It will be interesting to check the power rankings in the morning, Sharks are currently in 2nd place- I'm thinking they will drop to 15th.
How about them Canucks!
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I was just glad the Jets managed to pick up two points and the psychological boost it should give them. Canadian teams aren't doing well right now.
yeah, i'm always cheering for the jets, they are really struggling, but they have a good coach,
and a nice team, so hopefully they can improve and adjust to playing in the west, as i'm sure
if they were still in that south eastern division, they would have many more wins.
edmonton played well tonight, just couldn't get past 'chicago', not many can.
calgary started out like gangbusters, but not now, its not easy for anyone.
good defense and good goalkeeping, goals have to be scored from hard work
or a lucky bounce off of someone and into the net.
the west is so competetive within their conference, a very tough conference, especially
the pacific division.
calgary against san jose was interesting, after two periods calgary only had 6 shots on net,
after 3rd period they were tied and went to overtime, where san jose did win.
nashville is really struggling, for a team who has always been stingy around their own goal,
has let in so many goals recently it is quite alarming.
but hurray, cause winnipeg prevailed over detroit and won in a shootout, 3 in a row for them now.
teams are very even, I wouldn't bet with confidence on any team on any given night, even buffalo
now.
florida is playing ugly hockey right now.
too bad about steven stamkos, he broke his leg yesterday, hit the goal post hard,
he will out for about 3 months, that could finish tampa bay as he has half of
their goals this season.
PrintSHARKS (11-2-5) at CANUCKS (11-7-2)
TV: CSN-CA, SNET-VAN
Last 10: San Jose 4-2-4; Vancouver 6-3-1
Season series: This is the fourth and final matchup between the San Jose Sharks and Vancouver Canucks. Vancouver won the most recent meeting last Thursday in San Jose, 4-2, to snap a streak of nine straight losses to the Sharks in the regular season and Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Big story: With two postseason meetings in the past three seasons, this heated rivalry gathered even more steam this season with San Jose and Vancouver moving to the Pacific Division. Expect another hard-fought game Thursday; the Canucks and Sharks look to relocate their footing in the crowded divisional standings.
San Jose was winless in five games before an overtime defeat of the Calgary Flames on Tuesday. Vancouver, after going 1-2-1 on a four-game road swing in which the lone win came against the Sharks, returns home for a season-long six-game homestand.
Team scope:
Sharks: During the 2012-13 season, San Jose reeled off a perfect 7-0-0 record in January before dropping its next seven games. This season, the Sharks again dominated out of the gate and finished October with a League-leading 22 points. Since then, it’s been a tough road reminiscent of last season. Injuries to wingers Brent Burns, Adam Burish and Raffi Torres, atypical lapses from goaltender Antti Niemi and an inefficient power play resulted in five straight winless games, four of which went past regulation.
The Sharks managed to right the ship in Calgary on Tuesday, though it took overtime to do so. San Jose scored twice in the opening period, one via the power play, but allowed Calgary to even it with two goals in the third. Brad Stuart scored the overtime winner 1:13 into the extra period.
"We've kind of been having a lot of those types of games where we go into overtime, a shootout and we don't come out with the second point," Stuart said. "It's nice to get it. … It'll be a good positive for us moving forward.”
Canucks: To say a team lives and dies by one line is usually a stretch, but it may be the best way to describe the Canucks at the moment. The top line of Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin and Ryan Kesler went on a tear in mid-October, combining for 14 goals and 18 assists over a 10-game stretch. However, on the recent road trip against some of the Pacific’s best, including the Phoenix Coyotes, San Jose, Los Angeles Kings and Anaheim Ducks, the line combined for a goal and three assists over a four-game stretch.
"It's been a struggle," Canucks coach John Tortorella said of the line. "We know what they are as people. We know what they are as players. It's been a struggle the past two, three games here. They're going to bounce out of it and they're going to be the players that we know they are."
Who’s hot: Sharks captain Joe Thornton has a goal and five assists over a five-game point streak.
Injury report: For the Sharks, Torres (right-knee surgery) will miss 3-5 months. Burish (lower body) and Burns (upper body) are on injured reserve, but Burns skated Thursday in an orange non-contact jersey. … Canucks forward David Booth (groin) will return to the lineup. Jannik Hansen (right arm) practiced with Vancouver on Wednesday and is eligible to come off long-term injured reserve Sunday. Forwards Dale Weise (leg) and Jordan Schroeder (foot) remain sidelined, but Weise skated for the first time Thursday since his injury.
TV: CSN-CA, SNET-VAN
Last 10: San Jose 4-2-4; Vancouver 6-3-1
Season series: This is the fourth and final matchup between the San Jose Sharks and Vancouver Canucks. Vancouver won the most recent meeting last Thursday in San Jose, 4-2, to snap a streak of nine straight losses to the Sharks in the regular season and Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Big story: With two postseason meetings in the past three seasons, this heated rivalry gathered even more steam this season with San Jose and Vancouver moving to the Pacific Division. Expect another hard-fought game Thursday; the Canucks and Sharks look to relocate their footing in the crowded divisional standings.
San Jose was winless in five games before an overtime defeat of the Calgary Flames on Tuesday. Vancouver, after going 1-2-1 on a four-game road swing in which the lone win came against the Sharks, returns home for a season-long six-game homestand.
Team scope:
Sharks: During the 2012-13 season, San Jose reeled off a perfect 7-0-0 record in January before dropping its next seven games. This season, the Sharks again dominated out of the gate and finished October with a League-leading 22 points. Since then, it’s been a tough road reminiscent of last season. Injuries to wingers Brent Burns, Adam Burish and Raffi Torres, atypical lapses from goaltender Antti Niemi and an inefficient power play resulted in five straight winless games, four of which went past regulation.
The Sharks managed to right the ship in Calgary on Tuesday, though it took overtime to do so. San Jose scored twice in the opening period, one via the power play, but allowed Calgary to even it with two goals in the third. Brad Stuart scored the overtime winner 1:13 into the extra period.
"We've kind of been having a lot of those types of games where we go into overtime, a shootout and we don't come out with the second point," Stuart said. "It's nice to get it. … It'll be a good positive for us moving forward.”
Canucks: To say a team lives and dies by one line is usually a stretch, but it may be the best way to describe the Canucks at the moment. The top line of Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin and Ryan Kesler went on a tear in mid-October, combining for 14 goals and 18 assists over a 10-game stretch. However, on the recent road trip against some of the Pacific’s best, including the Phoenix Coyotes, San Jose, Los Angeles Kings and Anaheim Ducks, the line combined for a goal and three assists over a four-game stretch.
"It's been a struggle," Canucks coach John Tortorella said of the line. "We know what they are as people. We know what they are as players. It's been a struggle the past two, three games here. They're going to bounce out of it and they're going to be the players that we know they are."
Who’s hot: Sharks captain Joe Thornton has a goal and five assists over a five-game point streak.
Injury report: For the Sharks, Torres (right-knee surgery) will miss 3-5 months. Burish (lower body) and Burns (upper body) are on injured reserve, but Burns skated Thursday in an orange non-contact jersey. … Canucks forward David Booth (groin) will return to the lineup. Jannik Hansen (right arm) practiced with Vancouver on Wednesday and is eligible to come off long-term injured reserve Sunday. Forwards Dale Weise (leg) and Jordan Schroeder (foot) remain sidelined, but Weise skated for the first time Thursday since his injury.
canucks played a very good game, they were the better team for almost the whole game.
niemi was the difference, if it wasn't for him canucks would have run away with the
game early on.
too bad how it ended, bieksa took an untimely penalty, in the box when needed the most,
then henrik in ot, extremely hard to defend 4 on 3.
anything can happen with a 1-0 lead, and it did, but the team played well, deserved the win,
just didn't happen, thems the breaks.
san jose 2 canucks 1 in OT
niemi was the difference, if it wasn't for him canucks would have run away with the
game early on.
too bad how it ended, bieksa took an untimely penalty, in the box when needed the most,
then henrik in ot, extremely hard to defend 4 on 3.
anything can happen with a 1-0 lead, and it did, but the team played well, deserved the win,
just didn't happen, thems the breaks.
san jose 2 canucks 1 in OT
I have to say, the better team won. The team that scored the most goals deserved to win. The Canucks sat on a one to nothing lead and San Jose tied it up. A dumb penalty, and the game was won in ot Mostly I admire the Canucks, but not this game.
Actually in this game, #Juan while the Sharks won, the Canucks were the better team for 25 minutes, 15 seconds while the Sharks were the better team for less than a split second.
exactly, whatever the outcome is, one can't delete what happened 'all' game, and you're right, canucks
were by far the better team all game, and a gliche changed the outcome, but that is 'only' the outcome,
not the process.
the better team in this game did 'not' win, they got lucky with one fluke goal, and capitalized on
a penalty to win. simple
if one is blinded by a loss, then one can block out all that went right for the canucks in the process,
and dwell on the outcome.
An excellent coach will always see the process first, and the outcome second, even
if it is a win.
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That sounds more like emotion than reason. An excellent coach will find a way to win. A fluke goal is still a goal. San Jose out shot the Canucks in the third period as well as the overtime.
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I don't make these opinions on emotion, that is for emotional people, which I am not.
you guys here who moan and groan over every loss are the emotional ones, can't seem
to logically figure out how a game actually went along, only the outcome.
A coach can only coach, he can't score goals, or make mistakes on the ice. The final decision is
by players, not coaches, they have no control once they have sent their message, if they think they
do, they better become a player, where they can carry a stick and make plays.
of course a fluke goal is still a goal, but that doesn't delete everything else, fluke goals happen all the
time, one can't coach that out of a game, and one can't blame a coach for it.
it is 'not' black and white, that is part of the fun, the unknown, such as fluke goals. It still
remains, that neimi played lights out thru that game, he must be given credit for the job he did,
just as we have done in the past when luongo or 'whoever' did same, and canucks must be given credit
for their fine play in that game, not 'just' how they lost
san jose didn't have a great game for 98% of that game, canucks made sure of that, they had lots of
hustle and energy, they played hard, did good things, and finally got a puck past neimi.
the process juan, the process. winning and losing isn't the end for a coach, and if it was, he wouldn't
be much of a coach, because he wouldn't have the ability to absorb what happened and move forward in
a strong way, he would be whining and moaning and dwelling on the loss, and when his team wins but plays
poorly he also must concentrate on the process, and not jump up and down just because they won, that
doesn't reep success in the future, they must keep improving, correcting mistakes, going over tapes,
and being aware of what happened, either way, and when all of that is said and done, there is no guarantee,
for any team.
That is quite true, most of the time BUT sometimes both teams have excellent coaches so then another factor besides the ability of the coaches comes into play, often the clock is the deciding factor. THE BEST TEAM DOES NOT ALWAYS WIN.
absolutely jlm, i've watched many very good games, where one knew which ever team was ahead when
the buzzer went would prevail, and that is usually a very entertaining game, either very well played, where both goalies are hot, and players are playing good offense
and defense,
or loosely played, where both teams are a bit 'off' and goals are scored often.
the joy of the sport jlm, if we always knew we were going to win, or knew much of anything about events
throughout the game, the 'point' of watching, and participating in a sport would be lost.
the joys and the dissapointments of a game is what makes sport alive and well.
One big problem, Talloola is a mentality that is prevalent in the sports' world. That sports commentator I used to listen to on C.K.N.W. about 15 years ago had that exact mentality, winning was everything, this was no excuse or reason for losing.....................and of course with a closed mind like that who is going to take anything from a losing game? There is just nothing to gained from it,,,,,,,,,,hee hee hee.
I pay no mind to media and radio commentators, with exception of a few that I respect above all, and the majority of those, 'not all', are past players.
the media often copy others, eg. the latest yakking about 'yakopov' in edmonton, was disgusting after
the first day, as the media grabbed it like the leeches they are and ran with it, NEVER giving any
thought to the player who just turned 20, has a long career ahead of him, is frustrated and made a
mistake by admitting that to the media, wow, they were drooling and couldn't wait to shout to the
world the juicy gossip they had.
of course the NHL team management and coaches are pressured with the necissity to 'win', and of course
those who don't win enough slip down the board in the standings, BUT always some teams will be down
the board and some up, even if 'all' of them were playing well, there would still be only 8 teams in each conference inside the the playoff number at any given time.
if one really understands hockey and many other games, then one can see the game for the truth it
gives, and see each period for the reasons why certain things happened.
but if 'winning and losing' is 'all' one can base their opinion on, one will 'never' truly see the
sport and understand it much at all becaUse dissapointment is 'all' they will be left with, OR
happiness if their team won, while having played a poor game.
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STARS (10-7-2) at CANUCKS (11-7-3)
TV: FS-SW, SNET-P
Last 10: Dallas 6-2-2, Vancouver 5-3-2
Season Series: This is the first of three meetings between the Vancouver Canucks and Dallas Stars. Last season, the Stars split the two games against Vancouver at home and took the lone meeting at Rogers Arena.
Big Story: These teams are going in opposite directions. The Canucks are mired in a three-game winless streak, and the Stars are enjoying a season-best five-game road win streak. Dallas scored seven goals against the Calgary Flames on Thursday. That's the same number of goals Vancouver has scored in its past five games combined.
Team Scope
Stars: With Tampa Bay Lightning forward Steven Stamkos out indefinitely with a broken leg, Jamie Benn and Tyler Seguin made strong cases for a spot on the Canada Olympic team in the 7-3 win against the Flames. Benn scored a goal and five assists in a career-high six-point game, and Seguin scored four goals for a personal best.
"There's obviously so many great players in this League that can get picked," Benn said of his chances for an Olympic invitation. "I just came into camp this year with a focus of being the best player I can be. I'm just trying to get better each and every day."
Dallas' top line benefited from the addition of rookie Valeri Nichushkin, who had two assists and was a plus-4. It marked the first multipoint game for the 18-year-old Russian, whose 6-foot-4 frame adds a physical dimension to a line that could not be stopped in Calgary.
Canucks: Jannik Hansen is back in the Vancouver lineup after missing 10 games with a shoulder injury. He skated at practice Saturday on a line with Ryan Kesler and Chris Higgins, allowing Alexandre Burrows to rejoin Henrik and Daniel Sedin on the top line.
"He's a versatile guy, can play all positions, can play up and down the lineup," Canucks coach John Tortorella said of Hansen on Saturday. "We've missed him. He's a really good player."
The San Jose Sharks visited Vancouver on Thursday smarting from a home loss to the Canucks one week before. Kevin Bieksa opened the scoring in the first period, but Tomas Hertl tied the game with 1:05 left before Dan Boyle's power-play goal in overtime gave the Sharks a 2-1 win. Outscored 10-3 in a three-game losing skid, the Canucks have outshot their opponents 97-85 in that span, leading Kesler to believe that a scoring outburst is coming.
"Our zone time, our time of possession, our chances that we're getting, our shots, I mean, we're that close," Kesler said at practice Saturday. "We're going to break open pretty soon."
Who's hot: Seguin had the first four-goal game for the Stars since Jussi Jokinen on Nov. 16, 2007 against the Colorado Avalanche. Benn was the first Stars player to have six points in a game since Mike Modano on Feb. 1, 1995. Nichushkin has a goal and four assists in his past six games. ... Bieksa has four points in his past four games. Goaltender Roberto Luongo has allowed two or fewer goals in seven of his past eight games.
Injury report: Stars forward Ray Whitney (lower body) is on injured reserve, which forced the Stars to call up Travis Morin this week. … Canucks forwards Jordan Schroeder (ankle) and Dale Weise (lower body) are on IR.
TV: FS-SW, SNET-P
Last 10: Dallas 6-2-2, Vancouver 5-3-2
Season Series: This is the first of three meetings between the Vancouver Canucks and Dallas Stars. Last season, the Stars split the two games against Vancouver at home and took the lone meeting at Rogers Arena.
Big Story: These teams are going in opposite directions. The Canucks are mired in a three-game winless streak, and the Stars are enjoying a season-best five-game road win streak. Dallas scored seven goals against the Calgary Flames on Thursday. That's the same number of goals Vancouver has scored in its past five games combined.
Team Scope
Stars: With Tampa Bay Lightning forward Steven Stamkos out indefinitely with a broken leg, Jamie Benn and Tyler Seguin made strong cases for a spot on the Canada Olympic team in the 7-3 win against the Flames. Benn scored a goal and five assists in a career-high six-point game, and Seguin scored four goals for a personal best.
"There's obviously so many great players in this League that can get picked," Benn said of his chances for an Olympic invitation. "I just came into camp this year with a focus of being the best player I can be. I'm just trying to get better each and every day."
Dallas' top line benefited from the addition of rookie Valeri Nichushkin, who had two assists and was a plus-4. It marked the first multipoint game for the 18-year-old Russian, whose 6-foot-4 frame adds a physical dimension to a line that could not be stopped in Calgary.
Canucks: Jannik Hansen is back in the Vancouver lineup after missing 10 games with a shoulder injury. He skated at practice Saturday on a line with Ryan Kesler and Chris Higgins, allowing Alexandre Burrows to rejoin Henrik and Daniel Sedin on the top line.
"He's a versatile guy, can play all positions, can play up and down the lineup," Canucks coach John Tortorella said of Hansen on Saturday. "We've missed him. He's a really good player."
The San Jose Sharks visited Vancouver on Thursday smarting from a home loss to the Canucks one week before. Kevin Bieksa opened the scoring in the first period, but Tomas Hertl tied the game with 1:05 left before Dan Boyle's power-play goal in overtime gave the Sharks a 2-1 win. Outscored 10-3 in a three-game losing skid, the Canucks have outshot their opponents 97-85 in that span, leading Kesler to believe that a scoring outburst is coming.
"Our zone time, our time of possession, our chances that we're getting, our shots, I mean, we're that close," Kesler said at practice Saturday. "We're going to break open pretty soon."
Who's hot: Seguin had the first four-goal game for the Stars since Jussi Jokinen on Nov. 16, 2007 against the Colorado Avalanche. Benn was the first Stars player to have six points in a game since Mike Modano on Feb. 1, 1995. Nichushkin has a goal and four assists in his past six games. ... Bieksa has four points in his past four games. Goaltender Roberto Luongo has allowed two or fewer goals in seven of his past eight games.
Injury report: Stars forward Ray Whitney (lower body) is on injured reserve, which forced the Stars to call up Travis Morin this week. … Canucks forwards Jordan Schroeder (ankle) and Dale Weise (lower body) are on IR.
We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed, maybe our toes too. -
In hockey anything can change at any time!