I see the point you are making but the point he was making wasn't quite as cut and dried as that! To give him the benefit of the doubt he could have just meant that the sun is shining and the birds are singing.
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I see the point you are making but the point he was making wasn't quite as cut and dried as that! To give him the benefit of the doubt he could have just meant that the sun is shining and the birds are singing.
Dexter, I think God has a sense of humor, so I shall ask him to provide a pink unicorn in your garage. He bolted Saul with lightening. Why not hit you in the chops with a pink unicorn?
Pink unicorns aside. Do you see no possibility that God had a hand in creation? The earth/universe are fairly spectacular. Certainly it is not unreasonable or irrational to think intelligent design has a role.
Come on! Give faith a try. You might like it.
Therefore saying you don't believe in something because there's no evidence for it is a daft argument to make.
But there IS evidence that God exists. It's all around you.
You call that logic? You must get fooled a lot. That's the heart of the argument. The ONLY justification for believing something is true is that there's evidence for it, if there's no evidence a claim is true it should be rejected.
That's not really the point. The point is that it's not a necessary hypothesis, and doesn't explain anything.
I have. I didn't.Come on! Give faith a try. You might like it.
There is evidence that God exists. It's all around you.
There's no evidence that the claim "God doesn't exist" is true.
Therefore, we should reject that statement and must believe that God exists.
No worky on direct click with FF but c&p is ok.
This direct one works though:
morphic resonance - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com
There's nothing that doesn't admit of more prosaic naturalistic explanations, that's just how you've chosen to interpret things.
Sure there is. God's existence has certain logical consequences that should be visible in the world, their absence would be evidence he doesn't.
I see exactly equal possibilities that some god made the universe, that magical fairy unicorns made the universe, and that a pre-existing alien supercomputer made the universe. It does not follow that I should worship some god, magical fairy unicorns, or alien supercomputers.Dexter, I think God has a sense of humor, so I shall ask him to provide a pink unicorn in your garage. He bolted Saul with lightening. Why not hit you in the chops with a pink unicorn?
Pink unicorns aside. Do you see no possibility that God had a hand in creation? The earth/universe are fairly spectacular. Certainly it is not unreasonable or irrational to think intelligent design has a role.
Come on! Give faith a try. You might like it.
In a hole in the ground lived a hobbit.
Just because somebody wrote it don't make it true.
There is no evidence of a teacup orbiting Mars either. Doesnt mean its there.
Exactly. With the right evidence I could be convinced that there is a god. I still would not worship it though. The fact that I may exist because of that being doesnt change anything on that subject. I dont worship my parents after all.
Tough Crowd on the forum today.
T-Bones, Your thoughts here spring from UNBELIEF. Unbelief is an ailment. A monstrous affliction of the spirit. Something more than religion is needed. Faith is the cure. Understand that I know I am speaking to a brick wall. Such is the way of UNBELIEF. Yet.....there is hope. Ladies and Gentlemen, if only we would follow the directions. Try this & see where it gets you. Keep in mind this isn't the McDonald's drive thru. Some patience may be in order.
Confess a sin to God. Pick one & confess it to God. Maybe you need to confess that you do not even believe there is such a thing as sin. Call it a "shortcoming" or human error or whatever else the current wind approves. I know acknowledging our "shortcomings" as sin is all out of fashion these days. Give it a try anyway.
I am kinda leaning toward the magical fairy unicorn theory. I find the creation story in My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic far more logical, compelling, and self-consistent than Genesis.
You would say that. Even when the evidence of God's existence is staring you in the eyes - the fact that things exist and that creation wasn't created by nothing - you still deny that it's evidence.
In his 1955 book "The Magician's Nephew", the sixth of the seven Chronicles of Narnia, the great CS Lewis makes the point that there can be several people confronted with the evidence for God yet they can interpret that evidence quite differently.
Lewis describes Uncle Andrew's direct encounter with Aslan where he vehemently denied what he was seeing and hearing as making himself look stupid.
And Lewis, a former atheist turned believer, continues, "Now the trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. Uncle Andrew did."
There isn't. There is no evidence whatsoever that the statement "God doesn't exist" is true. That statement has never been proven to be true and never will be.
Therefore, using your analogy, we should discard that statement and take the opposite view.
There are several proofs that God exists. Thomas Aquinas famously wrote five of them.
These include obvious ones, like something must have created existence - the atheist belief that nothing caused something to spring out of nothing just doesn't wash - and that there is evidence for design.
When the unravelling of the Human Genome Code was announced to the world, Clinton rightly hailed it as the discovery of the language of the Creator.
What scientists discovered was an extremely sophisticated genetic language necessary for even the simplest life forms to exist.
To believe that this level of apparent design happened either randomly or by chance with NO intervention by a great intelligence is a mathematical equation of probability with more zeros than I can be bothered to type.
The evidence of God's existence if overwhelming. Therefore I think this silly thread should be closed forthwith.