The Syria Thread: Everything you wanted to know or say about it

Merge the Syria Threads

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B00Mer

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Cruz just regurgitated Grayson............

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvY8b4qZabY

At least he is making some very strong points.. I'm in 100% in agreement with Grayson..

Sen. Ted Cruz with Sean Hannity on Syria, Defunding Obamacare, and More - YouTube

 
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Hmm... you know, something just dawned on me that's probably going to cause of lot you to say, "Duh, so you finally figured that out", but, it's this:

Ever noticed how every time Uncle Sam et al get involved in a situation where the root is civil war, potential or otherwise, all it does is stalemate or blow up in their face?

Uncle Sam and allies have always won wars when it was one soviergn power against another, but not civil wars.

Korea was a civil war that stalemated. Cuba was a civil war. Vietnam was a civil war. Nicaragua was a civil war.

Yugoslavia was a confederation of dispirit states held in check against civil war by Tito, and as soon as he was gone, it fell into civil war. At the end of the day, how did it benefit anyone for NATO to get inbetween post-Tito breakup-republics slugging it out?

Everyone knew Saddam was a bastard partly because it was the only way to stop his citizens from collapsing into civil war, and I'm pretty-sure that's why Bush Sr. was okay about not taking him out entirely.

When Bush Jr. took out Saddam, Iraq collapsed into civil war, whereupon US forces found themselves caught inbetween getting IED'd by weapons that sectarians actually wanted to use against each other.

Syria is in civil war, therefore, by virtue of what philosophers of logic call Inductive Reasoning, I'm going to bet that if Uncle Sam meddles in any of the conventional ways, it will blow up in his face.

I think if powers really want to meddle in civil wars, they're going to have to figure out and/or invent some method/technique totally new and unthought of before.

You might be on to sumpun! -:)
 

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Come one and all to Syria! Al Queda... Hezzbolah...Sunni... Shi'ite...islamic radicals... seculars... Chechens... Come one and all and join the great Jihad against each other!

Choose a side and come! War and death await all!

Join the meat grinder!

Where the smell of cordite, fire, death, and nerve gas fills the air!

No shortage of RPG's amd AK ammo!

Feel the pop of your weapon and the whip crack sound of his rounds snapping over your head! Join in the slaughter of all!

Come to Syria... where the streets actually DO flow red with blood!
 

PoliticalNick

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A person with a room temp. I.Q. realizes it's not the number of chemical weapons you have, but the number you use without provocation! -:)

America has used more chemical agents in attacks than every other country in the world combined. Now they want to make it so they are the only ones with access to these weapons. I for one don't think that's right. Maybe you can't see the truth. Maybe you ignore it by choice. Fact is I don't want any one country being the only one to have nuclear/chemical/biological arsenal. I don't see the US as some benevolent entity that will bring peace and prosperity to everyone on our planet. I see them as imperialistic, greedy and out for global domination at the expense of other populations.
 

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You might be on to sumpun! -:)

Well, Afghanistan fell into a state of civil war without Taliban, and a f*ck of a lot of good it did for Canada to be there!

If there's a pattern, it might be that the more bastardly the existing regime, the more likely the place is to collapse into civil war without it.
 

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I do find it funny that the ONLY concern about Syria... and the ONLY concern is that the US President threatened to attack.

Before then the two year civil war gathered very little attention in here.
 

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Well, Afghanistan fell into a state of civil war without Taliban, and a f*ck of a lot of good it did for Canada to be there!

If there's a pattern, it might be that the more bastardly the existing regime, the more likely the place is to collapse into civil war without it.

Ayyyuhh...
The Assad's, pappy and pup have had over forty years of autocratic rule to make Syria into paradise...

ahh, the good life, without 'voter interference'. We should be so lucky, Omicron...
 

Omicron

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What!! Where?

He's probably thinking Agent Orange, where the intended target was trees.

But the fact that it had bad side-effects on American soldiers underscores exactly why chemical weapons were banned in the first place... they can hurt you as much as the enemy. (And it wasn't really a "ban" per se... it was more an "I won't if you won't" agreement, which is how most International Law works.)

What it means is, if you're a Syrian rebel, always attack from upwind.
 

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I do find it funny that the ONLY concern about Syria... and the ONLY concern is that the US President threatened to attack.

Before then the two year civil war gathered very little attention in here.


...and so should it be.. There are plenty of Civil wars going on in the world that we are not involved in.. we should not be involved..

Maybe we should go to Columbia and fight the FARQ?? It's closer to home and has claimed 220,000-600,000 lives to date.

List of ongoing military conflicts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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...and so should it be.. There are plenty of Civil wars going on in the world that we are not involved in.. we should not be involved..

Maybe we should go to Columbia and fight the FARQ?? It's closer to home and has claimed 220,000-600,000 lives to date.

List of ongoing military conflicts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So its cool then?

Keep in mind I do not want the US attacking Syria. But I find it rather funny that the only outrage regarding Syria is that the US might launch an ineffectual cruise missile strike.

He's probably thinking Agent Orange, where the intended target was trees.

Ahhhh... so he's embellishing because it sounds better... even though hes full of shia

But the fact that it had bad side-effects on American soldiers underscores exactly why chemical weapons were banned in the first place...

Chemical weapons were banned because of agent orange use in Vietnam? lol

they can hurt you as much as the enemy. .

Not if you use them right.
 

B00Mer

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So its cool then?

Keep in mind I do not want the US attacking Syria. But I find it rather funny that the only outrage regarding Syria is that the US might launch an ineffectual cruise missile strike.

Sure launch the Cruise Missile attack, and when they counter attack the USA in terrorist attacks, then what, more cruise missiles, maybe boots on the ground.. the USA needs to stop being the world police..

You didn't read China's posts where he points out that a great percentage of US debt is held by Russia and China, they already stated they would play economic havoc on the US economy..

Is it worth another war, is it worth 10 more years of economic recession? Is it worth the billion dollars in cruise missiles?? Are you willing to give up your comfortable lifestyle for this attack, it may lead to that??

It is tragic what happen over there, and the world should condemn this Chemical Attack.. other than that, Syrian people are saying they don't want the USA to intervene, and 90% of the US public say no..
 

Omicron

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Ayyyuhh...
The Assad's, pappy and pup have had over forty years of autocratic rule to make Syria into paradise...

ahh, the good life, without 'voter interference'. We should be so lucky, Omicron...

I didn't mean that life under dicatators using tyrany to prevent civil wars would be nice... I just meant that if you've got a situation with a tyrant in change, it might be because that's the only way to prevent civil war in order to keep the economy going.

One place I'd expect a lot of civil wars would be in the 'stanis... all those little republics that used to be under Soviet control.

The borders are in no way reflective of the ethnic constituents. In fact, Stalin deliberatly drew the borders that way in order to deliberatly lump together ethnic groups who hated each other, in order to weaken the probablility of the republic uniting within to rise up against Soviet control, which means, I'd bet after they got independance from the Soviets, they either collapsed into civil war (which we haven't heard much about because they don't affect us) or they ended up with a ruler as strict as the Soviets in order to prevent civil war.
 

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Chemical weapons were banned because of agent orange use in Vietnam? lol

Huh? No! Nations agreed to not use them after they saw how the wind could change direction and mustard-gas could blow back on Germans.

Not if you use them right.

Yeah... like launch them upwind of the rebels, and hope they are not upwind of your president's palace.

Come one and all to Syria! Al Queda... Hezzbolah...Sunni... Shi'ite...islamic radicals... seculars... Chechens... Come one and all and join the great Jihad against each other!

Choose a side and come! War and death await all!

Join the meat grinder!

Where the smell of cordite, fire, death, and nerve gas fills the air!

No shortage of RPG's amd AK ammo!

Feel the pop of your weapon and the whip crack sound of his rounds snapping over your head! Join in the slaughter of all!

Come to Syria... where the streets actually DO flow red with blood!

There must be bookies out there specilizing in taking odds on civil wars.

It doesn't have to be bets on who will win... it would be more stuff like, "Odds that the US will get involved", or "Odds the rebels will gain 10 sq-km territory by the end of the week", etc.

Because their lifeblood is based on knowing how to figure odds, bookies specializing in battle-odds could, theoretically, be one of the best sources of strategic planning.
 

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Sure launch the Cruise Missile attack, and when they counter attack the USA in terrorist attacks, then what, more cruise missiles, maybe boots on the ground.. the USA needs to stop being the world police..

You didn't read China's posts where he points out that a great percentage of US debt is held by Russia and China, they already stated they would play economic havoc on the US economy..

Is it worth another war, is it worth 10 more years of economic recession? Is it worth the billion dollars in cruise missiles?? Are you willing to give up your comfortable lifestyle for this attack, it may lead to that??

It is tragic what happen over there, and the world should condemn this Chemical Attack.. other than that, Syrian people are saying they don't want the USA to intervene, and 90% of the US public say no..

Clearly you did not read my post.

Huh? No! Nations agreed to not use them after they saw how the wind could change direction and mustard-gas could blow back on Germans.

WHAT?!?!



Yeah... like launch them upwind of the rebels, and hope they are not upwind of your president's palace.

We have rebels? The president has a palace?

good grief