MHz - that is quite the litany.
God, being God can save whom he pleases. That person need not be perfect in doctrine. Certainly the day of judgement will not include an exam in doctrine.
It barely scratches the surface.
It does indeed include an 'examination' of a person's works.
M't:25:31-33:
When the Son of man shall come in his glory,
and all the holy angels with him,
then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
M't:25:34:
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand,
Come,
ye blessed of my Father,
inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
M't:25:41:
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand,
Depart from me,
ye cursed,
into everlasting fire,
prepared for the devil and his angels:
Lu:6:46:
And why call ye me,
Lord,
Lord,
and do not the things which I say?
Heb:12:6-8:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth,
and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening,
God dealeth with you as with sons;
for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement,
whereof all are partakers,
then are ye bastards,
and not sons.
Do not misunderstand my communication here. Only by faith in Christ's atonement are we saved. Do not judge Catholics and assume all are going to the pit.
Faith in Christ will make you part of the ones listed in Re:20:4, that is one point out of several listed. The ones that die that day are also saved at the Great White Throne as mentioned in Isaiah 65, so really all of mankind is saved when the two groups are combined.
Yes, their doctrine is askew from Scripture, but we know not the faith of a particular person. I have no doubt that some will be saved even if they believe purgatory to be true.
Hell is a true place, that is how the ones in death in Isaiah 65 can be dead and not also be asleep as mentioned in Job:14 and the verse below.
Ec:9:10:
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do,
do it with thy might;
for there is no work,
nor device,
nor knowledge,
nor wisdom,
in the grave,
whither thou goest.
We humans are so balled up we likely don't fully know what we actually believe. Faith of a mustard seed.
That faith is only available for the ones that are alive for the 1,000 years or in the new earth that comes after the Great White Throne unless you are one of the ones that think you should be able to tell an actual mountain to move after reading the Bible and that I find to be a bit scary.
If you are allowing no room and are insisting that a believer know doctrine perfectly then you may want to check yours.
Phillipians 2
In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
Isa:53:6-10:
All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned every one to his own way;
and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed,
and he was afflicted,
yet he opened not his mouth:
he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb,
so he openeth not his mouth.
He was taken from prison and from judgment:
and who shall declare his generation?
for he was cut off out of the land of the living:
for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death;
because he had done no violence,
neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed,
he shall prolong his days,
and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
1Co:15:24-28:
Then cometh the end,
when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
even the Father;
when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
For he must reign,
till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
For he hath put all things under his feet.
But
when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted,
which did put all things under him.
And when all things shall be subdued unto him,
then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him,
that God may be all in all.
One day EVERY TONGUE WILL CONFESS THAT JESUS IS LORD. Confess it now or later when it will be plain to you and everyone.
Do you not understand that the verses below apply to all the ones that die on the day the 7th trump sounds?
Re:7:9-17:
After this I beheld,
and,
lo,
a great multitude,
which no man could number,
of all nations,
and kindreds,
and people,
and tongues,
stood before the throne,
and before the Lamb,
clothed with white robes,
and palms in their hands;
And cried with a loud voice,
saying,
Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne,
and unto the Lamb.
And all the angels stood round about the throne,
and about the elders and the four beasts,
and fell before the throne on their faces,
and worshipped God,
Saying,
Amen:
Blessing,
and glory,
and wisdom,
and thanksgiving,
and honour,
and power,
and might,
be unto our God for ever and ever.
Amen.
And one of the elders answered,
saying unto me,
What are these which are arrayed in white robes?
and whence came they?
And I said unto him,
Sir,
thou knowest.
And he said to me,
These are they which came out of great tribulation,
and have washed their robes,
and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Therefore are they before the throne of God,
and serve him day and night in his temple:
and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
They shall hunger no more,
neither thirst any more;
neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them,
and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters:
and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
What do you mean - "Only if your mind is the whole of God and neither of you are."? I already stated I am not Diety. I sure all are stunned that that is the case. Many Christian Cults trip over Jesus being God It is rather remarkable. They expound how JEsus is not God and then conclude that they are indeed God.
Are the words in verses like this simply too hard for you to accept at face value?
Joh:20:17:
Jesus saith unto her,
Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren,
and say unto them,
I ascend unto my Father,
and your Father;
and to my God,
and your God.
MHz: You're really winning us over to Christ with your current disposition. Take it easy.
Not my task, God will take care of that. If you can't provide a Scripture to support your view then you are delusional, plain and simple.
