no need to move it, just blow it all up at once so no one can use them...that would solve everything for ever no?
The Syria Thread: Everything you wanted to know or say about it
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man came up to me and said
"I'd like to change your mind
By hitting with a rock," he said,
"Though I am not unkind" -"Whistling In the Dark"
I've got worse...
You certainly have. Steadily.man came up to me and said
"I'd like to change your mind
By hitting with a rock," he said,
"Though I am not unkind" -"Whistling In the Dark"
I've got worse...
China and Russia hold 1.440 Trillion Dollars in U.S. Debt, between them they account for over 25% of foreign holders of Treasuries…
The question isn’t who is going to buy when the Taper begins on the 15th of Sept, the question is, who is going to start the Selling Frenzy that buries us…
What people don’t understand is that all the Chinese and Russian’s have to do is begin selling Treasuries, driving the yield up, and this will cause Japan and many under capitalized banks around the world to begin selling for liquidity, that’s when the run on the dollar begins…
Once that begins in earnest, the game is over, the gig is up…
For people who don’t believe that last Thursday’s jump in the 10 yr Treasury Yield to over 3.01% was shot across our bow, then you just aren’t paying attention…
You want Doom out of this war, this is your doom!!!
Because within a month of a massive strike on Syria, the U.S. Dollar will be toast…
Nutty Yahoo in Israel blows gasket eats puppy And just like that the surrender your gas deal has already been scuttled,
toast but very dark almost ashes
this planet is crazy
The question isn’t who is going to buy when the Taper begins on the 15th of Sept, the question is, who is going to start the Selling Frenzy that buries us…
What people don’t understand is that all the Chinese and Russian’s have to do is begin selling Treasuries, driving the yield up, and this will cause Japan and many under capitalized banks around the world to begin selling for liquidity, that’s when the run on the dollar begins…
Once that begins in earnest, the game is over, the gig is up…
For people who don’t believe that last Thursday’s jump in the 10 yr Treasury Yield to over 3.01% was shot across our bow, then you just aren’t paying attention…
You want Doom out of this war, this is your doom!!!
Because within a month of a massive strike on Syria, the U.S. Dollar will be toast…
Nutty Yahoo in Israel blows gasket eats puppy And just like that the surrender your gas deal has already been scuttled,
toast but very dark almost ashes
this planet is crazy
Yup, there goes the Fireworks show, and I just purchased a new HD TV to watch the show..
Unproven, is who used Chemical Weapons, everyone knows that Syria and Iraq have WMD's, the USA, Russia, France, The UK and China sold it to them...
Why do you think the US was so certain that Iraq has WMD's, they sold it to them to fight against Iran with. Saddam, got smart and gave them to any enemy state.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons' | Mail Online
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Right on the nail China, the US dollar will be like the Mexican Peso..
Canada will be building a fence on its southern border to keep all the Yankees and T Bones out..
When Libya gave up its WMD that's when the West invaded. If Syria gives up any such weaponry watch for an invasion - of course, there will first be some false flag such as a staged "terrorist attack" from Assad.
Ayyyuhhh.....
When your kin finally come back to get you can I hitch a ride home, DB? Just loop left at Sirius and drop me at the 'green planet''
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Wow this thread still going about Syria and the Chemical Attack, that happened a long time ago.
....oh sorry that was Benghazi. :roll:
....oh sorry that was Benghazi. :roll:
So do we congratulate Kerry and Obummer for putting Assad in a corner as he agrees with Russia's proposal.....?
Let’s face some hard facts about the vicious conflict in Syria.
If the US directly attacks Syria, the real cause will not be the recent chemical attacks. What are 300 or so dead in a 2-year old war fuelled by the western powers that has so far killed over 100,000?
Chemical weapons are horrible. So are bullets, shells, bombs, cluster bombs, fuel-air explosive, white phosphorus, and napalm. All wars are crime writ large.
We don’t yet know if the recent chemical massacre in Damascus was a real chemical attack using Sarin nerve gas, a rebel provocation, an industrial accident, or an attack by rogue Syrian army units? After Iraq, we can’t trust western intelligence and so-called evidence.
This is not even the main issue at hand though it makes an excellent pretext for outside powers to intervene.
The Syrian conflict is a proxy war being waged against Iran by the United States, conservative Arab oil producers, and three former Mideast colonial powers, Britain, France and Turkey who are seeking to restore their domination in the region. Israel, hoping to isolate Hezbollah and cement its annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights, cheers from the sidelines. Syria and Hezbollah are Iran’s only Arab friends.
The US and allies ignited the anti-Assad uprising two years ago, using the underground Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and imported jihadis. But Assad’s forces, with some limited help from Russia, Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah, held on and are now beating the US-backed rebels.
As a result, the Obama administration is now leaning towards direct US military intervention to stave off defeat of its proxies by neutralizing Assad’s air force, armor and artillery. As for Syria’s chemical weapons, they were developed as a counter to Israel large nuclear and chemical arsenal.
Back in 1990, I was in Baghdad covering the lead-up to the first US war against Iraq. I found four British scientific technicians who told me – and showed documents – that they had been sent by Her Majesty’s government to help Iraq’s biowarfare programs.
The four scientists were stationed at Salman Pak laboratories to manufacture four types of germ weapons for Iraq for use against Iran, including anthrax and q-fever. The feeder stocks for the germ weapons came from a US lab in Maryland; their export was ok’d by Washington. I repeatedly reported on this grim discovery.
During the long, bloody Iran-Iraq War, the US, Britain, Italy and Germany exported chemical weapons plants and raw material to Iraq that produced Sarin nerve gas and burning mustard gas. Many thousands of Iranian soldiers were killed, horribly burned or blinded by these western-supplied weapons.
So a little less western moral outrage, please, particularly from the Brits whose own sainted Winston Churchill authorized the use of poison gas against rebellious Iraqi and Afghan tribesmen.
Let’s also recall how North Vietnam was drenched with the toxic Agent Orange, how the resisting Iraq city of Falluja was showered by white phosphorous, how Iraq was permanently contaminated by radioactive depleted uranium. These foul weapons also kill babies.
At least many Americans seem to have learned caution from the campaign of neocon lies that led them into the 2003 Iraq invasion, one of the biggest disasters and shames in US history. Even some usually bellicose Republicans are urging the Nobel Peace prize winner in the White House and his entourage of bloodthirsty liberals to slow his rush to war and consult Congress.
More tellingly, Gen. Colin Powell, who disgraced himself before the world by parroting the Bush administration’s lies about Iraq now also urges caution over Syria.
Powell is right. The US has lost its last two “crusades” in Afghanistan and Iraq. The US has no strategic interests in Syria beyond an obsession to overthrow Iran’s disobedient government.
Washington’s Syrian misadventure threatens to put the US on a very perilous collision course with Russia, Syria’s close ally. So far, Russia has sought a diplomatic solution, but it’s most unwise to push tough Vladimir Putin too hard. Syria is as close to Russia as northern Mexico is to the United States.
Courting even the remote threat of a possible nuclear confrontation with Russia just to overthrow President Assad, a former US ally, is the height of irresponsibility.
ANOTHER JOLLY LITTLE WAR « Eric Margolis
Let’s face some hard facts about the vicious conflict in Syria.
If the US directly attacks Syria, the real cause will not be the recent chemical attacks. What are 300 or so dead in a 2-year old war fuelled by the western powers that has so far killed over 100,000?
Chemical weapons are horrible. So are bullets, shells, bombs, cluster bombs, fuel-air explosive, white phosphorus, and napalm. All wars are crime writ large.
We don’t yet know if the recent chemical massacre in Damascus was a real chemical attack using Sarin nerve gas, a rebel provocation, an industrial accident, or an attack by rogue Syrian army units? After Iraq, we can’t trust western intelligence and so-called evidence.
This is not even the main issue at hand though it makes an excellent pretext for outside powers to intervene.
The Syrian conflict is a proxy war being waged against Iran by the United States, conservative Arab oil producers, and three former Mideast colonial powers, Britain, France and Turkey who are seeking to restore their domination in the region. Israel, hoping to isolate Hezbollah and cement its annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights, cheers from the sidelines. Syria and Hezbollah are Iran’s only Arab friends.
The US and allies ignited the anti-Assad uprising two years ago, using the underground Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and imported jihadis. But Assad’s forces, with some limited help from Russia, Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah, held on and are now beating the US-backed rebels.
As a result, the Obama administration is now leaning towards direct US military intervention to stave off defeat of its proxies by neutralizing Assad’s air force, armor and artillery. As for Syria’s chemical weapons, they were developed as a counter to Israel large nuclear and chemical arsenal.
Back in 1990, I was in Baghdad covering the lead-up to the first US war against Iraq. I found four British scientific technicians who told me – and showed documents – that they had been sent by Her Majesty’s government to help Iraq’s biowarfare programs.
The four scientists were stationed at Salman Pak laboratories to manufacture four types of germ weapons for Iraq for use against Iran, including anthrax and q-fever. The feeder stocks for the germ weapons came from a US lab in Maryland; their export was ok’d by Washington. I repeatedly reported on this grim discovery.
During the long, bloody Iran-Iraq War, the US, Britain, Italy and Germany exported chemical weapons plants and raw material to Iraq that produced Sarin nerve gas and burning mustard gas. Many thousands of Iranian soldiers were killed, horribly burned or blinded by these western-supplied weapons.
So a little less western moral outrage, please, particularly from the Brits whose own sainted Winston Churchill authorized the use of poison gas against rebellious Iraqi and Afghan tribesmen.
Let’s also recall how North Vietnam was drenched with the toxic Agent Orange, how the resisting Iraq city of Falluja was showered by white phosphorous, how Iraq was permanently contaminated by radioactive depleted uranium. These foul weapons also kill babies.
At least many Americans seem to have learned caution from the campaign of neocon lies that led them into the 2003 Iraq invasion, one of the biggest disasters and shames in US history. Even some usually bellicose Republicans are urging the Nobel Peace prize winner in the White House and his entourage of bloodthirsty liberals to slow his rush to war and consult Congress.
More tellingly, Gen. Colin Powell, who disgraced himself before the world by parroting the Bush administration’s lies about Iraq now also urges caution over Syria.
Powell is right. The US has lost its last two “crusades” in Afghanistan and Iraq. The US has no strategic interests in Syria beyond an obsession to overthrow Iran’s disobedient government.
Washington’s Syrian misadventure threatens to put the US on a very perilous collision course with Russia, Syria’s close ally. So far, Russia has sought a diplomatic solution, but it’s most unwise to push tough Vladimir Putin too hard. Syria is as close to Russia as northern Mexico is to the United States.
Courting even the remote threat of a possible nuclear confrontation with Russia just to overthrow President Assad, a former US ally, is the height of irresponsibility.
ANOTHER JOLLY LITTLE WAR « Eric Margolis
Ayyyuh...
The Assad's have a 'bit of a reputation', to say the least.
Old man Assad had no difficulty levelling the city of Hama with artillery in 1982. did you ever wonder about the Political machine which ensues that his son would get , uhhhhhh, 'elected'?
You think you got it bad. I just bought a lot of stock in war profiteers!
It's OK, we have Timmies here now.
Why I’ll vote no on Syria strike
By Ted Cruz, Published: September 9
Ted Cruz, a Republican, represents Texas in the Senate, where he is a member of the Armed Services Committee.
No decision by an elected official is more serious than whether to send our armed forces into conflict. President Obama was right to seek Congress’s authorization to use military force against Syria. But having carefully considered the president’s substantive arguments, I am compelled to vote against the requested authorization.
Ted Cruz: Why I’ll vote no on Syria strike - The Washington Post
Yep, he's Canadian, all right.
David Axelrod credits Obama’s ‘credible’ (but unbelievably small) threat for possible Syria deal
If POTUS hadn't threatened credible military response, does anyone believe Russia and Syria would be coming forward now? No time to falter.
David Axelrod credits Obama’s ‘credible’ (but unbelievably small) threat for possible Syria deal | Twitchy
If POTUS hadn't threatened credible military response, does anyone believe Russia and Syria would be coming forward now? No time to falter.
David Axelrod credits Obama’s ‘credible’ (but unbelievably small) threat for possible Syria deal | Twitchy