No excuse! Time to throw out the Liberals in Ontario

WLDB

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If the people of Ontario vote these idiots in again, even in minority, they deserve exactly what they get.

They always get what they deserve. Thats what democracy does.

I actually like Horevat, but after Bob's antics I'm apprehensive about giving the NDP the keys again. We have to get our house in order and start looking for ways to get people back to work.

That was over 20 years ago. This party isnt really anything like what it was at that time. I dont expect them to win and dont know who I'd vote for but I wouldnt blame Horvath or any other current MPP in her caucus for something that happened more than two decades ago. Id say that about any party too. If the Liberals still exist in 20 years provincially I wouldnt blame them for the current governments mistakes. Hudak on the other hand - he was actually in Harris's government.
 

captain morgan

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Couple of years in Queen's Park and we'll have that puddy tat good and corrupted.

Ok... Here's the fail-safe solution... Totally uncorruptable.

Policies are simple - do nothing and no one gets hurt.

Meet, Mr (or Mrs as per your preference) Post:

 

WLDB

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Here's my point, simply, it's not that he's any better. He just has not pissed me off yet. And I can't find it in myself to to look at it any other way than that.

Personally that wouldnt be enough to get my vote. I'd spoil my ballot before giving it to anyone I didnt actually want to win.

There should be charges laid for this deliberate debacle, boondoggle, whatever you want to call it, just to gain votes in the last election.

That would be a very nice precedent to set and should have been done decades ago. If it had been done a long time ago we could have avoided a lot of problems both provincially and federally. There should be more consequences than simply losing your seat or a place in government.
 

Missplaced

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What is a "boondoggle"?

I don't believe that what the Liberal miscreants did was a boondoggle, if boondoggle means making a mistake that costs people. This premier and his colleagues knew that there would be millions at stake and with that knowledge comes the grounds for criminal charges. That the costs of this maneuver spiraled far beyond what had been anticipated by those responsible is while upsetting, actually beside the point. An elected politician willfully manipulated the finances and operation of the government of Ontario to satisfy the needs of his political party. He's supposed to work for the people of Ontario. The choice he made was to betray the people he swore an oath to serve, to retain power. He and everyone who was involved should be on their way to jail.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Jonny_C

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"As a member of the cabinet under which this happened, I take full responsibility..."

And just how do you do that? Well if you didn't vote against it in Cabinet, you do that by resigning.

Empty words.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Yah, this thread isn't a completely partisan rant at all.:roll:

Only an true idiot would think that changing horses is going to do anything to clean up politics in our ****ed up system.
 

Missplaced

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This "partisan rant" is outgrowth of the awareness of how unimaginably corrupt, inept and untrustworthy the Liberal party has demonstrated itself as being. One could ask, "Where were the opposition parties and what did they do?" Although the focus is on the Liberals, Conservatives and the assorted other parties failed us all as well. A government comprised of elected members who've demonstrated their inability to keep the ruling junta in line is guilty of not doing their jobs just as equally as the scoundrels who did the deed. Canadians are poorly governed from the municipal level right on up to the federal level. There is unfortunately a paucity of individuals prepared to take action. The only group that's demonstrated a preparedness to stand up for their rights are native Canadians, who are regarded by the complacent and apathetic remainder as "rabble-rousers" and are targeted for disdain and contempt. Our aboriginal people have been lied to and disenfranchised longer than anyone else in this country and their actions speak volumes about the lackadaisical and myopic character of the greater majority of Canadians.

As "partisan" as this thread may be, nobody has clean hands in this mess. The mess of which I speak is the spreading rot of disingenuous and contemptuous observer-not-participant attitude of the majority of Canadians. These untrustworthy scoundrels from the PMO's office down to the slimy mismanagement that passes for municipal government is product of the lack of engagement that Canadians seem to think appropriate.
 

DaSleeper

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This "partisan rant" is outgrowth of the awareness of how unimaginably corrupt, inept and untrustworthy the Liberal party has demonstrated itself as being. One could ask, "Where were the opposition parties and what did they do?" Although the focus is on the Liberals, Conservatives and the assorted other parties failed us all as well. A government comprised of elected members who've demonstrated their inability to keep the ruling junta in line is guilty of not doing their jobs just as equally as the scoundrels who did the deed. Canadians are poorly governed from the municipal level right on up to the federal level. There is unfortunately a paucity of individuals prepared to take action. The only group that's demonstrated a preparedness to stand up for their rights are native Canadians, who are regarded by the complacent and apathetic remainder as "rabble-rousers" and are targeted for disdain and contempt. Our aboriginal people have been lied to and disenfranchised longer than anyone else in this country and their actions speak volumes about the lackadaisical and myopic character of the greater majority of Canadians.

As "partisan" as this thread may be, nobody has clean hands in this mess. The mess of which I speak is the spreading rot of disingenuous and contemptuous observer-not-participant attitude of the majority of Canadians. These untrustworthy scoundrels from the PMO's office down to the slimy mismanagement that passes for municipal government is product of the lack of engagement that Canadians seem to think appropriate.

And a rant in a forum accomplishes "What?"
 

Goober

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With all the crap the Liberals have pulled you would think that one of the opposition Parties would have a cakewalk to a majority?