Does it really bother you that much that any glory days the UK had are far (and I do mean far) behind them.
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Does it really bother you that much that any glory days the UK had are far (and I do mean far) behind them.
Britain is on a par with two entities which have between them a population a bit smaller than that of London and a combined economy almost half that of London's?
Canada has a number of territories as well including the Turks and Caicos. BVI and Gibraltor are next, we've already chosen new names
Face it. The vast majority of people around the world see Canada and the USA as what they are - two creations of Great Britain who bestowed on them the gifts of parliamentary democracy, Magna Carta (which the US Constitution), liberal, free-trade economics, and the English language.
People the world over know that both those countries wouldn't be where they are now had it not been for any of those things.
It's better being a has-been than a never-has-been.
Other countries can do what they like. What other countries do and don't do doesn't bother me.
What the modern world is missing today, however, is the British Empire. The world was a much better place when the British Empire was around.
Turks and Caicos is a British Overseas Territory. If I remember likely their leader told Canada to get stuffed.
BVI, T&C and London are just a handful of the jurisdictions that are supremely unhappy with Britian and have expressed a pressing interest in joining Canada.
What can I say?
No way man, BC bud all the way
After 1815, the British lost a series of wars (or was gutted internally as in the World Wars). In losing, there was a steady decline of the control that the British had over their colonies because of independence movements. This signified the decline of the phrase that was their epitome: "The sun never sets on the British Empire".
Here is a great read... might shake some of the delusional dream land you live in..
The Decline and Fall of the British Empire: Piers Brendon: 9780224062220: Amazon.com: Books
Summary
Here is a great read... might shake some of the delusional dream land you live in..
The Decline and Fall of the British Empire: Piers Brendon: 9780224062220: Amazon.com: Books
Summary
Fascinating... I never realized that the British empire dissolved so quickly.
The second fastest fall since the economic collapse of Russia you say?
Remarkable, albeit, it's no surprise.
The second fastest fall since the economic collapse of Russia you say?
Remarkable, albeit, it's no surprise.
Yet gutted you financially, which makes it hard to control colonies without money.. duh.
Historian warns of sudden collapse of American ‘empire’
by Brent Gardner-Smith, Aspen Daily News Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 6, 2010
Harvard professor and prolific author Niall Ferguson opened the 2010 Aspen Ideas Festival Monday with a stark warning about the increasing prospect of the American “empire” suddenly collapsing due to the country’s rising debt level.
“I think this is a problem that is going to go live really soon,” Ferguson said. “In that sense, I mean within the next two years. Because the whole thing, fiscally and other ways, is very near the edge of chaos. And we’ve seen already in Greece what happens when the bond market loses faith in your fiscal policy.”
Ferguson said empires — such as the former Soviet Union and the Roman empire — can collapse quite quickly and the tipping point is often when the cost of servicing an empire’s debt is larger than the cost of its defense budget.
“That has not been the case I think at any point in U.S. history,” Ferguson said. “It will be the case in the next five years.”
Ferguson was conscious of opening the Ideas Festival on such a stark note.
“Walter Isaacson, the leader of this great institution said, ‘Don’t be too dark!,’” Ferguson said.
The affable British scholar tried to keep it light. He used a stage whisper to tell the Aspen Institute audience, “I know you’re not comfortable with the word ‘empire,’ especially just after the Fourth of July, but you are the Redcoats now.”
He said the U.S. is now deeply in the red as a country because of a combination of the Great Recession, the resulting federal stimulus and financial bailout programs, two wars, the Bush tax cuts, and a growth in social entitlement programs.
And economic debt can lead to a sudden loss of military power and global respect, Ferguson said.
Historian warns of sudden collapse of American ‘empire’ | Aspen Daily News Online
That will be quite some time into the future Blackie... You see, the Americans have the most powerful navy on Earth. This alone allows them to control all shipping if they so desire.
You see, they don't have a pretend navy with make-believe vessels... In fact, if a Russian vessel came within any distance of any of the tens of thousands of miles of US shoreline, they would have an inteceptor there within minutes, and not within a week like the British navy
Nope, the American Empire is just in it's infancy and will only get stronger as every day goes by
You see, they don't have a pretend navy with make-believe vessels... In fact, if a Russian vessel came within any distance of any of the tens of thousands of miles of US shoreline, they would have an inteceptor there within minutes, and not within a week like the British navy
Nope, the American Empire is just in it's infancy and will only get stronger as every day goes by
The British had the most powerful navy and controlled the vast majority of the world's trade and shipping. Between 1815 and the early 1900s Britain controlled all of the key maritime trade routes and enjoyed unparalleled sea power. The Royal Navy was always at least twice as large as the enxt largest navy. Such things do not guarantee that an empire will survive.
And the fact is that the US Navy is nowhere near as powerful and world dominant as the Royal Navy was when it ruled the seas. And it can never hope to be. The US Navy is NOT going to control all the world's shipping and trade routes as the Royal Navy did for the simple fact that, unlike the RN in its prime, it cannot.
The RN and Great Britain was unchallenged for over a century. The United States is already a declining force in the world and is about to be eclipsed economically, politically and militarily by China.
The Americans not updating their navy to make it fir for the 21st Century is not a problem of mine. They'd better do something about it pretty pronto, though. China's rapidly catching up with them.
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400 years of Canadian beaver pelts for an economy? What did you do afterwards? Allsorts?
That's great that at one point hundreds of years ago you had a navy, but today is what counts.
Today, you have nothing more than a pretend navy with make-believe ships.
Hell, I'll bet that the number of sea worthy vessels in the False Creek harbor in Vancouver eclipses your entire 'navy'
The $7 billion dollar warship built to maintain American naval supremacy over China in the 21st Century | Mail Online
Now let's get back to why the British Empire failed so quickly..
I think these guys had more to do with the creation of the US than the Brits...
And these guys...
I'll let the Canadians answer for themselves.
Blackleaf thinks that the only adversary in WWII was Germany...
Attention... no Brits were harmed in the taking of this island...
Or this one...
Or this....
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