Harper guts Elections Canada to keep cheating

[PoliticalNick]

I don't really understand why a poster has to be called an expletive idiot for an opinion! I thought Canada was all aboutreedom of speech and tolerance for differing views. To say you don't agree is one thing, calling a guy a "f*cking idiot" is something else. Maybe it would save a lot of grief if someone would just post a list of correct opinions! -

Didn't mean to harm your tender sensibilities. :roll:

He is free to have the opinion that abortion is murder and I can tolerate that if that is where it ends. But no, G wants to push the envelope and call me a murderer because I support the individual right to choose. Then he wants to compare what is an actual case of multiple murder under the law, a law that has never been debated or questioned by anyone, to his wishes for a law that is heavily debated and at best has the support of a small percentage of society. The actual amount of people who would limit abortion is probably 50% or possibly higher but hard-line zealots like G who would deny it for any circumstance make it impossible to ever have anything but individual choice the only option.

 

[Locutus]

Here, I'll highlight what he said that pertains to my question/statement.

That's fair enough, Gerry, that is just what he believes, which he has a perfect right to. Now I don't agree that he should necessarily be able to act it out. He can "believe" the far side of the moon is polka dotted for all I give a sh*t!

You're a f*cking idiot! A complete mental midget!!! Olsen was committing murder under the law, not my wishes of what the law should be but the actual law. My opinion is he deserved the death penalty but then morons like you won't let us have the death penalty so we have to spend millions keeping the stupid f*cker protected in jail for who knows how many years.

I take some of the debate seriously and some of the people seriously but usually I am here for a little fun. I will take the opposite view of the majority just to wind a few people up and post some arrogant or ignorant comment to get a rise from certain members. In general though I have some kind of respect for most of the people and those who I don't respect I either troll or ignore.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/members-lounge/123848-internet-connections-meaningful.html

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Looks like the senate is pushing back, but probably not far enough.

Fair Elections Act: Senators Call For 9 Major Changes To Bill

The Harper government is getting some serious push-back from Conservative senators on its controversial overhaul of elections laws, with a Senate committee unanimously recommending nine major changes to the legislation.

In an interim report to be tabled Tuesday, the Senate's legal and constitutional affairs committee recommends that the government drop provisions to muzzle the chief electoral officer and the elections commissioner, The Canadian Press has learned.

It also recommends removing another provision which electoral experts have said would give an unfair, potentially huge, financial advantage to established parties — particularly the ruling Conservatives — during election campaigns.

However, the committee is not recommending any change to the government's plan to ban the practice of allowing registered voters to vouch for those who don't have adequate ID.

btw, anyone who thinks this isn't a vital issue in what is supposed to be a democracy is ****ing brain dead.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Looks like the senate is pushing back, but probably not far enough.

Fair Elections Act: Senators Call For 9 Major Changes To Bill



btw, anyone who thinks this isn't a vital issue in what is supposed to be a democracy is ****ing brain dead.

Way to show the respect you so readily demand Propaganda Boy.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

This puts it well

The snob factor in the Harper universe

Frum’s adamant insistence — at a Senate hearing and later in a series of well-publicized Twitter exchanges — that Elections Canada should not encourage people to vote sounded so out of sync with widely-held democratic principles that it appeared mystifying.

Indeed, it only made sense when you realized she was inadvertently revealing how deeply she and other Harperites mistrust the public at large — and how much they fear entrusting the vote to those beyond the Harper base.

Encouraging the vast horde of Canadians to vote is the last thing they want. Frum’s strange remarks captured the deeply anti-democratic tendencies of the Harper Conservatives.

Of course, the intense scrutiny surrounding Stephen Harper’s new election bill has brought these anti-democratic tendencies into sharp relief, as a number of knowledgeable individuals have noted that the bill likely would suppress voting by more than 100,000 marginalized people, while doing little to clamp down on the really serious problem of dirty election tricks witnessed in the robocall scandal.

I’ve always found it odd when commentators use the word “populist” to describe the Harper Conservatives. While they try to make their policies appear beneficial to working class voters, Harper and his team are deeply elitist.

It’s striking that some of the leading figures pushing the government’s anti-democratic agenda are unelected, Harper-appointed senators from prominent, wealthy families who use the gilded Upper Chamber as a pulpit for trashing the democratic rights of less privileged citizens.

Nicole Eaton, who married into a department store fortune, launched a Senate inquiry into the role of foreign money in environmental charities headed by people like David Suzuki, who in a nationwide CBC poll was selected as one of the greatest Canadians of all time.

And now we have Linda Frum — also from a wealthy, prominent family and appointed to the Senate after her brother played a pivotal role in the unite-the-right movement that brought Harper to power — accusing the chief electoral officer of a “conflict of interest” for promoting a program encouraging youth to vote.

It used to be that members of patrician families occupied their time with harmless, high-society events. Now, it seems, they’re drawn to suppressing democracy.

Whatever happened to the debutante ball?

So it's not hard to see why the conservatives "Fair" Elections Bill is elitist.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Why not call it what it really is, the conservative constantly in motion coup act.

Fair elections and genuinely democratic government doesn't enter the equation when it comes to the Harper government.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Why not call it what it really is, the conservative constantly in motion coup act.

Fair elections and genuinely democratic government doesn't enter the equation when it comes to the Harper government.

Or we could call it the sniveling loser's cut and paste debate.

 

[captain morgan]

Why not call it what it really is, the conservative constantly in motion coup act.

Fair elections and genuinely democratic government doesn't enter the equation when it comes to the Harper government.

Awwww... Is widdums upset 'cause Big Bad Stevie won't allow 'vouching'?

... Don't go away mad on this C_K; just go away

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Awwww... Is widdums upset 'cause Big Bad Stevie won't allow 'vouching'?

... Don't go away mad on this C_K; just go away

You should show him that poll?

 

[captain morgan]

I believe taht I would prefer to smack him with a pole... Solid metal preferred

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

It's really amazing how reasonable the conservative government becomes when they're actually held to account as they were by the Senate over the clearly unfair and partisan "Fair" Elections Act.

Suddenly PeePee is acting as if he and his party haven't been trying to ram this abortion of a bill down our collective throats all along.

Pierre Poilievre offers vouching alternative in elections bill - Politics - CBC News

The bill shouldn't have progressed the way it did with absolutely no consultation from experts and support from the opposition parties. The conservative government likes to pretend that the only Canadians in existence are those who voted for them and is trying to make that law.

 

[pgs]

It's really amazing how reasonable the conservative government becomes when they're actually held to account as they were by the Senate over the clearly unfair and partisan "Fair" Elections Act.

Suddenly PeePee is acting as if he and his party haven't been trying to ram this abortion of a bill down our collective throats all along.

Pierre Poilievre offers vouching alternative in elections bill - Politics - CBC News

The bill shouldn't have progressed the way it did with absolutely no consultation from experts and support from the opposition parties. The conservative government likes to pretend that the only Canadians in existence are those who voted for them and is trying to make that law.

How many times did you vote last election ?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

It's really amazing how reasonable the conservative government becomes when they're actually held to account as they were by the Senate over the clearly unfair and partisan "Fair" Elections Act.

Suddenly PeePee is acting as if he and his party haven't been trying to ram this abortion of a bill down our collective throats all along.

Pierre Poilievre offers vouching alternative in elections bill - Politics - CBC News

The bill shouldn't have progressed the way it did with absolutely no consultation from experts and support from the opposition parties. The conservative government likes to pretend that the only Canadians in existence are those who voted for them and is trying to make that law.

Oh look more propaganda.

 

[Colpy]

Reality.....something the Harper-haters are simply out of touch with...........

3 roadblocks to the robocalls probe — and their possible fixes - Politics - CBC News