Thinking about Photon.
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Not sure I'm quite on board with that. Humans concept of time is fairly limited as well. Most of what humans do on a day to day basis involves our "animal" mind. We have the luxury of using our prefrontal cortex and, say, graphing time versus distance to calculate speed, for example. But mostly we just use our "automatic" "animal" mind to get by day to day.
Would you rather have your hand dipped in very uncomfortable icy cold water for 2 minutes (Option 1), or would you rather have it dipped in icy cold water for two minutes and then a further minute, but in that last miunute the water slowly warms up (Option 2)? The suprising answer is that most subjects in experiments select Option 2. It's a feature called "duration neglect" in our intuitive self. On a graph, clearly the best option is Option 1, since Option 2 is simply Option 1 plus an extra minute. But our instinct is to prefer Option 2.
Also, it is worth noting that there is an interesting little critter called a mantis shrimp. Humans have three colour receptors in our eyes (green, blue and red). That beats a dog, which has two. Not quite as good as butterfly, which has five. Some species of the mantis shrimp have 16. They perceive a wide visual spectrum in an intricacy we cannot even begin to imagine.
Recommend reading on the mantis shrimp, courtesy of The Oatmeal...
Why the mantis shrimp is my new favorite animal - The Oatmeal
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Very interesting link, thankyou.
They are impressive but I can't help wondering what they taste like?
They are impressive but I can't help wondering what they taste like?
Photon- Electron self identity problems.
The energy of x-ray photon is E=h*f
The energy of radio photon is E=h*f
The energy of electron is E=h*f
What is difference between quantum particles ?
The frequency makes difference.
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Dualism of quantum particle depends on its behavior, on its impulse ( h or h* ).
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The energy of x-ray photon is E=h*f
The energy of radio photon is E=h*f
The energy of electron is E=h*f
What is difference between quantum particles ?
The frequency makes difference.
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Dualism of quantum particle depends on its behavior, on its impulse ( h or h* ).
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Having or not having mass also makes a difference. The dualism of quantum particles does not depend on their behaviour, the dualism IS their behaviour, and the value of h simply defines the scale at which quantum effects appear.
the dualism IS their behaviour, and the value of h and h* =h/2pi
simply defines the different scales at which quantum effects appear.
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" Einstein's theory of special relativity followed a series of perplexing experiments . . .
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Einstein showed that drastically revising the basic concepts of space and time
led to a consistent description of all these perplexing experiments . . . . ."
/ Book: Andrei Sakharov. Quarks and the structure of matter.
By Harry J. Lipkin. page 65.
Copyright 2013 by World Scientific Publishing /
In the others words, according to Einstein
because the space and time different from Newtonian
is possible the phenomenons of SRT.
I give another interpretation:
the phenomenons of SRT are possible because behavior
of quantum of light allow them be appeared.
The behavior of quantum of light is the cause of SRT's phenomenons.
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" Einstein's special theory of relativity is based on two postulates:
One is the relativity of motion, and the second is the constancy
and universality of the speed of light.
Could the first postulate be true and the other false?
If that was not possible, Einstein would not have had to make two
postulates. But I don't think many people realized until recently
that you could have a consistent theory in which you changed only
the second postulate."
/ Lee Smolin, The Trouble With Physics, p. 226. /
It means that speed of light is a constant but not an absolute constant.
The speed of quantum of light is independent ( doesn't depend on outside forces )
Quantum of light can itself change its speed ( by own impulse / spin )
Therefore SRT is theory about behavior of quantum of light
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. . . . . . . . . .
Einstein showed that drastically revising the basic concepts of space and time
led to a consistent description of all these perplexing experiments . . . . ."
/ Book: Andrei Sakharov. Quarks and the structure of matter.
By Harry J. Lipkin. page 65.
Copyright 2013 by World Scientific Publishing /
In the others words, according to Einstein
because the space and time different from Newtonian
is possible the phenomenons of SRT.
I give another interpretation:
the phenomenons of SRT are possible because behavior
of quantum of light allow them be appeared.
The behavior of quantum of light is the cause of SRT's phenomenons.
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" Einstein's special theory of relativity is based on two postulates:
One is the relativity of motion, and the second is the constancy
and universality of the speed of light.
Could the first postulate be true and the other false?
If that was not possible, Einstein would not have had to make two
postulates. But I don't think many people realized until recently
that you could have a consistent theory in which you changed only
the second postulate."
/ Lee Smolin, The Trouble With Physics, p. 226. /
It means that speed of light is a constant but not an absolute constant.
The speed of quantum of light is independent ( doesn't depend on outside forces )
Quantum of light can itself change its speed ( by own impulse / spin )
Therefore SRT is theory about behavior of quantum of light
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The concepts of space and time must be basic in physics.
But these conceptions didn't solve until now .
From the one hand, according to SRT, both space and time relative . . . .
From the other hand, according to SRT, 4D spacetime is an absolute continuum.
And nobody explains what negative 4D really is by ordinary logical language
and therefore . . . . . .
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But these conceptions didn't solve until now .
From the one hand, according to SRT, both space and time relative . . . .
From the other hand, according to SRT, 4D spacetime is an absolute continuum.
And nobody explains what negative 4D really is by ordinary logical language
and therefore . . . . . .
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On September 21, 1908 Hermann Minkowski began his talk at
the 80th Assembly of German Natural Scientists and Physicians
with the now famous introduction:
" The views of space and time which I wish to lay before you have sprung
from the soil of experimental physics, and therein lies their strength.
They are radical. Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself,
are doomed to fade away into mere shadows,
and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality."
Since then the question of the ontological status of this union of space and time
has become the subject of a continued debate.
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Spacetime Society - Minkowski
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the 80th Assembly of German Natural Scientists and Physicians
with the now famous introduction:
" The views of space and time which I wish to lay before you have sprung
from the soil of experimental physics, and therein lies their strength.
They are radical. Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself,
are doomed to fade away into mere shadows,
and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality."
Since then the question of the ontological status of this union of space and time
has become the subject of a continued debate.
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Spacetime Society - Minkowski
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The two postulates of special relativity are bound together.
1. - The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference.
2. - The speed of light c is the same in all inertial frames of reference.
Postulates of special relativity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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My opinion.
1. -
It is correct that:
The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference.
2. -
It is correct that:
The speed of light c is the same in all inertial frames of reference.
3.
It is also correct that such formulation have nothing to do with the essence of SRT.
Why?
All inertial frames of reference ( Earth and another planets of solar system and galaxies )
have gravity-mass. And SRT is theory without gravity-mass.
( About gravity Einstein wrote GRT in 1915)
All inertial frames of reference ( Earth and another planets of solar system and galaxies )
have very low speed and therefore enough to use only Galileo transformation
to explain that the laws of physics are the same in all inertial
frames of reference. But the basis of SRT are Lorentz transformations.
The name of SRT was : “ On the Electrodynamics of moving Bodies.”
Not about Earth and another planets of solar system and galaxies the theory
was talking, but about micro particles like light quanta.
The essence of SRT is explanation the behaviour of light quanta.
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socratus
1. - The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference.
2. - The speed of light c is the same in all inertial frames of reference.
Postulates of special relativity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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My opinion.
1. -
It is correct that:
The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference.
2. -
It is correct that:
The speed of light c is the same in all inertial frames of reference.
3.
It is also correct that such formulation have nothing to do with the essence of SRT.
Why?
All inertial frames of reference ( Earth and another planets of solar system and galaxies )
have gravity-mass. And SRT is theory without gravity-mass.
( About gravity Einstein wrote GRT in 1915)
All inertial frames of reference ( Earth and another planets of solar system and galaxies )
have very low speed and therefore enough to use only Galileo transformation
to explain that the laws of physics are the same in all inertial
frames of reference. But the basis of SRT are Lorentz transformations.
The name of SRT was : “ On the Electrodynamics of moving Bodies.”
Not about Earth and another planets of solar system and galaxies the theory
was talking, but about micro particles like light quanta.
The essence of SRT is explanation the behaviour of light quanta.
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socratus
Maxwell needed a mechanical model to understand interaction between
electro and magnetic fields. Later this mechanical model was thrown out.
Einstein needed different inertial reference frames, clocks, observers, trains, .. . etc
to understand the relations between space and time. All these different inertial
reference frames, clocks, observers, trains, .. . are secondary factors.
They are ‘ garbage for building blocks '
If we throw them out, then we have Lee Smolin's trouble:
" Einstein's special theory of relativity is based on two postulates:
One is the relativity of motion, and the second is the constancy
and universality of the speed of light.
Could the first postulate be true and the other false?
If that was not possible, Einstein would not have had to make two
postulates. But I don't think many people realized until recently
that you could have a consistent theory in which you changed only
the second postulate."
/ Lee Smolin, The Trouble With Physics, p. 226. /
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Israel Socratus
electro and magnetic fields. Later this mechanical model was thrown out.
Einstein needed different inertial reference frames, clocks, observers, trains, .. . etc
to understand the relations between space and time. All these different inertial
reference frames, clocks, observers, trains, .. . are secondary factors.
They are ‘ garbage for building blocks '
If we throw them out, then we have Lee Smolin's trouble:
" Einstein's special theory of relativity is based on two postulates:
One is the relativity of motion, and the second is the constancy
and universality of the speed of light.
Could the first postulate be true and the other false?
If that was not possible, Einstein would not have had to make two
postulates. But I don't think many people realized until recently
that you could have a consistent theory in which you changed only
the second postulate."
/ Lee Smolin, The Trouble With Physics, p. 226. /
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Israel Socratus
Scientistscreate never-before-seen form of matter
Sep 25, Physics/Quantum Physics
http://m.phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html
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awori.achoka:
. . . could light be the original source of life forming molecules....?
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I like your question.
The cloud of rubidium atoms just a few degrees above absolute zero
can be only in superconductivity state . . . . .
then fired single photons into the cloud of atoms .. . . . . .
they are binding together to form molecules. . . .
What kind of molecules can they be?
In my opinion: only helium II . . . .
? ! ? !
Light Quanta can be the original source of life forming molecules
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Inertia and Energy.
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Newtonian conception of *inertia* says nothing about energy.
The idea * Inertia & Energy * was solved byEinstein.
In 1905 Einstein wrote paper:
“ Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content?”
As he realized the answer was:
“ Yes, the inertia depends on its energy E= Mc^2.”
It means, that the inertia (constant speed of photon) depends onE=Mc^2.
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Israel Socratus
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Newtonian conception of *inertia* says nothing about energy.
The idea * Inertia & Energy * was solved byEinstein.
In 1905 Einstein wrote paper:
“ Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content?”
As he realized the answer was:
“ Yes, the inertia depends on its energy E= Mc^2.”
It means, that the inertia (constant speed of photon) depends onE=Mc^2.
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Israel Socratus