they'll be excluding because of upbringing.

This smacks of discrimination.
 

gerryh

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Interesting how one group can be exclusive of another's rights when it comes to sexual preferences, next they'll be excluding because of upbringing.

This smacks of discrimination.


Ok, would you mind elaborating on this please? I'm not getting who you are talking about. TWU or the LSUC.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Ok, would you mind elaborating on this please? I'm not getting who you are talking about. TWU or the LSUC.

Sure, if someone chooses to go to a University that is Christian and signs on to observe the doctrine of that school [no sex before marriage] and that University offers recognized courses that individual should not be blocked from practicing their trade.

I guess you could say I'm agreeing with you. The The Law Society of Upper Canada is discriminating.
 

gerryh

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You're usually smarter than this. Good luck getting that bug out of your a ss.

Adios.


I'm smart enough to recognize someone throwing in a red herring. If you know of no discrimination that the Law society should be looking at, then why bring it up in the first place? Even as a "maybe", "perhaps". Only one reason and one reason only.

A little hint and bit of advice, this forum is not a court of law. There is no need to introduce "doubt" into a discussion. We are not discussing things "beyond a reasonable doubt".
 

The Old Medic

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If the Charter as any meaning, ANY meaning at all, then this decision will NOT be allowed to stand.

This is outright discrimination against the GRADUATES, that wholeheartedly agreed to follow the requirements to be a student at that University.

The ONLY grounds for exclusion for graduates of any accredited University should be if that particular school's curriculum does NOT meet the standards for a Law School.

And Tay, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with Sharia Law. This university is not, in any way, attempting to change the laws or legal system, of Canada. In order to institute Sharia Law, the entire country would have to be represented by both M.P.'s and Senators, that supported Sharia Law, and that were willing to change the entire legal standards of Canada.

That is just about as likely to happen, as an ice cube surviving 5 hours in a roaring blast furnace.
 

Twila

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How are they going to know if a student had sex? Will they be tested for musk before class?
 

FiveParadox

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The Law Society of Upper Canada has the authority and the duty to regulate licenses to practice law in Ontario in the public interest, pursuant to the Law Society Act. A case can certainly be made that preventing law practices which are founded in discriminatory teachings is within the sphere of the "public interest" that the Society must consider when determining an accreditation.

The idea that an institution should be accredited, that trains future lawyers and judges to believe that post-secondary institutions can and should bar active gays, lesbians, and other sexuality-diverse peoples is an offensive concept. Lawyers and judges trained in such an environment should be barred.

The fact that the law societies in Ontario and Nova Scotia have already refused accreditation under the regime of this "community covenant," and the fact that the BC Law Society is about to have its decision to approve accreditation overturned by a special general meeting, speak loudly and clearly.
 

gerryh

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The Law Society of Upper Canada has the authority and the duty to regulate licenses to practice law in Ontario in the public interest, pursuant to the Law Society Act. A case can certainly be made that preventing law practices which are founded in discriminatory teachings is within the sphere of the "public interest" that the Society must consider when determining an accreditation.

The idea that an institution should be accredited, that trains future lawyers and judges to believe that post-secondary institutions can and should bar active gays, lesbians, and other sexuality-diverse peoples is an offensive concept. Lawyers and judges trained in such an environment should be barred.

The fact that the law societies in Ontario and Nova Scotia have already refused accreditation under the regime of this "community covenant," and the fact that the BC Law Society is about to have its decision to approve accreditation overturned by a special general meeting, speak loudly and clearly.


So, all Roman Catholics should be barred from practicing law. Is that right?
 

FiveParadox

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So, all Roman Catholics should be barred from practicing law. Is that right?

No.

But if you are trained at an institution that teaches you, as a part of its academic or non-academic program, that you ought to discriminate against the LGBTQ* community, or any other groups, then you should not -- as a Roman Catholic post-secondary institution -- expect to be accredited to generate law graduates.
 

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The Law Society of Upper Canada has the authority and the duty to regulate licenses to practice law in Ontario in the public interest, pursuant to the Law Society Act. A case can certainly be made that preventing law practices which are founded in discriminatory teachings is within the sphere of the "public interest" that the Society must consider when determining an accreditation.

The idea that an institution should be accredited, that trains future lawyers and judges to believe that post-secondary institutions can and should bar active gays, lesbians, and other sexuality-diverse peoples is an offensive concept. Lawyers and judges trained in such an environment should be barred.

The fact that the law societies in Ontario and Nova Scotia have already refused accreditation under the regime of this "community covenant," and the fact that the BC Law Society is about to have its decision to approve accreditation overturned by a special general meeting, speak loudly and clearly.

Are you suggesting that they cannot compartmentalize their belief when practicing law. Or would it be that the Law Society of Upper Canada is discriminating against a group and trying to jam its secular belief system down the throats of all school that produce lawyers.

This stinks just as much as the CHARTER OF VALUES. Not everyone subscribes to the same belief system.

Lawyers deal with murderers, pedophiles, thieves, rapists, and defend such criminals before the courts and are able to compartmentalize that. So to suggest that someone that subscribes to a religion cannot do the same is discriminatory and arrogant to say the least.
 

gerryh

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No.

But if you are trained at an institution that teaches you, as a part of its academic or non-academic program, that you ought to discriminate against the LGBTQ* community, or any other groups, then you should not -- as a Roman Catholic post-secondary institution -- expect to be accredited to generate law graduates.



whoa whoa whoa, hang on now. Even if a Catholic did not attend A Catholic school, they did go to Catechism classes. That would mean that they were "taught" that marriage was ONLY between a man and a woman.


That being said, do YOU and the Law society's have proof that the Law students who will be going to TWU will be taught in the law curriculum that they are to discriminate against LGBT's and that marriage must only be between a man and a woman and that pre marital sex should be unlawful.

Simple questions, only requires a fairly simple answer.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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No.

But if you are trained at an institution that teaches you, as a part of its academic or non-academic program, that you ought to discriminate against the LGBTQ* community, or any other groups, then you should not -- as a Roman Catholic post-secondary institution -- expect to be accredited to generate law graduates.

Do you understand how discriminatory that is. It works both ways.
 

gerryh

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Are you suggesting that they cannot compartmentalize their belief when practicing law. Or would it be that the Law Society of Upper Canada is discriminating against a group and trying to jam its secular belief system down the throats of all school that produce lawyers.

This stinks just as much as the CHARTER OF VALUES. Not everyone subscribes to the same belief system.

Lawyers deal with murderers, pedophiles, thieves, rapists, and defend such criminals before the courts and are able to compartmentalize that. So to suggest that someone that subscribes to a religion cannot do the same is discriminatory and arrogant to say the least.



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