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Tecumsehsbones

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... from the British.

Never trust the Brits when it comes to electrical. As anyone who has ever owned a Triumph can attest.

Q: Why do Brits drink their beer warm? A: Because Triumph makes refrigerators.

Q: Who don't Brits make computers? A: Because they couldn't figure out a way to make them leak oil.
 

hunboldt

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No, I'm not.



Many British citizens who were supposedly Americans were NOT Americans. They were using FORGED papers. In fact, this is the case in the overwhelming majority of cases of supposed "Americans" being press-ganged into the Royal Navy. The vast majority were Brits trying to pass themselves off as Yanks.

And even those Brits who HAD become American citizens were still targeted for impressment into the Royal Navy because the British did NOT recognise naturalised American status, even if they had possession of citizenship certificates. The criterion was: "Once an Englishman, always an Englishman."

Though the American government repeatedly protested the practice, British Foreign Secretary Lord Harrowby contemptuously wrote in 1804, "The pretention advanced by Mr. [Secretary of State James] Madison that the American flag should protect every individual on board of a merchant ship is too extravagent to require any serious refutation."



The only difference between being a British "subject" and a British "citizen" is a word. Other than that there is no difference between the two. A "subject" doesn't automatically get less rights than a "citizen".

British "subjects" in the 18th and 19th centuries were the freest people on Earth, and were much freer than their French "citizen" neighbours over the Channel.

And what exactly BL, did your run off Irish or your burnt out clearances Scot get in return for :

And even those Brits who HAD become American citizens were still targeted for impressment into the Royal Navy because the British did NOT recognise naturalised American status, even if they had possession of citizenship certificates. The criterion was: "Once an Englishman, always an Englishman."

What Britain had was early unfettered capitalism, which made sense in its early days, but the lack of schools and city services caught up with them . By the 1850's the newly resurgent Germans were out producing the Brits because they had:
GASP!! universal education
GASP!! city planning

GASP!! Sewers that worked .
 

EagleSmack

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When the peace treaty between the two nations was signed in Ghent it was the British who got what they wanted: the status quo, the way things were before the war started. Not a single American aim was even discussed, so it seems as though the authorities sided with the British. For this reason, it can be said that the British won the War of 1812.

We won... you lost. The pain still resonates deep it seems.
 

Zipperfish

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We won... you lost. The pain still resonates deep it seems.

If you won, I'd live in a state not a province. True, the Brits helped a little bit, which is what made it not just an azz-kicking, but a royal azz-kicking. :lol:

(Edit: seriously you can't even say azz on here. They say that on prime time TV. Who's the retard who programmed this thing. (I'm interested to find out if I can say retard)).
 

EagleSmack

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If you won, I'd live in a state not a province. True, the Brits helped a little bit, which is what made it not just an ***-kicking, but a royal ***-kicking. :lol:

And I'd live in a province not a state if the Brits won if you want to play that game.

So it was an azz kicking by the fledgling US.

The pain obviously resonates throughout Britain to this day.

What do you mean "the Brits helped a little bit" ! LMAO
 

Zipperfish

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And I'd live in a province not a state if the Brits won if you want to play that game.

So it was an azz kicking by the fledgling US.

The pain obviously resonates throughout Britain to this day.

What do you mean "the Brits helped a little bit" ! LMAO

Yeah the Brits helped a bit. So did the Indians. You guys ran so fast out of here you forgot to take your culture.

We even got a song about it:

And the White House burned, burned, burned,
And we’re the one’s that did it!
It burned, burned, burned,
While the president ran and cried.
It burned, burned, burned,
And things were very historical.
And the Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies
Waa waa waah!
In the War of 1812!
 

EagleSmack

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Oh no... you're not one of those who REALLY think Canadians burned the White House are you?

Simple question. Can you give me the route Canadians took to Washington DC?

And things were very historical?! lmao... those are words in an actual song?
 

Zipperfish

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Oh no... you're not one of those who REALLY think Canadians burned the White House are you?

Simple question. Can you give me the route Canadians took to Washington DC?

I'm just quoting the song. We all sit around and sing it on Saturday nights along with other Canadian classics like Barrett's Privateers, Home for a Rest, the Good Ol Hockey Game and I Wish They All Could Be Manitoba Girls.
 

EagleSmack

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I'm just quoting the song. We all sit around and sing it on Saturday nights along with other Canadian classics like Barrett's Privateers, Home for a Rest, the Good Ol Hockey Game and I Wish They All Could Be Manitoba Girls.

I have no doubt!

Still working on the route? Get Historical would you!
 

petros

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Some Cockburn guy did it. Man I don't like the sound of that. Cockburn....

Do you get Cockburn from wearing Bermuda shorts?
 

EagleSmack

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Yes British Adm. Cockburn was there as an adviser to British Gen. Ross. He did not end up being pickled in rum like Ross did though.
 

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I have no doubt!

Still working on the route? Get Historical would you!

And the Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies

And some of 'em are still crying. hey Eagle Smack--we smacked your eagle.

AS for burning down the Whitehouse, it was actually worse than that--they also defiled it. My great-great-great-great grandfather was on one of the hovercrafts that landed, and left a big steaming double-coiler right in the middle of the Oval Office.
 

EagleSmack

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And some of 'em are still crying. hey Eagle Smack--we smacked your eagle.

AS for burning down the Whitehouse, it was actually worse than that--they also defiled it. My great-great-great-great grandfather was on one of the hovercrafts that landed, and left a big steaming double-coiler right in the middle of the Oval Office.

Well when all facts abandon you Zip... there's always idiocy.

Always a pleasure!
 

hunboldt

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Oh no... you're not one of those who REALLY think Canadians burned the White House are you?

Simple question. Can you give me the route Canadians took to Washington DC?

And things were very historical?! lmao... those are words in an actual song?


Actually, it was French 'galvanised Royal Marines" form the POW camps. The British were scraping the bottom of the Barrel for manpower.
Meanwhile the US militia system had finally churned out thousands of light horse infantry. The much maligned George Prevost had it 'bang on'.

Hate to say it, but if the war had lasted into the spring of 1815- we would be American. But then the Americans would be a Kinder., gentler, wiser state..:lol:

Prob. permanently Democrats... Right E- Smack?

And some of 'em are still crying. hey Eagle Smack--we smacked your eagle.

AS for burning down the Whitehouse, it was actually worse than that--they also defiled it. My great-great-great-great grandfather was on one of the hovercrafts that landed, and left a big steaming double-coiler right in the middle of the Oval Office.

yahoo, BUT gwb WASN'T that BAD..