Britain destroyed records of colonial crimes

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very bad medicine. It belonged to a demon who devoured all who searched for it”.
Gold Rush and Genocide
“A war of extermination will continue to be waged between the two races until the Indian race becomes extinct.”
- California Governor Peter H. Burnett, January 1851


Peter H. Burnett

“We hope that the Government will render such aid as will enable the citizens of the north to carry on a war of extermination until the last redskin of these tribes has been killed. Extermination is no longer a question of time–the time has arrived, the work has commenced and let the first man who says treaty or peace be regarded as a traitor.”
- Yreka Herald, 1853

In 1840 only about 4,000 Europeans lived in California, only 400 of them were Americans. Now a hoard of 100,000 adventurers, gold-seekers, and murderous thugs descended on California. The authorities were completely overwhelmed. The indians faced a catastrophe of biblical proportions.
Numerous vigilante type paramilitary troops were established whose principal occupation seems to have been to kill Indians and kidnap their children. Groups such as the Humbolt Home Guard, the Eel River Minutemen and the Placer Blades among others terrorized local Indians and caused the premier 19th century historian Hubert Howe Bancroft to describe them as follows.
“The California valley cannot grace her annals with a single Indian war bordering on respectability. It can, however, boast a hundred or two of as brutal butchering, on the part of our honest miners and brave pioneers, as any area of equal extent in our republic……”
The handiwork of these well armed death squads combined with the widespread random killing of Indians by individual miners resulted in the death of 100,000 Indians in the first two years of the gold rush. A staggering loss of two thirds of the population. Nothing in American Indian history is even remotely comparable to this massive orgy of theft and mass murder. Stunned survivors now perhaps numbering fewer than 70,000 teetered near the brink of total annihilation.
The local authorities not only ignored the genocide in their midst, they encouraged it.

California ends to be really silent about this part of the grat gold rush...
 

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Still proving yourself to be stupid I see.
I can't recall ever saying I am a writer and certainly not an expert on fleabag hotels that closed before I moved to the Island.
Seems toober is prone to making things up as he goes along.

After reading much of his contributions (for lack of a better term) here, it comes as no great surprise.
 

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France, that other supposed beacon of great republican democraticness, fairs even worse than the USA. It ranks as only the 28th most democratic nation in the world, just behind Cape Verde. So much for the Revolution.


Republics are very prone to becoming dictatorships. Look at the US. In 1963 there was a coup d'état when Kennedy was shot. Before him a former general was POTUS, After him was Vietnam, a hiatus during the Carter years when America was warring against nobody and Republicans still haven't forgiven him. Then the great military buildup under Alzheimer's Ronny Reagan, war under Bush 1, then a sustained US military presence in the Gulf that broke the promises made to create the Gulf War coalition and caused many of today's Gulf problems, mostly peace under Clinton (whose blow jobs gave laughs to the world and gave Republicans apoplexy - they were busy with page boys), then war ever since started by dubya who should be charged as a war criminal.

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Four of the top five most democratic nations are constitutional monarchies, and so are seven of the top ten. Nine of the top twenty are constitutional monarchies, which is very good when you consider most countries in the world are republics.


Canada can look forward to more misery until we oust conservatives. Canadian conservatives are essentially greedy men who do not learn over time. Canada is centrist. Liberals know that. Every so often we get sick of Liberals who have become too big for their britches and we boot them out. Since the NDP has never been a viable national governing party the conservatives get in by default. Then they assume that because we elected them we must want to change ideologies, as opposed to just shaking up the mess. They start behaving like conservatives, get upset when nobody likes it, circle the wagons and fire inwards. IMO a change is due, but the problem is to what? Justin Waterhouse seems too frivolous. That leaves the NDP. Is the NDP ready to govern federally? I doubt it. There are still too many fringe extreme leftists holding power to let them in. I can see a series of minority governments in our future, which is always better for the people anyway.



Still proving yourself to be stupid I see.
I can't recall ever saying I am a writer and certainly not an expert on fleabag hotels that closed before I moved to the Island.

"Don't recall?" Weasel words. Nobody said you're a hotelier. You said you take boarders into your home. LMAO!
 

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Republics are very prone to becoming dictatorships. Look at the US. In 1963 there was a coup d'état when Kennedy was shot. Before him a former general was POTUS, After him was Vietnam, a hiatus during the Carter years when America was warring against nobody and Republicans still haven't forgiven him. Then the great military buildup under Alzheimer's Ronny Reagan, war under Bush 1, then a sustained US military presence in the Gulf that broke the promises made to create the Gulf War coalition and caused many of today's Gulf problems, mostly peace under Clinton (whose blow jobs gave laughs to the world and gave Republicans apoplexy - they were busy with page boys), then war ever since started by dubya who should be charged as a war criminal.



Canada can look forward to more misery until we oust conservatives. Canadian conservatives are essentially greedy men who do not learn over time. Canada is centrist. Liberals know that. Every so often we get sick of Liberals who have become too big for their britches and we boot them out. Since the NDP has never been a viable national governing party the conservatives get in by default. Then they assume that because we elected them we must want to change ideologies, as opposed to just shaking up the mess. They start behaving like conservatives, get upset when nobody likes it, circle the wagons and fire inwards. IMO a change is due, but the problem is to what? Justin Waterhouse seems too frivolous. That leaves the NDP. Is the NDP ready to govern federally? I doubt it. There are still too many fringe extreme leftists holding power to let them in. I can see a series of minority governments in our future, which is always better for the people anyway.

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George the lessor can not be charged with war crimes. He lacks the intelligence necessary for intent.



You are rich for a change. Canada IS centralist. We finally got rid of the far left and got a centralist government.



Republics are very prone to becoming dictatorships. Look at the US. In 1963 there was a coup d'état when Kennedy was shot. Before him a former general was POTUS, After him was Vietnam, a hiatus during the Carter years when America was warring against nobody and Republicans still haven't forgiven him. Then the great military buildup under Alzheimer's Ronny Reagan, war under Bush 1, then a sustained US military presence in the Gulf that broke the promises made to create the Gulf War coalition and caused many of today's Gulf problems, mostly peace under Clinton (whose blow jobs gave laughs to the world and gave Republicans apoplexy - they were busy with page boys), then war ever since started by dubya who should be charged as a war criminal.



Canada can look forward to more misery until we oust conservatives. Canadian conservatives are essentially greedy men who do not learn over time. Canada is centrist. Liberals know that. Every so often we get sick of Liberals who have become too big for their britches and we boot them out. Since the NDP has never been a viable national governing party the conservatives get in by default. Then they assume that because we elected them we must want to change ideologies, as opposed to just shaking up the mess. They start behaving like conservatives, get upset when nobody likes it, circle the wagons and fire inwards. IMO a change is due, but the problem is to what? Justin Waterhouse seems too frivolous. That leaves the NDP. Is the NDP ready to govern federally? I doubt it. There are still too many fringe extreme leftists holding power to let them in. I can see a series of minority governments in our future, which is always better for the people anyway.

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"Don't recall?" Weasel words. Nobody said you're a hotelier. You said you take boarders into your home. LMAO!

In your mind maybe. Take a comprehension course. I never said we take in boarders. I said there have been many Europeans and others pass through our house in the last few years.
 

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George the lessor can not be charged with war crimes. He lacks the intelligence necessary for intent.

Typical Republican POTUS.

In your mind maybe. Take a comprehension course. I never said we take in boarders. I said there have been many Europeans and others pass through our house in the last few years.

Typical west coast hippy crash pad with BC Bud on the back porch after supper? Do you live in that Hell's Angels village outside Courtenay? Lots of summer guests on Harleys.
 

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Alll-riiiiiight! High school challenge #54. Yo' momma wears army boots. (#55)
LMAO, you're such an awesome joke.

You throw out lame immature insults, but think others insults are childish.

Man you're a hoot. Don't ever leave us!

No wonder you hide from me, you know you'd get torn apart, lol.
 

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Ya, it seems our head of state really didn't give a flying fu ck about the First Nations people.

So what? That was then. There is a good book called "The Royal Navy in the Pacific Northwest" about RN naval operations in the last half of the 19th Century. Natives then were constantly at war with each other and regularly practiced piracy and cannibalism. 19th Century realities and necessities were different from those of today. Authorities then reacted to what faced them.
 

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I've been caught before using the "I heard" card. Now, even if I'm positive I am right, I double check.

Then why is so much of what you write nothing but modern day p/c pap?

Missing the point, eh dummy. No surprise.

You tried to deflect my position that Americans who do not know their history think John Wayne deserves military medals and deflect it with reference to a civil medal of some kind. Totally off topic. I ignored it at fist because I didn't think you could be stupid enough to think you actually answered my post. Looks like I was wrong. Deflection failed, eh?

Proving that most Europeans are ignorant. Or at least the ones you know. What's your point.

You sound like a Yank. Maybe you should live there?


The national ambition there is for the average family tree to have three branches.
 
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I sometimes wonder whether they still teach history in American schools.... Stop taking notice of all that romanticised American history claptrap and start studying real history for once.

America is totally dominated by its media. Its people can no longer differentiate between historical fact and spoon-fed fiction. US education is the lowest in the western world. You're wasting your breath. Trying to teach truth to a guy who thinks it is polite and appropriate to join a Canadian website using a US Marines icon is akin to reading Shakespeare to New Guinea tribesman. He lacks the education and cultural awareness to follow your logic. I considered putting him on ignore at first until I realized how much humour he added to the site. Look at his site name - "Sons of Liberty"? That alone tells you all you need to know. A reasonably educated person's first thought is to think no, it can't be, but it is. I suggest you just let him wallow in his cultural identity. You can't teach him and he won't learn. Maybe teach him to say wop wop wop ...?
 

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I'd rather have Elizabeth II as Head of State than Obama.

You can't compare the two. Their functions are too dissimilar. Obama's office is designed after the office of England's George III in the late 18th Century. While England's monarchy has continued developing in the intervening 200+ years, the US version of that office has lain stagnant. The office is archaic, retaining amongst other things the ability to unilaterally make war on whim in the nuclear age. Alone amongst democracies the POTUS marches on stage to the tune of aggrandizing music to hold court. QE II OTOH is a relatively powerless figurehead. Her duties are advisory when sought, with a reserve capacity to prorogue or forbid that must be exercised with extraordinary care to avoid being totally disempowered. Her power to expend public funds is limited to her household by way of a budget granted by Parliament. Frankly, even comparing her to the American office does her a disservice.

That he lives on a little rock where you have to leave to fart.

Thus spake the intellectual capacity of Qualicum Beach's contribution to Canadian grace and function.

Australia has a low [law] making it COMPULSORY to vote in general elections.

Not a bad idea, IMO.

And your people ate each other.

A perfectly understandable, natural and enjoyable aspect of inter-gender relations. I have heard American women complain of a lacking in American men that way, but it is still an existing art form here in Canada.
 

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The British betrayed the First Peoples of America over and over again. The British used the First Peoples as cannon fodder.

The British have been using every single nation they ever conquered (British Empire) as canon fodder, just ask the Canadians during WWI.

tober, 9 of 10 posts you make is considered demagoguery.
 

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The British betrayed the First Peoples of America over and over again. The British used the First Peoples as cannon fodder.


Actually- there is nothing In British History, or Canadian history, that remotely resembles the California Gold rush genocide. It was a descent into madness only paralleled by Leopold's Congo rubber vine madness .

I have to agree with Black Leaf on this one. Go for it, , Alf of Boulton....