How about them Canucks!

talloola

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Luongo is completely useless.

ok, carry on..

if you studied the goals, you wouldn't blame him, you'd just wish he had been in the way for
the deflections, and had of stopped the first one, and someone said that was a deflection too.
i talked about his 'soft' goal in ottawa, there were none of those today, I would hope you could
find replays of the 3 goals, and see just how they went in the goal.

sure he is the last point of defense, but I saw much more concerning things in the play of the
forwards, which led to the overtaxing of the defense which caused them to make mistakes too.

hanson, higgins, sedins, burrows, kesler, and down the line, didn't scare their goalie at all, daniels
goal was a power play, but i'm concerned with 5 on 5 play. booth stepped up.

hanson, higgins, and kesler just skated around trying to keep up with their checks, didn't threaten
offensively.

we'll see how it goes in carolina, a weaker team, but that doesn't matter, they are an nhl team
and can burn anyone who doesn't come to play their best.
canucks 'are' a better team than carolina, lets see if it is really true.
 

Kreskin

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Yes, the goals are never the cause of Luongo. But he never causes a win either. Every team they face has a goaltender that out plays him.
 

talloola

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Yes, the goals are never the cause of Luongo. But he never causes a win either. Every team they face has a goaltender that out plays him.

well, if you don't care about 'how' the pucks were shot, and exactly what happened on those shots,
and visa versa at the other end, then you just have your own agenda, so then it really doesn't matter
what the facts are I guess.

their goalie would not have stopped the two deflections that went in on luongo, no goalie would have
stopped those, 'where' were those difficult shots from canucks, didn't see 'one' deflection by a
canuck player, because new york defense was covering so well, they did their job the way they
should in front of their goalie.

one fantastic goal by booth and one power play goal by daniel, that was it, not near enough
pressure from canucks offense at all.

doesn't that matter to you, do you 'only' see luongo?

I agreed with you the other day, saying that it would be nice if he could be the hero and make some
game saving saves, but 'deflections',? come on, deflections have to hit goalies cause they can't
save them, unless the puck is travelling slow, no deflections on new york today, mostly outside
easy saves, and a few good saves, then he is given credit for playing a great game, naw, he did
his job, didn't make game saving saves.
I think you must just be having some fun with me, to get me going, must be, hope
that is what it is.
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bill barilko

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One thing the Canucks generally do well is shoot-watching the LA/Calgary game it's almost comical to see how hesitant Calgary is/how indecisive.

Sooner or later all those shots are going to pay off for Vancouver-as Gretzky said 'you miss 100% of the shots you don't take'.
 

Kreskin

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well, if you don't care about 'how' the pucks were shot, and exactly what happened on those shots,
and visa versa at the other end, then you just have your own agenda, so then it really doesn't matter
what the facts are I guess.

their goalie would not have stopped the two deflections that went in on luongo, no goalie would have
stopped those, 'where' were those difficult shots from canucks, didn't see 'one' deflection by a
canuck player, because new york defense was covering so well, they did their job the way they
should in front of their goalie.

one fantastic goal by booth and one power play goal by daniel, that was it, not near enough
pressure from canucks offense at all.

doesn't that matter to you, do you 'only' see luongo?

I agreed with you the other day, saying that it would be nice if he could be the hero and make some
game saving saves, but 'deflections',? come on, deflections have to hit goalies cause they can't
save them, unless the puck is travelling slow, no deflections on new york today, mostly outside
easy saves, and a few good saves, then he is given credit for playing a great game, naw, he did
his job, didn't make game saving saves.
I think you must just be having some fun with me, to get me going, must be, hope
that is what it is.
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Goalies do and can stop deflections. Yes, they all can't be stopped but he can't let all of them in. I suppose he can but that would make him a beer league contender. Every team they play against has a goalie who's standing on his head, stopping everything that if were scored would not be his fault. He needs to buck up and pull his weight or let Lack take over, or anyone else. At this point he's playing with little relevance.
 

talloola

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Goalies do and can stop deflections. Yes, they all can't be stopped but he can't let all of them in. I suppose he can but that would make him a beer league contender. Every team they play against has a goalie who's standing on his head, stopping everything that if were scored would not be his fault. He needs to buck up and pull his weight or let Lack take over, or anyone else. At this point he's playing with little relevance.

each game has to be assessed on its own, without generalities, he has played very well for many games,
and to 'only concentrate on (what you think are mistakes) and never mention anything he does that is
good, makes a very inaccurate picture indeed. I feel I see the 'whole' luongo, good and bad, so I
will continue down that road, just as I do with the team.
I like to review each goal, and then I also listen to post game comments from peoples whos opinion
I respect, and make a fair opinion on that basis.

general comments post game are very common, and the bad, as people see it, looms to the forefront and all
the good is deleted, because of a 'loss.
the deflections today would not be stopped unless goalie was in the way of them, and yes some are
stoppable, of course, i'm not generalizing, i'm talking about todays, lack also let in a deflection,
which was not stoppable, but in all 3 cases the defense should have been covering those playerss better,
just as ranger's defense were covering canuck players, as canucks didn't have a smell at any
deflections, and hardly any point blank shots, which helped their goalie greatly.
 

talloola

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i'll leave post game analysis to someone else today, as I didn't see much of the game, just the last period,
did listen on the radio in the car though.

good that they got the win.

off to nashville for a tuesday game.
 

JLM

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i'll leave post game analysis to someone else today, as I didn't see much of the game, just the last period,
did listen on the radio in the car though.

good that they got the win.

off to nashville for a tuesday game.


You saw more than I did, just 10 minutes of the 3rd period, where Canucks took the penalty, they looked good for what I saw.
 

talloola

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You saw more than I did, just 10 minutes of the 3rd period, where Canucks took the penalty, they looked good for what I saw.

the game seemed like it had lots of everything in it, as well as lots of mishaps which caused visits
to the medical room, and back again.

seems both teams had their chances, and it certainly didn't sound like yesterdays game, where rangers
played much better than canucks, the carolina team has defensive holes at times.
 

#juan

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Thank God for Kesler. He didn't do all the work but he got a couple goals and he had a pile of hits. I felt sorry for Burrows who didn't get any goals but you could tell he was working hard.
 

talloola

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Thank God for Kesler. He didn't do all the work but he got a couple goals and he had a pile of hits. I felt sorry for Burrows who didn't get any goals but you could tell he was working hard.

yeah, kesler had a good game, and burrows is really snakebitten, I'm hoping so bad for him each game, maybe
soon everything will go in.
 

JLM

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yeah, kesler had a good game, and burrows is really snakebitten, I'm hoping so bad for him each game, maybe
soon everything will go in.


yeah, Burrows is one of my favourites.


Anyway, I'm predicting a decisive win in Nashville! -:)
 

Kreskin

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When they needed big saves Lack stopped some of the not-Luongos-fault shots.