Boys suspended for playing with toy guns at home

petros

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Pain? Getting shot with a non toy type pain? Old school Tonka over the toes type pain? Getting bonked on the noggin by a infants wooden toy block type pain? Some people would melt from water pistols. I saw it on TV.
 

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Yes, since we're talking about a suspension from school, clearly we're talking about it being equivalent to them having shot their classmates with real guns.

 

karrie

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Suspended for fire arms which they are not. Are they really firearms as claimed Karrie?

Principal said they were suspended for shooting pellet guns at classmates waiting at a bus stop.... not 'firearms'.
 

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The boys are suspended from school for "possession, handling and use of a firearm" and may be expelled the remainder of the year.
Larkspur Middle School principal Matthew Delaney said an investigation found the "children were firing pellet guns at each other, and at people near the bus stop."
 

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I love it. I think every kid that ever shows any kind of "violent tendency" should be expelled "for the safety of the children."
Don't you mean the safety of the CHILD. I can't imagine there are very many kids who haven't played cops and robber or cowboy and Indians. I remember a neighbors little boy about 3 or 4 years old at the time. His mother would not buy him a toy gun, so he used his hands pointed like a gun and shouted " bang bang".

I might add that in my experience teachers and nurses have a whole lot of book learning and very little common sense.
 

petros

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A$s






Hole in the ground



See the difference?
 

karrie

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The boys are suspended from school for "possession, handling and use of a firearm" and may be expelled the remainder of the year.
Larkspur Middle School principal Matthew Delaney said an investigation found the "children were firing pellet guns at each other, and at people near the bus stop."

The firearms bit is a quote from the parents, who have also called the suspension an expulsion, and shooting fellow students at a bus stop 'playing with toys in their own backyard'. This is my point about the article being slanted for maximum outrage. It wasn't about what the police and the school actually found, said and did, it's about what a couple butthurt parents said was said. And they've gotten it wrong, covered for their little darlings, in a couple funny ways.
 

petros

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TOYS not firearms. Get it? If they threw Tonkas they are still toys. It might be a little annoying but it still toys.
 

karrie

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TOYS not firearms. Get it? If they threw Tonkas they are still toys. It might be a little annoying but it still toys.


If a 12 year old bashes a fellow student in the head with a Tonka truck, they'd still get suspended. They're not at the 'woops' age.
 

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I can easily demonstrate the hypocrisy of all this and demonstrate where the school has jurisdiction and where they don't. Wait until your kid gets beaten up while walking to/from school and then try to sue the school. They will very quickly tell you the kids are not under their supervision or care until they get on the school grounds and are no longer under their supervision or care once they leave. Seriously, this is an example of people letting the school overstep it's authority. If they are not legally liable for the injuries they obviously don't have jurisdiction. You can't have your cake and eat it too
 

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I can easily demonstrate the hypocrisy of all this and demonstrate where the school has jurisdiction and where they don't. Wait until your kid gets beaten up while walking to/from school and then try to sue the school. They will very quickly tell you the kids are not under their supervision or care until they get on the school grounds and are no longer under their supervision or care once they leave. Seriously, this is an example of people letting the school overstep it's authority.


There's a difference between being financially liable for the behaviours of people, and being able to suspend them for beating your kid up.

The idiocy of this piece is that it's sensationalizing it based on the presence of toy guns and trying to make it into something unique when it's not.

These kids caused physical injury to classmates at a bus stop. They are not unique in being suspended for it.
 

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There's a difference between being financially liable for the behaviours of people, and being able to suspend them for beating your kid up.

The idiocy of this piece is that it's sensationalizing it based on the presence of toy guns and trying to make it into something unique when it's not.

These kids caused physical injury to classmates at a bus stop. They are not unique in being suspended for it.
You're right, there is a difference. In one instance the school will follow the law regarding their jurisdiction over our children to avoid paying a settlement and in the other instance they will ignore the law and claim jurisdiction beyond their legal boundaries. Parents like you will gladly allow the second because it seems right they should be punished but you will quickly cry foul when you are turned away by a court in your lawsuit.

Now I am not saying these kids should be taught you don't shoot people who aren't in on this game and should probably get their toys taken away and grounded or even a trip out to the woodshed (I'm old school like that). I am just saying it is not within the legal scope of the school to do it.
 

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Khalid Caraballo and his friend Aiden were playing with airsoft "zombie hunter" guns in Khalid's yard, when a neighbour called 911, local station WAVY-TV reports. The toy guns shoot rubber pellets.


uh huh. The bus stop and all the other students are in their backyard. Tell you what, if you're buying that, I've got a great investment opportunity for you. But, if the best you can come up with to refute the police and principals' findings, is insults, carry on with your day petros, you're hardly worth my time.

If it was reported by the media, it must be the whole truth.

It was a horridly slanted article. Goob's link had a lot of great extra info.

I am just saying it is not within the legal scope of the school to do it.

If the parents took it up with the school board in that manner, I'd have virtually no argument for their challenge (every parent has the right to try to get their kids educated), and much less disdain, than their attempt to pretend it didn't happen at all, that they were just misunderstood kids playing with one another in their backyard.
 

petros

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uh huh. The bus stop and all the other students are in their backyard. Tell you what, if you're buying that, I've got a great investment opportunity for you. But, if the best you can come up with to refute the police and principals' findings, is insults, carry on with your day petros, you're hardly worth my time..
How much?

The boys are suspended from school for "possession, handling and use of a firearm" and may be expelled the remainder of the year.

Toys are now firearms?