NOT separate? You're stepping well outside standard Christian dogma there, it maintains there's an immaterial soul that survives the death of the body.Not separate, Dex. Humanly speaking, commingled. At times, uncooperative
NOT separate? You're stepping well outside standard Christian dogma there, it maintains there's an immaterial soul that survives the death of the body.Not separate, Dex. Humanly speaking, commingled. At times, uncooperative
Well, it's certainly true that our lives are controlled by electromagnetism, though not in the way I suspect you mean.Pigeons lives are controlled by an immaterial force called electromagnetism. Why should humans be any different. A recent study confirms the same force directing the lives of fish as well. Are humans exceptions to this discovery? I think not.
Well, it's certainly true that our lives are controlled by electromagnetism, though not in the way I suspect you mean.
Have to guess, and wildly at that because your knowledge of physics is extremely tenuous.Of course you guess.![]()
NOT separate? You're stepping well outside standard Christian dogma there, it maintains there's an immaterial soul that survives the death of the body.
hhmmm Oxymorons really are useful for something! I never would have figured.Behavioral evidence does not belong in the material/physical evidence type or category, Cliffy. It is not a hair sample. It is soul evidence. It reveals the bent of the human spirit which engenders it. Understanding from a Christian worldview that human beings are more than just "meatsacks", it is reasonable to place human behavior in another evidence category. Spiritual evidence works for me.
Yes. Heat and light are electromagnetic. Human life can't exist without heat and light. QED.You don't have to suspect my meaning, I thought I've been very clear. Do you have any evidence to support your unsupportable position?
People seem to agree about a lot of the symptoms of love, yet ....Not separate, Dex. Humanly speaking, commingled. At times, uncooperative:
“Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.” (Matthew 26:41 NIV)
Well, DB, I cannot speak for the "Neo Christian Church".
Francis Collins and rational faith:
"...to apply scientific arguments to the question of God's existence, as if this were somehow a showstopper, is committing a category error.”
Francis S. Collins Quotes (Author of The Language of God)
hhmmm Oxymorons really are useful for something! I never would have figured.
This tendency of the faithful to use terms like "evidence", "fact", "theory", etc. reminds me of vegans making "burgers", "hotdogs", "turkey", "BBQed ribs", etc. out of soybean curd.![]()
Well, DB, I cannot speak for the "Neo Christian Church".
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/20100.Francis_S_Collins
Have to guess, and wildly at that because your knowledge of physics is extremely tenuous.
To his credit, he understands the difference between magnetism and electromagnetism. Which puts him one up on you.But you are speaking for it.
I suspect that you haven't published any paper in support of that.![]()
Yes. Heat and light are electromagnetic. Human life can't exist without heat and light. QED.
Left as an exercise for the reader. Enjoy.Thank you, while I don't have time to read your rebut right now, I do appreciate the time and effort you expended. A simply stunning first sentence, where is the rest of it?
To his credit, he understands the difference between magnetism and electromagnetism. Which puts him one up on you.
Why would I be surprised? After all, anyone can use terms whether they can understand them, use them appropriately, etc. or not.You might be surprised to learn that I am currently studying Advanced Cardiovascular Life Support (ACLS) online while I'm following this discussion, LG. Rational faith - it's the subject of this thread. For those who bring head and heart to their investigation of life, there is room for both reason and hope.
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Why would I be surprised? After all, anyone can use terms whether they can understand them, use them appropriately, etc. or not.
Yes; rational faith - rational, suggesting logical or reasonable, and faith, suggesting spiritual confidence rather than proof or evidence. lol
I don't need to. The evidence concerning your abilities on physics is publicly available to anyone snooping through CC or googling "forums", "physics", and suchlike terms in order to arrive here at CC..I suspect that you haven't published any paper in support of that.![]()
There are more variables involved that you haven't accounted for (is there even an engine in the car, is it an internal combustion engine or electric, etc., ad nauseum), but taking that into consideration, I'd have to suggest a successful ignition and running would be more of a faith issue than a scientific issue.I have changed the oil, charged the battery, filled up the tank and the tires are inflated. Do I have scientific certainty the car will start in the morning or do I have faith that it will start?
PS this is a hypothetical question
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Why would I be surprised? After all, anyone can use terms whether they can understand them, use them appropriately, etc. or not.
Yes; rational faith - rational, suggesting logical or reasonable, and faith, suggesting spiritual confidence rather than proof or evidence. lol
I'm trying to get you to address the roots of Christianity, contrary to what you believe it did not start two thousand years ago, and it did not start with a living God. Your hesitation to address these historical truths and instead insist on the new chronological history paints you as Neo Christian.
I have changed the oil, charged the battery, filled up the tank and the tires are inflated. Do I have scientific certainty the car will start in the morning or do I have faith that it will start?