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[gerryh]

Absolutely not! What he shouldn't do though is try to impose his belief on the subject upon me as law. Gerry is free to watch his wife or daughter die when a termination would keep them alive (he already said he took this chance once) but he sure as f*ck has no right to demand I do the same thing.

I just think there should be consequences for murdering a child.

 

[DaSleeper]

Something for you to think about when voting....The Shiny pony is personally against abortion, but politically....he's for abortion..

 

[JLM]

Something for you to think about when voting....The Shiny pony is personally against abortion, but politically....he's for abortion..

Well then, he should fit in very nicely with the rest of the hypocrites! Again, the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree! -

 

[PoliticalNick]

WTF are you talking about?

He believes abortion is wrong. So what??

I've never heard him say anything of the sort. Next you'll be saying he's advocating women sneaking down back alleys for coat hanger abortions.

Maybe you can get a bunch of Pro Choice woman friends of yours to come down and beat him.

You're the one who sounds like a zealot here.

Gerry has called me a murderer because I support a woman's right to choose. He has expressed vehemently his desire to have a law banning ALL abortions, even those medically recommended to save the mother's life. He has posted that he and his wife were warned she might not survive a pregnancy and childbirth yet opted to proceed and that he would make the same choice again even if his wife and the fetus both died.

Personally I am against abortion other than for medical reasons or cases of rape or incest but I respect everyone else's right to make their own choice, he does not.

I don't need for anyone to beat his a$$, I really don't have much thought about him or any other nutter like him who think their beliefs should rule my life. I enjoy toying with him on here once in a while for my enjoyment but other than that don't give him a seconds thought.

I just think there should be consequences for murdering a child.

Read the law Gerry....it is not a child and it is not murder. I do appreciate you admitting my statements about your opinion on the subject are correct though.

Something for you to think about when voting....The Shiny pony is personally against abortion, but politically....he's for abortion..

That is exactly how it should be. He is a representative of his constituents and if they want laws for pro-choice then his personal opinion doesn't matter.

I am personally against abortion for convenience or a method of birth control but I believe everyone has the right to their own choice about their own health and body so I am pro-choice.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Gerry has called me a murderer because I support a woman's right to choose.

Really, he called you a murderer?

He has expressed vehemently his desire to have a law banning ALL abortions, even those medically recommended to save the mother's life. He has posted that he and his wife were warned she might not survive a pregnancy and childbirth yet opted to proceed and that he would make the same choice again even if his wife and the fetus both died.

That is his and his wife's choice.

Personally I am against abortion other than for medical reasons or cases of rape or incest but I respect everyone else's right to make their own choice, he does not.

Funny, he respects mine.

I don't need for anyone to beat his a$$, I really don't have much thought about him or any other nutter like him who think their beliefs should rule my life. I enjoy toying with him on here once in a while for my enjoyment but other than that don't give him a seconds thought.[

He told you his beliefs should rule your life?

 

[PoliticalNick]

Really, he called you a murderer?

On more than one occasion.

That is his and his wife's choice.

Yes it is. I don't agree with it and think it is insane but it is their choice to make.

Funny, he respects mine.

Try telling him you're pro-choice....

He told you his beliefs should rule your life?

He has stated numerous times he believes all abortion is murder and that the law should reflect that and punish anyone involved including the parents and medical staff. If that isn't him wishing his personal belief should control my life I'm not sure what it is. If you need an example....

I just think there should be consequences for murdering a child.

 

[gerryh]

So, let me get this straight. Since I consider abortion murder, and feel that anyone that supports abortion is also supporting murder, and I have voiced this fact that I can be accused of controlling other peoples lives? Even though, as an individual, I have no control what so ever over any ones life. As an individual I have no power, what so ever, to change any existing laws, nor can I create new laws.

Obviously, you feel that I should not be allowed to voice my opinions. The pro-abortion lobby on this board has already restricted what I can and can not do when presenting the anti abortion side of this debate, now you, and others, would like to see opposing views stifled entirely. This is so reminding me of boards like Free Republic and Rabble.

 

[JLM]

On more than one occasion.

Yes it is. I don't agree with it and think it is insane but it is their choice to make.

Try telling him you're pro-choice....

He has stated numerous times he believes all abortion is murder and that the law should reflect that and punish anyone involved including the parents and medical staff. If that isn't him wishing his personal belief should control my life I'm not sure what it is. If you need an example....

I have to admit I'm sort of with Gerry on this subject, but I'm not quite as rigid where the woman's life is in danger or where the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest or where it's proven (there's been cases) where there is no brain present in the fetus, but the argument it's up to the woman because it's her body, doesn't fly. To be honest a woman's life is always in danger to some degree from pregnancy. A few years ago a hockey player for Philadelphia lost his wife during child birth. Sometimes a head ache proves fatal too, life is not a guaranteed commodity for any of us.

 

[PoliticalNick]

So, let me get this straight. Since I consider abortion murder, and feel that anyone that supports abortion is also supporting murder, and I have voiced this fact that I can be accused of controlling other peoples lives? Even though, as an individual, I have no control what so ever over any ones life. As an individual I have no power, what so ever, to change any existing laws, nor can I create new laws.

Obviously, you feel that I should not be allowed to voice my opinions. The pro-abortion lobby on this board has already restricted what I can and can not do when presenting the anti abortion side of this debate, now you, and others, would like to see opposing views stifled entirely. This is so reminding me of boards like Free Republic and Rabble.

Let me see if I get this. You would like the law changed to make all abortion illegal, including medical necessity, rape and incest but you do not think that is forcing your belief upon other people. I know as an individual you cannot do this but my point is not that you can but that you would if you could.

You are quite welcome to your opinion G. You can state it however you like and wherever you like as much as you like. You should be aware though if you want to call me a murderer to my face instead of hiding behind your keyboard you probably won't walk away because that is libel and slanderous and untrue and I just don't think the court could really give you adequate punishment for making such a claim against me.

 

[JLM]

So, let me get this straight. Since I consider abortion murder, and feel that anyone that supports abortion is also supporting murder, and I have voiced this fact that I can be accused of controlling other peoples lives? Even though, as an individual, I have no control what so ever over any ones life. As an individual I have no power, what so ever, to change any existing laws, nor can I create new laws.

Obviously, you feel that I should not be allowed to voice my opinions. The pro-abortion lobby on this board has already restricted what I can and can not do when presenting the anti abortion side of this debate, now you, and others, would like to see opposing views stifled entirely. This is so reminding me of boards like Free Republic and Rabble.

Gerry, I have absolutely no problems with any of your opinions on abortion- they're your opinions and that is fair enough. I agree with many of them but not all of them, but unlike you I have no problem accepting others' opinions, as opinions. I might hate to see some of them get passed into law.

 

[PoliticalNick]

I have to admit I'm sort of with Gerry on this subject, but I'm not quite as rigid where the woman's life is in danger or where the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest or where it's proven (there's been cases) where there is no brain present in the fetus, but the argument it's up to the woman because it's her body, doesn't fly. To be honest a woman's life is always in danger to some degree from pregnancy. A few years ago a hockey player for Philadelphia lost his wife during child birth. Sometimes a head ache proves fatal too, life is not a guaranteed commodity for any of us.

In case you are having problems finding your glasses or just plain old comprehension issues let me state this again....I am against abortion for convenience or as a form of birth control. Unfortunately though I do not believe I have any right to tell another human being what they can do to their body and that includes a pregnant woman. I may not agree with a choice someone makes on any given topic but I will always be of the opinion it is their choice to make because I believe in freedom and I believe nobody on this planet has a right to interfere with my choices.

 

[gerryh]

So, you have no problem with the choice that Olson made and feel that he should not have been forced to spend the rest of his life in jail for a choice that he made.

 

[JLM]

In case you are having problems finding your glasses or just plain old comprehension issues let me state this again....I am against abortion for convenience or as a form of birth control. Unfortunately though I do not believe I have any right to tell another human being what they can do to their body and that includes a pregnant woman. I may not agree with a choice someone makes on any given topic but I will always be of the opinion it is their choice to make because I believe in freedom and I believe nobody on this planet has a right to interfere with my choices.

Not sure what your point is. I don't recall telling anyone what they can or can't do. Sometimes I don't "buy" people's reasoning, but that's allowed isn't it?

So, you have no problem with the choice that Olson made and feel that he should not have been forced to spend the rest of his life in jail for a choice that he made.

I quickly glanced at the last couple of dozen posts and didn't see Olson's name mentioned anywhere. I think virtually every decent Canadian "has a problem" with Olson's choice and enforced a punishment to the extent Canadian law allows. As far as that goes, Gerry, some of us might demand a sentence more severe than you would sanction! -

 

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[gerryh]

I quickly glanced at the last couple of dozen posts and didn't see Olson's name mentioned anywhere. I think virtually every decent Canadian "has a problem" with Olson's choice and enforced a punishment to the extent Canadian law allows. As far as that goes, Gerry, some of us might demand a sentence more severe than you would sanction! -

Here, I'll highlight what he said that pertains to my question/statement.

In case you are having problems finding your glasses or just plain old comprehension issues let me state this again....I am against abortion for convenience or as a form of birth control. Unfortunately though I do not believe I have any right to tell another human being what they can do to their body and that includes a pregnant woman. I may not agree with a choice someone makes on any given topic but I will always be of the opinion it is their choice to make because I believe in freedom and I believe nobody on this planet has a right to interfere with my choices.

 

[JLM]

Here, I'll highlight what he said that pertains to my question/statement.

That's fair enough, Gerry, that is just what he believes, which he has a perfect right to. Now I don't agree that he should necessarily be able to act it out. He can "believe" the far side of the moon is polka dotted for all I give a sh*t!

 

[PoliticalNick]

So, you have no problem with the choice that Olson made and feel that he should not have been forced to spend the rest of his life in jail for a choice that he made.

You're a f*cking idiot! A complete mental midget!!! Olsen was committing murder under the law, not my wishes of what the law should be but the actual law. My opinion is he deserved the death penalty but then morons like you won't let us have the death penalty so we have to spend millions keeping the stupid f*cker protected in jail for who knows how many years.

 

[JLM]

That's fair enough, Gerry, that is just what he believes, which he has a perfect right to. Now I don't agree that he should necessarily be able to act it out. He can "believe" the far side of the moon is polka dotted for all I give a sh*t!

You got that right, but not just the death penalty but a death in line with the deaths of his victims. Raymond King Jr. got a spike driven through his head!

 

[gerryh]

You're a f*cking idiot! A complete mental midget!!! Olsen was committing murder under the law, not my wishes of what the law should be but the actual law. My opinion is he deserved the death penalty but then morons like you won't let us have the death penalty so we have to spend millions keeping the stupid f*cker protected in jail for who knows how many years.

and that is your opinion. My opinion, abortion is the same thing. At one time, it was the law, and hopefully will be again.

 

[JLM]

I don't really understand why a poster has to be called an expletive idiot for an opinion! I thought Canada was all about freedom of speech and tolerance for differing views. To say you don't agree is one thing, calling a guy a "f*cking idiot" is something else. Maybe it would save a lot of grief if someone would just post a list of correct opinions! -